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gothbird

gothbird

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Mar 16, 2025
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Hi everyone! I thought it might be helpful to create a megathread for those of you reaching out with questions about this thread I made:


Feel free to take a look. I did my best to make it as comprehensive as possible when I posted it.

If you have any questions, ideas, or anything related to the method, please feel free to share them here! I'll do my best to assist, and I'm sure there are others with experience and knowledge who can chime in as well.

This post will serve as a place to gather all the information we have on the KN method, including what else might be needed and how it compares to other popular methods.

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I did want to personally add that I have ordered KN from two sites I located. I will test them when they arrive. For those of you who are thinking of or have ordered KN, here is how to test its purity:

Visual check: Pure KN is usually white or slightly pale yellow, free flowing, and without clumps or particles. If it's discoloured, clumpy, or has specks, it might be contaminated or degraded. Visual inspection should not be the only way to test its purity, but can help!
Solubility test: KN is very soluble in water. Try dissolving 1g in 10โ€“20ml of distilled water. It should fully dissolve with no residue. If anything's left over, that might indicate filler or another compound.
pH test: KN in water has a pH around 8โ€“9. If you have a pH strip or digital pH meter, dissolve a small amount in distilled water and check the result. Way outside that range suggests something is off. Here is how to do it:
  • Dissolve ~0.5 g KN in 10 mL distilled water.
  • Drop a bit of solution onto a strip using a pipette (don't dunk!!!).
  • Match color chart within 15 seconds.
  • Ideal pH is 8โ€“9. if it's far outside, KN may be impure.
Here are some examples of pH strips:
PH Test Strips 400 Strips
Litmus pH Test Strips
pH Test Strips(pH 1-14)
1 Pack pH Test Strips
 
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NearlyIrrelevantCake

The Cake Is A Lie
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The PPH discusses it, too.

 
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The PPH discusses it, too.

Yeah! I'm hoping to see my exit through KN, so I mentioned the PPH in the method thread.
 
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MercenariesofMidgar

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nice... I remember discussing this with a user who ended up buying it, and went offline soon after. Hope they are at peace, if alive or dead.
 
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Feb 27, 2025
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Very informative as always @gothbird
 
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VoidBlessed

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Dec 2, 2024
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Chemsavers is no longer shipping nitrites of any kind (SN, KN) to non-lab addresses. They know they've been posted here and what people are buying it for. Anyone looking for SN/KN will have to find a different source.
 
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UaScorpioVetal224

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Welcome to Ukraine. Sodium nitrate.
 
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CTB set me free

CTB set me free

Chief Commander Cheesy Beef Burrito Supreme
Jul 16, 2025
10
I think I can get a hold of KN at 97% purity. That should be good enough right? I am worried about throwing up from the taste since potassium tastes pretty horrible. I'm pretty sure I could handle the taste of SN though, too bad it's hard to get a hold of.
 
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Mar 16, 2025
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I think I can get a hold of KN at 97% purity. That should be good enough right? I am worried about throwing up from the taste since potassium tastes pretty horrible. I'm pretty sure I could handle the taste of SN though, too bad it's hard to get a hold of.
97% and higher is good. Both taste awful either way. Get some candy for after, like a werther's original, and suck it if you're worried about the taste.
 
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coincidentpoint

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Aug 4, 2025
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In my experience so far: sourcing KN isn't easier than sourcing SN.
 
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EmptyBottle

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Apr 10, 2025
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Chemsavers is no longer shipping nitrites of any kind (SN, KN) to non-lab addresses. They know they've been posted here and what people are buying it for. Anyone looking for SN/KN will have to find a different source.
or rent a lab (expensive tho)
 
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idiotmother

Arcanist
Mar 21, 2025
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Anyone know what it's like to die from this as opposed to SN?
The PPH discusses it, too.

I only see sodium nitrite and azide in there?
 
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EmptyBottle

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Yes I've heard that too. I wonder how painful KN is. And I worry about the pain of SN.
I remember @2ndme mentioning "hard to breath" and "I feel regretful", not sure how painful those symptoms were on a scale of 1 to 10, but they weren't 1-3 for sure.
 
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idiotmother

Arcanist
Mar 21, 2025
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I remember @2ndme mentioning "hard to breath" and "I feel regretful", not sure how painful those symptoms were on a scale of 1 to 10, but they weren't 1-3 for sure.
For Sn? ;((. So scary
 
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EmptyBottle

2036-01-10T08
Apr 10, 2025
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Just did. Very sad. Was Sn your method?
nope, night night, but with 3 socks (instead of 1 sock... forgotten instructions was why I survived 2022, I posted it with "skipped ticket process" as part of the title)
 
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idiotmother

Arcanist
Mar 21, 2025
464
nope, night night, but with 3 socks (instead of 1 sock... forgotten instructions was why I survived 2022, I posted it with "skipped ticket process" as part of the title)
Wow that takes a lot of determination and research. Dying is hard ;(. I wish we weren't in these situations.
 
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quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
Anyone know what it's like to die from this as opposed to SN?

