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Yeah, I don't get either why some people are bringing up their ideology or ethics/morality in here. You're not dealing with visible society at large where you are protected by the courts, society and community. You're dealing with the underground here where the stuff you're buying can land you in jail. I'm really at odds why people assume these shady people care about consumer rights, morality, honesty or ethics. It's comical to think that some people can actually just go in and tell shady characters what's up with their business and how they should be running it when they're dealing with druglords, violent people on the run from the law, gangbangers and people who are at odds with visible society at large in the first place. I mean, how sheltered are you to even entertain the thought that they operate on the same vein as your Fortune 500 company? C'mon man, they should know better than that.

I understand everyone wants it to be perfect etc, thats why they are looking at finding the 'peaceful' way out. but in reality it isn't going to happen.

If you have experience of buying illegal drugs, you will know purity is never what it is meant to be. If you don't have experience you might be a bit naive about the things that go on(totally fine, members with experience will be able to guide you).

But you just can't expect to go on the dark web...a place where peadophile's,drug dealers, gun sellers etc roam. and expect it to be your average school yard,.its full of bad people selling/doing bad things.

As for trying to tell someone about their purity, how to run their business. I'm quite sure if they see a lack of business they may decide to up, purity. Im also sure they can figure that out on their own. There not stupid......after all, they are the ones in control and are making the money from it. they control who they sell to, what they sell, what its like...... Everything.. and nothing anyone does will ever change it.
 
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what we shouldn't do is keep calling him out about it, what happens if you forced him underground and he stops selling? then their is only 1 other source most people know. that can effect price all sorts. at least at the moment their is an option.

I think we should be respectful of other people that might want to make an order. If you decide not to order, fine, forget about it and move on.

There are 2 sources we know so lets not TRY make that just ONE, and think of others and not just ourselves. Plus do you really think he would care what you say. He isn't some vulnerable person on SS, he's a full on drug dealer selling a product people use to kill themselves
I couldn't agree more. C has a lot of stuff on his site other than N, and N is probably the only product on there without a repeat market.

How many illegal drug dealers, whether on the street or the dark web, are honest about the purity of their goods? The fact is that N in batches of 25g, anything from 50% upwards would pretty much guarantee a peaceful passing. The member on here who failed (the only failure account I've ever seen with N) was young and healthy and found. Her account of her post-attempt hospital experience makes it clear that with a little more time she would certainly have gone.

Messaging C with criticisms of his purity claims is likely to make him think "I'm selling all this other stuff, I don't need this". Indeed, given his already apparent repeated deferral of time for re-stocking, I fear that the damage may already have been done.
 
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Messaging C with criticisms of his purity claims is likely to make him think "I'm selling all this other stuff, I don't need this". Indeed, given his already apparent repeated deferral of time for re-stocking, I fear that the damage may already have been done.
This is what I fear, though probably C doesn't actually make this stuff. It's probably an organized criminal syndicate and C probably has no direct control over this. From what I can gather from the conversations he's had here with others and with me, he's just the techie middleman who knows his way around the utter recesses of the internet and is selling the stuff there. Trust me, the darkweb isn't the only market they're selling to. Criminal organizations don't work that way.
 
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How many illegal drug dealers, whether on the street or the dark web, are honest about the purity of their goods? The fact is that N in batches of 25g, anything from 50% upwards would pretty much guarantee a peaceful passing.

Messaging C with criticisms of his purity claims is likely to make him think "I'm selling all this other stuff, I don't need this". Indeed, given his already apparent repeated deferral of time for re-stocking, I fear that the damage may already have been done.

A member recently bought Afghan pure heroin off the dark web, had it tested and it was 58% pure. they weren't surprised by it aswell (they may have experience of buying previously, i'm not sure). but they were'nt shock, on average street heroin is only that pure, I think the member also understood exactly how buying from a drug dealer works ie not even near pure.

we are sold 25g because they KNOW what the purity is or their about. it takes 6g for an average person to ctb, yet we have to buy 25g. its clearly marketed this way to combat low purity. I'd bet my house on it, i'm that sure.

personally i too think your 2nd point actually might of happened. As you said C sells alot of other drugs, on EM he had sold 89 times, on WHM about 25. So its definately not his main source of business, and i'm pretty sure he would survive without selling N comfortably. He has stopped selling once before.

