Help My best friend told me she was gonna use a non-method.

[sinnrr-sistrr]

My closest friend told me she would ctb "soon" (no idea when that would be) and that she was gonna do it by taking a bunch of xanax and alcohol. I've seen that it is considered a "non-method" on here, and I'm torn apart on whether or not I should tell her.

On one hand, it's her choice, and she should be able to make an informed decision that wouldn't lead her through more suffering by failing; on the other hand, I do not want to feel responsible if she uses a method that will kill her. I'd feel like I'd have encouraged her suicide and aided in her death, and I'm not sure I'd be able to live with myself if that were the case.

Also, I'm egotistical, and I don't want her to die. We've already talked about it and she's set on not letting others influence her decision. She'd be leaving me in a world where not even my family or my partner understand me as deeply as she does. Yes it's self-centered to think that way, but maybe I shouldn't tell her and just hope she fails.

I don't know. I'm seriously torn apart by this. I know she lives a nightmare with her mental health and the system won't give her any help because of her substance abuse. She's living off of stolen anti-psychotics and I'm afraid she'll ctb when that runs out.

I love her so much. Please, help me help her the best way I should.

 

[sashaisalone]

My closest friend told me she would ctb "soon" (no idea when that would be) and that she was gonna do it by taking a bunch of xanax and alcohol. I've seen that it is considered a "non-method" on here, and I'm torn apart on whether or not I should tell her.

On one hand, it's her choice, and she should be able to make an informed decision that wouldn't lead her through more suffering by failing; on the other hand, I do not want to feel responsible if she uses a method that will kill her. I'd feel like I'd have encouraged her suicide and aided in her death, and I'm not sure I'd be able to live with myself if that were the case.

Also, I'm egotistical, and I don't want her to die. We've already talked about it and she's set on not letting others influence her decision. She'd be leaving me in a world where not even my family or my partner understand me as deeply as she does. Yes it's self-centered to think that way, but maybe I shouldn't tell her and just hope she fails.

I don't know. I'm seriously torn apart by this. I know she lives a nightmare with her mental health and the system won't give her any help because of her substance abuse. She's living off of stolen anti-psychotics and I'm afraid she'll ctb when that runs out.

I love her so much. Please, help me help her the best way I should.

I'm honestly lost on how to respond to this. I think I should shower, do my injection and go to bed. I'm sorry. Maybe I'll have something more thoughtful to say later?

 

[LostZombie]

All I have to say is that it's her choice in the end, but if you want to give her some of the resources on why ODing is not a viable method. Just share some of the resources we have on here to her and maybe that can help her make a more well informed decision. However it is her choice of what she does with her body in the end, don't ever forget that.

 

[Asya]

On one hand, it's her choice, and she should be able to make an informed decision that wouldn't lead her through more suffering by failing; on the other hand, I do not want to feel responsible if she uses a method that will kill her. I'd feel like I'd have encouraged her suicide and aided in her death, and I'm not sure I'd be able to live with myself if that were the case.

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[theendoftheroad]

Whenever id get thoughts like that, getting so desperate and just wanting to take every medication I can find in hopes that it'll kill my quickly enough or at least put me in a coma, I remembered all the personal stories I'd been told and all the posts id read about how it only made things so much worse. Everything gets more difficult, you could be involuntary admitted, you could cripple yourself, you'll make it harder the next time you want to attempt, if your life's already shit enough why do something that's guaranteed to make it worse. If she's in any sound mind maybe try telling her stories of how it's only made things worse. Idk how you could put it without coming off bad though

 

[inhabitinglots]

while of course its her choice, i found telling some people their method wont work, and will just make them feel pain, and even if they do succeed it will be painful, dissuades them from attempting completely, rather than making them look for another method. this is just my two cents, you dont have to do any of this. but also, you mentioned she suffers a lot, so she might genuinely look for something else. again yes its her choice yada yada but you acknowledge your reasoning for not wanting her to and also why youre so conflicted here. shes your friend and im sorry youre in this position, on one hand she could end up seriously hurting herself or ctb painfully, on the other hand u could tell her it wont work and she might scavenge for a more painful method. even if she fails she might just try again or start scavenging for something else, then. and im sorry you have to witness that, its a really helpless feeling. this is not about me at all, to be clear, but i just want you to know youre not alone-- i was in a similar position at one point and i remember how helpless i felt, i didnt wanna lose my friend but i didnt want them to suffer either. youre not alone in your conflicted feelings and how you feel is completely understandable. either way, im sorry. and defintely what asya said, she could end up fucking herself up. i know people with brain damage from ODs who have a really hard time even thinking, and they just have to live with that.

