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MortDeVivre

MortDeVivre

"If a battle cannot be won, do not fight it."
May 31, 2018
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My package leaves tomorrow, I'll see in 2 weeks, hopefully.
Mine too, supposedly. Have you received anything else from him before? Do you know if you'll have to give your signature?
 
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Deep Breaths
Aug 25, 2018
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Have you ever thought anout that you write with a single person and not with a company with 10,000,000 employees?
You say A doesn't answer you for 2 days so you send another message and another one and another one.
A thousand people sending him 100,000 messages a day. I don't think he's just getting friendly mails.
I wouldn't want to answer some stupid questions all the time and justify myself. Things take longer than that. He probably has to process and control more than 100 deliveries. Give him some time to answer. I know you paid him and want to know, but the pphb says he communicates very slowly. According to Exit, he has been reliable for years - at least the most reliable one existing. A lot of people here got their N. So nobody needs to report exit or scold him or annoy him with a million mails.

By the way: he answers me sometimes after 10 minutes sometimes after 3 days.

Let's calm down.
I would lean this way as well. This is a lot of money for people, so the uneasiness is very understandable, but we cannot know what's going on on A's end. He has a life, maybe a full-time job, maybe a family, who knows... a lot of other responsibilities in any case. I wouldn't doubt he sees this as a business like any other, without much consideration to what people are actually ordering the product for. And clearly, customer service is not his specialty or his priority.

Then he has to battle inefficiency in postal service for multiple countries. Tracking services rely on human workers remembering to scan packages at every checkpoint. It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that his packages get targeted for theft somewhere along the delivery chain. And then there's customs... "Hey, what's going on with my shipment? I need an update. Just don't open it..."

I don't mean these things as excuses for him, but rather, alternative explanations for us. I feel like we can keep faith in the PPHB on this one, for now.
 
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Charlie

Charlie

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May 12, 2018
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I'm going to send the 100 bucks tomorrow morning. I have nothing to lose. If it doesn't come within 3 weeks - so be it - I'll hang myself.

Gives me some time to enjoy Zelda.
 
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Rex

Lonely af
May 25, 2018
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I'm going to send the 100 bucks tomorrow morning. I have nothing to lose. If it doesn't come within 3 weeks - so be it - I'll hang myself.

Gives me some time to enjoy Zelda.
Have you had a reply? Not heard from him since wednesday and I paid 200bucks to get mine with this private courier after the July postings... I would say maybe hold off, he has not updated me with info of tracking etc yet, so as the days tick on from wednesday, the more concerned I get.
 
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Charlie

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May 12, 2018
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Have you had a reply? Not heard from him since wednesday and I paid 200bucks to get mine with this private courier after the July postings... I would say maybe hold off, he has not updated me with info of tracking etc yet, so as the days tick on from wednesday, the more concerned I get.
He replied to me yeah. :/

Do you think he may be a scammer? He may get the money and then stop responding :(
 
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Rex

Lonely af
May 25, 2018
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He replied to me yeah. :/

Do you think he may be a scammer? He may get the money and then stop responding :(
It's actually something that isn't totally out of the question any more. I will just see how things go, but if I hear nothing about my own order by this wednesday, I'll talk with mods and admins about it.

Before there was nothing to suspect he was, but these latest issues and only responding to people who have not yet paid, is concerning and does raise the question of why. Not saying he is a scammer at this point, but I'm also not saying it's not impossible he has gone rogue after all this time, the new president in July really could have shook his business up, so the move in that situation is to scam and run, it's what i'd do... but it's not to say he has done that, but WHY would he not respond to me after I paid him twice, once in July and once in again sometime last week for private courier and nothing yet, despite sending an email each day.

Will keep you updated if i get an email, or lack there of. I'd just personally advise against giving A any money until current customers know they have their tracking / packages. As a person expecting... I can just reply here if I get an email update or not, simple as that. Sigh, it's stressing. Especially since I never really thought of a plan B, so now i feel i'm back to square one with everything, well I am... lol
 
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Charlie

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May 12, 2018
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It's actually something that isn't totally out of the question any more. I will just see how things go, but if I hear nothing about my own order by this wednesday, I'll talk with mods and admins about it.

Before there was nothing to suspect he was, but these latest issues and only responding to people who have not yet paid, is concerning and does raise the question of why. Not saying he is a scammer at this point, but I'm also not saying it's not impossible he has gone rogue after all this time, the new president in July really could have shook his business up, so the move in that situation is to scam and run, it's what i'd do... but it's not to say he has done that, but WHY would he not respond to me after I paid him twice, once in July and once in again sometime last week for private courier and nothing yet, despite sending an email each day.

