Megathread getting n from a

[therhydler]

Hello, unfortunately bitpanda doesn't seem to work for me when I try to deposit

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I can help you :(

 

[Jupiter]

From Geo Stone's book: pentobarbital NL 9 gr 25 % of users survive for 2 hours to 4 days. Stone suggests plastic bag/tube tent.

25% seems to be a very high percentage. Are you sure it was 25 in the book?

 

[Jupiter]

Ok. I looked up the numbers in the link @Idorus once gave us (https://www.dignifieddying.com/publicaties/EN/2006 Guide to Self-Chosen and Humane Death.pdf).

Switzerland, 1997-2000, Pentobarbital 10-12g, 261 people:
88% died within the first 60 minutes
12% within 12 hours
one single person was still alive after 12 hours

Netherlands, Pentobarbital 9g or Secobarbital, 123 people:
82% died within the first 60 minutes
7% the next hour
7% were injected with a muscle relaxant after 2 hours by doctors
4% no reports

The vast majority in both documented studies died in the first 30 minutes. According to the pdf coma is irreversible after a few hours. It also states that once the bottles are opened the solution remains stable for one month.

 

[Idorus]

Yes ^ I read that too about the irreversibility after some hours. Important info. Those people still alive after some hours only got an injection to speed up the process but would've died anyway. A reassuring thought.

 

[Goldenwolf]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I can help you :(

Hi therhyler! Nevermind, it was my connection at the hotel I'm staying in. I went to the library and it worked. You're right, bitpanda is easy! Sorry about that and thanks for telling me about bitpanda! I I made an account on it before but chose to use other sites instead. Now I have brought my N, thanks for the help.

 

[therhydler]

Hi therhyler! Nevermind, it was my connection at the hotel I'm staying in. I went to the library and it worked. You're right, bitpanda is easy! Sorry about that and thanks for telling me about bitpanda! I I made an account on it before but chose to use other sites instead. Now I have brought my N, thanks for the help.

Im very glad :)

 

[Broken]

I did. Medium-risk I guess.

Did you go with private courier? What payment method did you use? I am in the uk as well!

 

[umniak]

Goldenwolf where did you get your N? I see so many conflicting addresses for A, could you please help. I have SN but I'm too scared to try that or the DDMP method. Thanks.

 

[creationisdeath]

Goldenwolf where did you get your N? I see so many conflicting addresses for A, could you please help. I have SN but I'm too scared to try that or the DDMP method. Thanks.

He has 2 addresses for some reason, both in the PDF file in the resources thread.

Be careful typing, there are scammers with only 1 letter changed..

 

[Broken]

Would love to chat with anyone from the uk with n experience, advice! Got a few questions I wouldn't mind asking!

 

[Arak]

My experience with A.

I ordered N from A not long after after A's surgery. I'm in Europe, not UK. I ordered by private courier. I will summarize things a bit.

According to the email, it would be shipped quickly. A lot of time went by. Late December I asked questions. In total I got a bunch of tracking numbers that were delivered in my country, but to different cities !
Early January he claimed that my package was sent, then he 'worried' the package might not have been sent. Then an offer for a free reship.
He mentioned a date. Then I got a tracking number. It turned out the package was headed for Australia. As of this date, it has arrived at its destination in Australia but is awaiting pickup !

Next email from A: the package had been sent a week later. He'd get the tracking numbers on Thursday. After asking, as of yet: nothing. At this point I don't expect to receive anything. I'm quite disillusioned.

I've got a whole bunch of tracking numbers. If I wanted, I could post them or report those numbers to authorities. Don't worry, I won't do that.

I don't really care about the money, but I really needed the N and A did not meet his obligations. Seizures I could deal with. Now I'm facing a very, very difficult and problematic situation. I don't really expect the N to arrive, but you never know. I feel as if I've been kept on a string. It feels like a mindfuck.

Of course it's quite possible that the tracking numbers I received were of travel brochures to Mexico !

There is someone else who has been quite dissatisfied with A. Maybe the person in question will post, that remains to be seen.

Anyone else who has similar experiences ?

 

[onegoodreason]

Regarding drinking down the N with any sort of before/after chaser - OK, here's my stupidity showing again, no doubt - can the N be mixed with alcohol to start with? I mean, since we're talking about chasing it with alcohol, why not just mix the two together and drink that down? It's all going to the same place pretty quick anyway. I saw somewhere above about mixing with oj and that some say it interacts and others say it's fine. So hard to know which way to go on this. Or how about mixing it with the honey? Just trying to minimize the steps, but it's okay with me if the N should be taken on its own. I like the cotton ball up the nose and ice cubes to numb the tongue - great ideas! :-)

Also, for those who were talking about a plastic cup, I would use glass instead. Plastic can leach into whatever is inside the container. We don't drink out of plastic bottles anymore and I've been getting rid of plastic containers and using glass as much as I can. Have no idea if N would react with plastic, but I'd rather not risk it. And some plastics have a smell, too, that could make things worse for those who are hypersensitive.