I only see sodium nitrite and azide in there?
According to the PPH, KN should be roughly identical in nature to SN. I wouldn't expect to the symptoms to be much better or worse.
 
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idiotmother

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Mar 21, 2025
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According to the PPH, KN should be roughly identical in nature to SN. I wouldn't expect to the symptoms to be much better or worse.
Thanks for saying so. I looked through Pph and didn't see it mentioned but maybe I'm forgetting. There's a source on here who was not successful with kn, though she didn't know why, and two other girls who were successful. .
 
quietwoods

quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
Thanks for saying so. I looked through Pph and didn't see it mentioned but maybe I'm forgetting. There's a source on here who was not successful with kn, though she didn't know why, and two other girls who were successful. .
If you're talking about the one who took 22g of KN, she vomited almost immediately it sounded like. There was very little time for the KN to be absorbed. Sounds like she still had some symptoms but didn't absorb a lethal dose
 
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idiotmother

Arcanist
Mar 21, 2025
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If you're talking about the one who took 22g of KN, she vomited almost immediately it sounded like. There was very little time for the KN to be absorbed. Sounds like she still had some symptoms but didn't absorb a lethal dose
Oh maybe. The one I remember ended up having a seizure due to the effects but still survived obviously. And I think there was a dude who survived it too. Not a lot to go off of unfortunately/fortunately.
 
gothbird

gothbird

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Mar 16, 2025
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There isn't ever going to be a pain free way. SN or KN are about as close as anyone outside medicine will ever get. Worrying about vomiting or discomfort feels small when you've lived with pain every single day. If you're truly serious, that part doesn't even feel like a lot.
 
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quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
There isn't ever going to be a pain free way. SN or KN are about as close as anyone outside medicine will ever get. Worrying about vomiting or discomfort feels small when you've lived with pain every single day. If you're truly serious, that part doesn't even feel like a lot.
Suppose it depends on your tolerance. I can deal with with pain, headache, etc., but vomiting and nausea are a major concern. I detest both of those things and it seems like SN and KN both are problematic with those two compared to other methods. Would really not want my final moments to be vomiting profusely.

And there are other peaceful accessible methods. I am kinda working on a method/megathread which pulls together information about a particular method that doesn't really have it's own section in the PPH but is mentioned multiple times, and is detailed more extensively in a version of the PPH not accessible on this website.

Seen someone who did something similar a few years ago and they were unconscious within 10 minutes, no nausea and only mild discomfort, and were successful. No benzos either.

Worried about posting it though because I don't want the sources to get swarmed. Will maybe post closer to when my time comes.
 
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Mar 16, 2025
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Suppose it depends on your tolerance. I can deal with with pain, headache, etc., but vomiting and nausea are a major concern. I detest both of those things and it seems like SN and KN both are problematic with those two compared to other methods. Would really not want my final moments to be vomiting profusely.

And there are other peaceful accessible methods. I am kinda working on a method/megathread which pulls together information about a particular method that doesn't really have it's own section in the PPH but is mentioned multiple times, and is detailed more extensively in a version of the PPH not accessible on this website.

Seen someone who did something similar a few years ago and they were unconscious within 10 minutes, no nausea and only mild discomfort, and were successful. No benzos either.

Worried about posting it though because I don't want the sources to get swarmed. Will maybe post closer to when my time comes.
That actually does make me curious. If there's a method that bypasses the nausea entirely, it's worth knowing about (even if it's in the PPH) because yes, SN/KN are reliable but the stomach upset is part of the trade off I suppose. There are ways to reduce it but you're right, none of that guarantees anything.
If what you've seen worked within ten minutes with no nausea, that's pretty significant. Especially without benzos. I'm super interested for sure, and I bet others are. If you felt comfy, I'd love a DM. I haven't read the PPH in a little bit now.
For me, vomiting feels like the least of it compared. I definitely know people with emetophobia so this isn't really the best path. It's kind of like needles for drugs. I'm pretty weird about being okay with phlebotomists but I couldn't do it myself lmao.
 
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quietwoods

Easypeazylemonsqueezy
May 21, 2025
507
That actually does make me curious. If there's a method that bypasses the nausea entirely, it's worth knowing about (even if it's in the PPH) because yes, SN/KN are reliable but the stomach upset is part of the trade off I suppose. There are ways to reduce it but you're right, none of that guarantees anything.
If what you've seen worked within ten minutes with no nausea, that's pretty significant. Especially without benzos. I'm super interested for sure, and I bet others are. If you felt comfy, I'd love a DM. I haven't read the PPH in a little bit now.
For me, vomiting feels like the least of it compared. I definitely know people with emetophobia so this isn't really the best path. It's kind of like needles for drugs. I'm pretty weird about being okay with phlebotomists but I couldn't do it myself lmao.
Sure, you've contributed a lot to the community in the past and I doubt you'll go sharing this with everybody. You've also figured out one piece of the puzzle already from previous discussions we've had.

Will try to DM tomorrow or Sunday. Unusually busy this weekend and it's a lot to type and take screenshots of. If you don't hear from me by then feel free to send a reminder.
 
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Zerengin96

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Is 95 Percent purity enough for KN to CBT?
 
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