 

[sinnrr-sistrr]

This is a really fucking hard decision to make and I'm probably gonna sleep on it and reflect a lot before I do anything. I talked it up with my gf and even she couldn't add anything to what I already thought.

I'm seeing her tomorrow, I'll have the chance to tell her in person if I decide to go through with it. I just feel so torn up, I'm feeling ambivalent, I don't want her to suffer any more than she has to, but I don't want to feel responsible for her death if I help her.

It's so hard, being in this situation for the closest friend I've ever had. I'm gonna have a hard time sleeping tonight.

 

[pelicanportal]

Tell them this wont work and can cause organ damage, you dont have to provide "better" methods, just tell them you are worried. Let her vent. Also maybe have your partner there too.

 

[sinnrr-sistrr]

I wasn't able to see her today, she was already at her friend/parental figure when I was about to see her in her dorm room after my classes. Postponing until tomorrow.

I actually seeked advice from my philosophy teacher. We had a really heartfelt talk and I'm decided to tell her that her method is risky and probably won't work. He also told me he'd send me resources that could help with her situation, and I'll certainly send them her way.

I won't guide her towards better methods or anything, if she still wants to go through with it she'll have to find them by herself, I cannot help her for my own peace of mind.

I feel a bit better, but I'm still worried for her... I just hope she can find peace one way or another. I can't keep watching her suffer as much as she does.

Ô ███, ma belle ███, je ne veux que t'aider...

 

[looking4partner]

I'm a bit confused, but I also don't really know about the effects of substance use.

Is it medically dangerous to use an antipsychotic while addicted to drugs? Because the most important thing would be to find a way for her to receive those if they're helping with her mental health in my opinion.

I hope everything went well with your talk.
And this is sort of unrelated, but does anyone know why certain text posts are censored and hidden now unless you sign in or sometimes unless you also comment?

I don't remember that being part of the website design last time I was here which was some months ago. And I'm just wondering if anyone knows why the creators started implementing that.

[Hidden content]

Are there any methods that don't have potential long-term effects? Because I don't think I found any when I started my search and was looking at many different types of methods including the more rare ones

 

[isthisit?]

relatable. Not about the exact method but the same situation. I invited him here, whether that was a good idea is a definite no, I think

 

[bpdscared9]

In my opinion it's a very controversial topic. Morality stops you from supporting someone going through the worst pain ever but also, using a reckless method will only bring her more harm in her life, failing, risking potential damage that it would be irreversible in a future causing her more issues. This is a very hard topic to advice you but maybe having a proper talk to her about methods, at least "safe" ones to reduce the potential harm it may help, encourage her to find help, even if it's online through forums like we do if she doesn't have the possibility for mental care. At the end, her life is as important as yours is.

 

[sinnrr-sistrr]

Is it medically dangerous to use an antipsychotic while addicted to drugs? Because the most important thing would be to find a way for her to receive those if they're helping with her mental health in my opinion.

They won't give her antipsychotics because she has a history of abusing of the medication she is prescribed. I know she hasn't helped herself in the past but they've left her to her devices and it sucks to see, really.

In my opinion it's a very controversial topic. Morality stops you from supporting someone going through the worst pain ever but also, using a reckless method will only bring her more harm in her life, failing, risking potential damage that it would be irreversible in a future causing her more issues. This is a very hard topic to advice you but maybe having a proper talk to her about methods, at least "safe" ones to reduce the potential harm it may help, encourage her to find help, even if it's online through forums like we do if she doesn't have the possibility for mental care. At the end, her life is as important as yours is.

I sincerely cannot, for my own well-being, guide her towards "safer" methods, she will have to find them out herself. I can only deter her from her chosen method.

 

[sinnrr-sistrr]

UPDATE:
I finally got to talk to her about it, and she told me she kinda knew it wouldn't work, but she doesn't care when she's in a psychotic episode. She just wants attention, for people to see her suffering, and if ODing on xanax and alcohol will put her in a coma or whatever, that's good enough for her.

She knows it's problematic, but my job is done. All I can do from now on is support her when she needs help.

 

[Aflame5926]

UPDATE:
I finally got to talk to her about it, and she told me she kinda knew it wouldn't work, but she doesn't care when she's in a psychotic episode. She just wants attention, for people to see her suffering, and if ODing on xanax and alcohol will put her in a coma or whatever, that's good enough for her.

She knows it's problematic, but my job is done. All I can do from now on is support her when she needs help.

ya did your best. that all you can do. atleast she is aware.