I'm curious, too, about leaving the N bottles. Not sure if I want husband to know exactly what I did, but I think I may have to tell him in my note just in case I'm not completely gone when he finds me. Planning on a good 12 hours at least, if not more. He doesn't come in my room much anymore, but he may be curious about Shane being gone and stick his head in. Would there be a smell he could detect, do you think? That would bring him in, if so. I will certainly make sure I've eliminated anything before I take the N, but there could still be an accident anyway, aside from vomit, and any of that would be smelly. I hope not, don't want to be a messy corpse, just not dignified. But would the N leave a detectable odor after ingesting? I'm thinking not, but what do I know?

Peace.

 

[therhydler]

My experience with A.

I ordered N from A not long after after A's surgery. I'm in Europe, not UK. I ordered by private courier. I will summarize things a bit.

According to the email, it would be shipped quickly. A lot of time went by. Late December I asked questions. In total I got a bunch of tracking numbers that were delivered in my country, but to different cities !
Early January he claimed that my package was sent, then he 'worried' the package might not have been sent. Then an offer for a free reship.
He mentioned a date. Then I got a tracking number. It turned out the package was headed for Australia. As of this date, it has arrived at its destination in Australia but is awaiting pickup !

Next email from A: the package had been sent a week later. He'd get the tracking numbers on Thursday. After asking, as of yet: nothing. At this point I don't expect to receive anything. I'm quite disillusioned.

I've got a whole bunch of tracking numbers. If I wanted, I could post them or report those numbers to authorities. Don't worry, I won't do that.

I don't really care about the money, but I really needed the N and A did not meet his obligations. Seizures I could deal with. Now I'm facing a very, very difficult and problematic situation. I don't really expect the N to arrive, but you never know. I feel as if I've been kept on a string. It feels like a mindfuck.

Of course it's quite possible that the tracking numbers I received were of travel brochures to Mexico !

There is someone else who has been quite dissatisfied with A. Maybe the person in question will post, that remains to be seen.

Anyone else who has similar experiences ?

Wow I'm really sorry you had such a bad experience :(

 

[OnlyMercy]

My experience with A.

I ordered N from A not long after after A's surgery. I'm in Europe, not UK. I ordered by private courier. I will summarize things a bit.

According to the email, it would be shipped quickly. A lot of time went by. Late December I asked questions. In total I got a bunch of tracking numbers that were delivered in my country, but to different cities !
Early January he claimed that my package was sent, then he 'worried' the package might not have been sent. Then an offer for a free reship.
He mentioned a date. Then I got a tracking number. It turned out the package was headed for Australia. As of this date, it has arrived at its destination in Australia but is awaiting pickup !

Next email from A: the package had been sent a week later. He'd get the tracking numbers on Thursday. After asking, as of yet: nothing. At this point I don't expect to receive anything. I'm quite disillusioned.

I've got a whole bunch of tracking numbers. If I wanted, I could post them or report those numbers to authorities. Don't worry, I won't do that.

I don't really care about the money, but I really needed the N and A did not meet his obligations. Seizures I could deal with. Now I'm facing a very, very difficult and problematic situation. I don't really expect the N to arrive, but you never know. I feel as if I've been kept on a string. It feels like a mindfuck.

Of course it's quite possible that the tracking numbers I received were of travel brochures to Mexico !

There is someone else who has been quite dissatisfied with A. Maybe the person in question will post, that remains to be seen.

Anyone else who has similar experiences ?

I too am having a difficult time with A. My first order simply disappeared into thin air.

I believe most matters would be solved if he simply stuck to EMS courier like he used to instead of charging exorbitant fees for a "Private Courier" service that isn't really "Private Courier" at all. The marketing of his "distribution" mechanism is somewhat misleading.

 

[pleasethistime]

if the custom officials understand what it is and and detain it? do they inform the police? and and is it a serious crime?

 

[Deleted member 4993]

if the custom officials understand what it is and and detain it? do they inform the police? and and is it a serious crime?

Depends what country you live in. Some seem to get no follow up whatever.

 

[Broken]

My experience with A.

I ordered N from A not long after after A's surgery. I'm in Europe, not UK. I ordered by private courier. I will summarize things a bit.

According to the email, it would be shipped quickly. A lot of time went by. Late December I asked questions. In total I got a bunch of tracking numbers that were delivered in my country, but to different cities !
Early January he claimed that my package was sent, then he 'worried' the package might not have been sent. Then an offer for a free reship.
He mentioned a date. Then I got a tracking number. It turned out the package was headed for Australia. As of this date, it has arrived at its destination in Australia but is awaiting pickup !