I wouldn't be surprised if he had seen some of these posts on here!!!
This is what I fear, though probably C doesn't actually make this stuff. It's probably an organized criminal syndicate and C probably has no direct control over this. From what I can gather from the conversations he's had here with others and with me, he's just the techie middleman who knows his way around the utter recesses of the internet and is selling the stuff there. Trust me, the darkweb isn't the only market they're selling to. Criminal organizations don't work that way.

too hazard a guess someone selling drugs on the dark web from china is going to be related to some sort of criminal organization. I'm sure they dont need the profit from selling N or the attention it can bring. especially if people are slagging them off, if it was me i would stop selling it and say a big fuck you to everyone (looking at it from their point of view). I can pretty much guarentee thats how these people would think. i have known plenty of people involved in drugs etc and they would just fuck someone off from buying if they had been whinging about it.

no1 forces anyone to buy stuff. plus if you haven't even bought any in the 1st place and just read what people have said on the internet, how the hell do you think you can complain. you cant even do that in a 'normal' circumstances so why would it apply in a shady business!!!
 
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too hazard a guess someone selling drugs on the dark web from china is going to be related to some sort of criminal organization. I'm sure they dont need the profit from selling N or the attention it can bring. especially if people are slagging them off, if it was me i would stop selling it and say a big fuck you to everyone (looking at it from their point of view). I can pretty much guarentee thats how these people would think. i have known plenty of people involved in drugs etc and they would just fuck someone off from buying if they had been whinging about it.
If you look at most of C's ratings and customer comments, most of them come from people buying N even back in the EM days. Also, the price of N they sell is almost equal to that of gold. Add in the fact that it's not 99% pure, profit margins are huge. I'm pretty sure they're going to continue making and selling it and it's because they have HUGE upsides to do so and it's not just in the darkweb they're selling these things, I'm pretty sure. There's also back alley "doctors", illegal trade in the real world and/or shady politicians in 3rd world countries who might have some of this tucked in later just in case things go south with their shenanigans. Like I said, criminal organizations don't just specialize in one area and limit their profit. They just don't work that way. Think ala Pablo Escobar who actually purchased submarines and planes to deliver his drugs.

no1 forces anyone to buy stuff. plus if you haven't even bought any in the 1st place and just read what people have said on the internet, how the hell do you think you can complain. you cant even do that in a 'normal' circumstances so why would it apply in a shady business!!!
Read my previous posts. I have always stated that those who complain and expect these criminal organizations to act like your Fortune 500 companies are pretty naive or stupid or both. You're not dealing with the visible surface world here where you interact with them daily and are protected by the courts. You are dealing with the underground and shady people where they don't want to be in the radar of the law.
 
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OMG, I took a look at WHM and C's seller's status is 'Restricted', meaning you cannot buy anything from him now!
It might be temporary, but could also be permanent :ohhhh:
 
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OMG, I took a look at WHM and C's seller's status is 'Restricted', meaning you cannot buy anything from him now!
It might be temporary, but could also be permanent :ohhhh:
I took a view just now and he's nowhere to be found when searching. Just when I thought I had a painless way out
*SIGH*
 
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Sent him a message on his personal site, fingers crossed.
 
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OMG, I took a look at WHM and C's seller's status is 'Restricted', meaning you cannot buy anything from him now!
It might be temporary, but could also be permanent :ohhhh:


Surpised?.............I'm not one bit. Out of stock a product that takes 24hrs to produce!

I can say this though, not long ago their was a massive police bust of something called EncroChat. basically it was encrypted phones that criminal gangs, drug dealers etc use.

It had big implications,their was a big 'drought' of cocaine in the UK i know for sure. Its back to business at the for them all now though!!!

If people are lucky, it could have something to do with that.
I took a view just now and he's nowhere to be found when searching. Just when I thought I had a painless way out
*SIGH*


Well if that the case, hopefully everyone slagging the quality is happy. EDIT i just checked also and he has gone from WHM

Now theirs only one recognized source of N.

maybe they can all go and slag the other source now, and then we have no sources:hmph:
 
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OMG, I took a look at WHM and C's seller's status is 'Restricted', meaning you cannot buy anything from him now!
It might be temporary, but could also be permanent :ohhhh:
He has 18 lost disputes
 
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I took a view just now and he's nowhere to be found when searching. Just when I thought I had a painless way out
*SIGH*

Oh well. People on this board were not going to buy from him anyway due to ethics and purity. I guess...good luck with A?
 