Will keep you updated if i get an email, or lack there of. I'd just personally advise against giving A any money until current customers know they have their tracking / packages. As a person expecting... I can just reply here if I get an email update or not, simple as that. Sigh, it's stressing. Especially since I never really thought of a plan B, so now i feel i'm back to square one with everything, well I am... lol
Okay. I'll hold off for now. Thank you
 
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Bodylotion

Bodylotion

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Aug 11, 2018
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Anyone received N in the last 2 weeks from him? I only keep seeing people saying not receiving at all the last 2 weeks.
While in July I see some people writing that they have received.
 
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Charlie

Student
May 12, 2018
128
Anyone received N in the last 2 weeks from him? I only keep seeing people saying not receiving at all the last 2 weeks.
While in July I see some people writing that they have received.
I am waiting going on nearly five weeks.

Saaaaaaad face :'(
 
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intr0naut

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May 26, 2018
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Anyone received N in the last 2 weeks from him? I only keep seeing people saying not receiving at all the last 2 weeks.
While in July I see some people writing that they have received.
Yes. A PPeH forum member got hers on August 16 to the Netherlands. Be patient and don't expect tracking updates. A thinks l.e. is using them to track your package; not sure if he's paranoid or not. Also, he doesn't provide anti-emetics in the same package with N.
 
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Rebirth

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Jun 20, 2018
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Yes. A PPeH forum member got hers on August 16 to the Netherlands. Be patient and don't expect tracking updates. A thinks l.e. is using them to track your package; not sure if he's paranoid or not. Also, he doesn't provide anti-emetics in the same package with N.
IE?
 
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Over n' Out

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Aug 5, 2018
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It's advised in the ppeh to tell A' your exit membership number. As a woman from the forum got hers recently I guess she did that and A' gives priority to exit members. Because if he doesn't it would be talked about on the exit forums.

I would guess people who are not exit members and have got his contact details from a 3rd hand old pdf file will get 3rd class treatment from him as he thinks you'll have no forum to complain on so his reputation won't get affected.

Maybe.
 
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Rebirth

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It's advised in the ppeh to tell A' your exit membership number. As a woman from the forum got hers recently I guess she did that and A' gives priority to exit members. Because if he doesn't it would be talked about on the exit forums.

I would guess people who are not exit members and have got his contact details from a 3rd hand old pdf file will get 3rd class treatment from him as he thinks you'll have no forum to complain on so his reputation won't get affected.

Maybe.
Then I am seriously considering telling him other forums exist where we are talking about him and are privy to all his actions.
No need to tell him our URL, the fact we can compile these stories is enough.
 
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intr0naut

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May 26, 2018
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I really don't know if she gave A her membership no. but i think A is aware many of his customers are not Exit members.
 
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overkill

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Jul 18, 2018
132
I am gonna order from him in the next days, will keep you up-to-date if he delivers.
 
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Then I am seriously considering telling him other forums exist where we are talking about him and are privy to all his actions.
No need to tell him our URL, the fact we can compile these stories is enough.

Also there comes a point where if you are a one man business and getting loads of orders that..
1. You cannot cope with the workload as efficiently as you once did.
2. You stop caring as much as the money has softened your drive. You can afford to be a slacker now. Esp with no competition and an endless flow of orders.
3. There could be N supply problems for him too. Maybe getting hold of so much is not straight forward as it is imagined.
Nobody knows even how many genuine exit members order each week. Is it 15 or 115 for instance.
4. Perhaps LE is on his trail and he knows it. Maybe he travels hundreds of miles a week sending N out from different post offices to try and avoid being tracked.

It could be all, none or some of those reasons. These problems never used to happen until his details got shared around so often like has happened here, 8ch and the old reddit site in the past year.
I gave a screenshot of his details to a couple of people on reddit about a year ago. It was rare I was asked for it. Now everybody knows it and there are google drives and pdf's shared all over the place now. His workload must have gone through the roof in the past year. It was never meant for teen kids to get hold of but that's what is happening now.
 
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Nonexistence

Nonexistence

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Aug 12, 2018
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Yes it might be helpful to make him aware this is a big forum and people are sharing details of his actions, so if he doesn't at least improve his correspondence it will effect his reputation and he will lose a lot of business.
 
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great-ape99

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Apr 22, 2018
111
I ordered from J. Still have my N ready for use. I have a source to a free version of the PPH if anyone wants it just PM me. Though it might take a while to respond I will eventually get back to you.
 
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Point proved right there.
 