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He has 18 lost disputes

i don't think they are to do with/ or all for N. I looked and it was to do with MDMA powder, quite a few if i remember
Oh well. People on this board were not going to buy from him anyway due to ethics and purity. I guess...good luck with A?


If i had the money i would of bought, because i understand how purity thing and doesn't worry me. or i would at least be willing to buy it before i made assumptions about it.

Well everyone slags A off, that he doesn't send orders,scams people also. so no point anyone who wouldn't buy off C trying A instead. then they can't totally fuk it up for people wanting to actually buy it,rather than moan about something they haven't even ordered.

not having a go at you by the way :)
 
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Time to start making our own! There are two guides currently available. If I can drag myself from this time-wasting lethargy, I would like to try, provided the ingredients can be acquired painlessly (no pun intended, or maybe?).
 
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Time to start making our own! There are two guides currently available. If I can drag myself from this time-wasting lethargy, I would like to try, provided the ingredients can be acquired painlessly (no pun intended, or maybe?).

I think the ingredients aren't too easily available,but not impossible.

I'll be your guinea pig :)
 
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He has 18 lost disputes
The heck? How in the world did he lose 18 disputes? Something's quite fishy here...hmmmm
Well if that the case, hopefully everyone slagging the quality is happy. EDIT i just checked also and he has gone from WHM

Now theirs only one recognized source of N.

maybe they can all go and slag the other source now, and then we have no sources:hmph:
This is what makes me angry as well. Or maybe this was their plan from the start? hmmm...

Imagine having 18 lost disputes. Something fishy is going on here. It's like there's a concerted campaign to drive C away from the market. Either it's from the competitor A or from the authorities. This is not good at all.
 
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Alright, so i received the following response on his private site:

"Hello,

1. Yes, the admin on WH was restrict mi account without any advice.. And refund all shipped orders.. So total desaster.

2. Nembutal will be restocked in 10 days.. Please, contact me again"

Not sure what to do honestly.
 
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Alright, so i received the following response on his private site:

"Hello,

1. Yes, the admin on WH was restrict mi account without any advice.. And refund all shipped orders.. So total desaster.

2. Nembutal will be restocked in 10 days.. Please, contact me again"

Not sure what to do honestly.

It is reassuring to know that at least he is still a viable option. My only advice is that if you do put in an order, ensure that you get it tested.
 
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So if the quality of C's product is unreliable-are there any accounts of successful CTB with liquid n from A?

You may or may not get A's product if you pay for it but if you get it and it's actually sealed maybe it's more reliable...
 
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The heck? How in the world did he lose 18 disputes? Something's quite fishy here...hmmmm

This is what makes me angry as well. Or maybe this was their plan from the start? hmmm...

Imagine having 18 lost disputes. Something fishy is going on here. It's like there's a concerted campaign to drive C away from the market. Either it's from the competitor A or from the authorities. This is not good at all.

Maybe loads of pro lifers sent him emails??? you never know!!!

the disputes,people would have to buy something though.and if you read them it tells you the item being disputed.

I'm pretty sure all the disputes were to do with other drugs he sold. I remember noticing it myself and checking them out. there was definately one for N,but if i rememeber right the others were all for mdma. can't get on to see now either way!
 
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Maybe loads of pro lifers sent him emails??? you never know!!!

the disputes,people would have to buy something though.and if you read them it tells you the item being disputed.

I'm pretty sure all the disputes were to do with other drugs he sold. I remember noticing it myself and checking them out. there was definately one for N,but if i rememeber right the others were all for mdma. can't get on to see now either way!
Most of the feedback I read from him were pretty good, even on the other products he has sold. It seems to be a concerted effort to drive him away from what I can gather. Most likely some organization mass ordered, disputed that his products were "not good" then abused the escrow system to get him banned. That's what I'd actually do if I wanted him out of there.
Alright, so i received the following response on his private site:

"Hello,

1. Yes, the admin on WH was restrict mi account without any advice.. And refund all shipped orders.. So total desaster.

2. Nembutal will be restocked in 10 days.. Please, contact me again"

Not sure what to do honestly.
What's his private site? PM me pls.
 