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Charlie

Charlie

Student
May 12, 2018
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Also there comes a point where if you are a one man business and getting loads of orders that..
1. You cannot cope with the workload as efficiently as you once did.
2. You stop caring as much as the money has softened your drive. You can afford to be a slacker now. Esp with no competition and an endless flow of orders.
3. There could be N supply problems for him too. Maybe getting hold of so much is not straight forward as it is imagined.
Nobody knows even how many genuine exit members order each week. Is it 15 or 115 for instance.
4. Perhaps LE is on his trail and he knows it. Maybe he travels hundreds of miles a week sending N out from different post offices to try and avoid being tracked.

It could be all, none or some of those reasons. These problems never used to happen until his details got shared around so often like has happened here, 8ch and the old reddit site in the past year.
I gave a screenshot of his details to a couple of people on reddit about a year ago. It was rare I was asked for it. Now everybody knows it and there are google drives and pdf's shared all over the place now. His workload must have gone through the roof in the past year. It was never meant for teen kids to get hold of but that's what is happening now.

I like how you're partially blaming young people for wanting a peaceful death on how shit his business practise has become.

Also, this website is literally here to have all the information someone would need to get their desired death. Of course the PPEH is available easily.

Sodium pentobarbital is the best death possible in the eyes of many people. euthanasia organisations, including Dignitas use it for exmaple so of course people will want to get their hands on it.
 
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Madrid27

Student
Jul 24, 2018
193
If you buy N in Mexico and you take it in your suitcase to your country of origin, will it be confiscated at customs?
 
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HannibalLector

Student
Jul 5, 2018
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Also there comes a point where if you are a one man business and getting loads of orders that..
1. You cannot cope with the workload as efficiently as you once did.
2. You stop caring as much as the money has softened your drive. You can afford to be a slacker now. Esp with no competition and an endless flow of orders.
3. There could be N supply problems for him too. Maybe getting hold of so much is not straight forward as it is imagined.
Nobody knows even how many genuine exit members order each week. Is it 15 or 115 for instance.
4. Perhaps LE is on his trail and he knows it. Maybe he travels hundreds of miles a week sending N out from different post offices to try and avoid being tracked.

It could be all, none or some of those reasons. These problems never used to happen until his details got shared around so often like has happened here, 8ch and the old reddit site in the past year.
I gave a screenshot of his details to a couple of people on reddit about a year ago. It was rare I was asked for it. Now everybody knows it and there are google drives and pdf's shared all over the place now. His workload must have gone through the roof in the past year. It was never meant for teen kids to get hold of but that's what is happening now.

I dont think this is a compelling argument. It would be wiser to simply increase price (supply and demand) and/or expand organization.
 
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okyeah

Arcanist
Jul 20, 2018
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Pretty sure that A guy is a scammer. I did a quick google of his name when I first got here and saw very old forum posts talking about the same dude. They were very angry about not receiving nembutal.
 
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Charlie

Student
May 12, 2018
128
Okay, so I have an update of sorts.

I asked A whether the 100 dollar re-send offer he gave me was valid for a limited time or not as I desire to wait until some people I know to receive their packages.

He said it is valid anytime.

Sooooooo he may not be a scammer? (As he probably would want me to spend my money fast instead of waiting) I dunno. He seems genuine but I'm just hoping he is because holy God I really want Nembutal haha
 
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MortDeVivre

MortDeVivre

"If a battle cannot be won, do not fight it."
May 31, 2018
140
He got back to me aswell. He said my antiemetics were shipped on Saturday, and that he's waiting for a contact to give him the tracking number. The eBay seller was kind enough to let me order from him again, even after I refused the first package, so if for some reason I don't get A's package, I'll have another one to fall back on.
 
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dartanian

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Aug 19, 2018
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How did you approach A in your first email to him?
Did you mentioned you reached him through the ppeh or exit?
 
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saffron

Student
Jul 18, 2018
128
How did you approach A in your first email to him?
Did you mentioned you reached him through the ppeh or exit?

you just ask about N, questions you have about it etc, he doesn't care about where you heard about him
 
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dartanian

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Aug 19, 2018
64
you just ask about N, questions you have about it etc, he doesn't care about where you heard about him

I got a feeling that he is related to the authors of ppeh and its the same business.
Might be that those whom their package was really sent are verified members of their forums.
 
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saffron

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Jul 18, 2018
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I got a feeling that is related to the authors of ppeh and its the same business.
Might be that those whom their package was really sent are verified members of their forums.

when i contacted A he didn't ask for the number/code of my pph or whatever, i know someone on here who bought and didn't own ppeh or give a code etc and received.. you could always just contact him and hint that you're an exit member if you're really that worried, could also say you plan on reviewing him on the exit forums
 
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