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Most of the feedback I read from him were pretty good, even on the other products he has sold. It seems to be a concerted effort to drive him away from what I can gather. Most likely some organization mass ordered, disputed that his products were "not good" then abused the escrow system to get him banned. That's what I'd actually do if I wanted him out of there.

What's his private site? PM me pls.

I wouldn't be surprised if he had read posts on here about him!!

I'd like to know if his private site is still up! last time i tried to get on it i couldn't it was a while ago though
 
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Hi All

Sorry to jump in but I was intending to purchase from WHM but now due to recent events I have no way of contacting C if anyone could help me through PM I would very much appreciate that.

I also think messaging / attacking the guy is counter productive, the other thing you have to consider with dealers is paranoia. If people are attacking him he will go on the defense and disappear.
 
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Hi All

Sorry to jump in but I was intending to purchase from WHM but now due to recent events I have no way of contacting C if anyone could help me through PM I would very much appreciate that.

I also think messaging / attacking the guy is counter productive, the other thing you have to consider with dealers is paranoia. If people are attacking him he will go on the defense and disappear.

I think you would have to go to his personnel site now. i'm not sure if its still up or not. i jus t posted a reply about it, see if any members know if it is or not.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if he had read posts on here about him!!

Don't think he cares that much about SS. Drug dealers would be out of business if they listened and gave a flying frick for every complaint a disgruntled customer might say. I'm going with the possibility that this was a concerted effort by someone or some group that wants him shut down. The "organization" as we might call it could either be competition like A or just Karens wanting to shut the availability of N down. In that case, they got what they wanted. Hope they're happy that we suffer more!

I'd like to know if his private site is still up! last time i tried to get on it i couldn't it was a while ago though
This as well. I want to know his private site so I can message him directly and see if he plans to sell again through escrow.
 
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thanks for your reply , I've seen a few members have emailed him so hopefully somebody can help
I think you would have to go to his personnel site now. i'm not sure if its still up or not. i jus t posted a reply about it, see if any members know if it is or not.
 
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you need to be careful if you get a link to his site, on the dark web.just in case it a phising scam site or something.
 
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I recall that C only posted his private site on his profile on EM. So I am not sure how anyone can get it unless they copied it somewhere as he did not include his private website on his WHM profile (the last I checked).

A poster on this thread stated that he does not use escrow on his private site. So you are purchasing at your own risk.
 
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I recall that C only posted his private site on his profile on EM. So I am not sure how anyone can get it unless they copied it somewhere as he did not include his private website on his WHM profile (the last I checked).

A poster on this thread stated that he does not use escrow on his private site. So you are purchasing at your own risk.

you just reminded me where i saw the link!!!

I copied 2 emails he had also written on the EM page, there on some paper somewhere :wink:

I do remember i gave an email for him to a member on here, i'm pretty sure they used it to contact him aswell! might have to search all the PM's lol
 
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you just reminded me where i saw the link!!!

I copied 2 emails he had also written on the EM page, there on some paper somewhere :wink:

I do remember i gave an email for him to a member on here, i'm pretty sure they used it to contact him aswell! might have to search all the PM's lol

If you find the url, can you kindly PM it to me?
 
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If you find the url, can you kindly PM it to me?

I haven't got this website site URL, I was waiting to see if someone else had it. although you have got to be careful what links you go on, especially on the dark web
Don't think he cares that much about SS. Drug dealers would be out of business if they listened and gave a flying frick for every complaint a disgruntled customer might say. I'm going with the possibility that this was a concerted effort by someone or some group that wants him shut down. The "organization" as we might call it could either be competition like A or just Karens wanting to shut the availability of N down. In that case, they got what they wanted. Hope they're happy that we suffer more!


This as well. I want to know his private site so I can message him directly and see if he plans to sell again through escrow.

so i've just gone back a few posts and noticed a member has contacted C and he replied the following

1. Yes, the admin on WH was restrict mi account without any advice.. And refund all shipped orders.. So total desaster.

2. Nembutal will be restocked in 10 days.. Please, contact me again"

so people might be in luck???
 
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