Next email from A: the package had been sent a week later. He'd get the tracking numbers on Thursday. After asking, as of yet: nothing. At this point I don't expect to receive anything. I'm quite disillusioned.

I've got a whole bunch of tracking numbers. If I wanted, I could post them or report those numbers to authorities. Don't worry, I won't do that.

I don't really care about the money, but I really needed the N and A did not meet his obligations. Seizures I could deal with. Now I'm facing a very, very difficult and problematic situation. I don't really expect the N to arrive, but you never know. I feel as if I've been kept on a string. It feels like a mindfuck.

Of course it's quite possible that the tracking numbers I received were of travel brochures to Mexico !

There is someone else who has been quite dissatisfied with A. Maybe the person in question will post, that remains to be seen.

Anyone else who has similar experiences ?

So how long ago was the last package sent?

 

[Broken]

Depends what country you live in. Some seem to get no follow up whatever.

What about the UK?

 

[Broken]

I too am having a difficult time with A. My first order simply disappeared into thin air.

I believe most matters would be solved if he simply stuck to EMS courier like he used to instead of charging exorbitant fees for a "Private Courier" service that isn't really "Private Courier" at all. The marketing of his "distribution" mechanism is somewhat misleading.

Ah great so is there now some problem getting it from a? Has anyone actually got any recently.

 

[Mopey]

Some of you mentioned comas?

the figures i saw were not a 100% i.e. not as lethal as hanging done roght, its possible for the correct dosage to not kill you and leave in a coma? (i ask becaise the effects of drugs individual to indicidual seem more variable than the affect of stopping bloodflow to the brain)

 

[creationisdeath]

Some of you mentioned comas?

the figures i saw were not a 100% i.e. not as lethal as hanging done roght, its possible for the correct dosage to not kill you and leave in a coma? (i ask becaise the effects of drugs individual to indicidual seem more variable than the affect of stopping bloodflow to the brain)

It has been stated that N inevitably results in death after a certain amount of time (like an hour or so). I don't know why that is medically though. Or if it's true for that matter.

(I mean that after a certain time death is certain, even if some cases are still alive for many hours)

 

[Chinaski]

Some of you mentioned comas?

the figures i saw were not a 100% i.e. not as lethal as hanging done roght, its possible for the correct dosage to not kill you and leave in a coma? (i ask becaise the effects of drugs individual to indicidual seem more variable than the affect of stopping bloodflow to the brain)

I think this depends on when you're discovered, if people are found within twelve hours then yes, they'll be in a coma in a hospital bed for a long time. The same applies to hanging; get rescued, you'll be placed in an induced come to ease pressure on the brain.

Coma is just a part of the process, which is 'conscious > unconscious > dead', basically.

 

[ctrl_alt_delete]

Did you go with private courier? What payment method did you use? I am in the uk as well!

Yes, and I used WU @Broken

This is my full report. The only thing I can add to this is that it would appear that my anti-ems have been seized. I hope this is of some use to you.

 

[Arak]

So how long ago was the last package sent?

According to A, it would be sent on Saturday 5 January. When that turned out to be incorrect, a date that was a bit later. I was promised a tracking number, nothing as of yet. That's when I decided to post.

 

[ctrl_alt_delete]

Regarding drinking down the N with any sort of before/after chaser - OK, here's my stupidity showing again, no doubt - can the N be mixed with alcohol to start with? I mean, since we're talking about chasing it with alcohol, why not just mix the two together and drink that down? ...I like the cotton ball up the nose and ice cubes to numb the tongue - great ideas! :-)

I've wondered about the same things. I'm planning on mixing it with good brandy or Chambord and an imperial f**k-tonne of sugar (which won't increase the bulk of liquid). I like the ice cubes & cotton wool idea!

I will certainly make sure I've eliminated anything before I take the N, but there could still be an accident anyway, aside from vomit, and any of that would be smelly. I hope not, don't want to be a messy corpse, just not dignified.

I'm planning on performing an enema on myself prior to the event. The idea of bring found messy fills me with not inconsiderable horror; probably go for a maxi-strength absorbent pad too.

 

[Broken]

Yes, and I used WU @Broken

This is my full report. The only thing I can add to this is that it would appear that my anti-ems have been seized. I hope this is of some use to you.

Thanks for your response!

 

[Goldenwolf]

The acid regulators are for SN, not N. A box should be enough, even plenty

Hello, would one box be enough for 2 people?

 

[Goldenwolf]

Dear All.

Have rec'd N from A.

* * *

All communications took place on a VPN via protonmail. I opened a new account specifically for this purpose. I assured A that all data in this account would be deleted and the account itself deactivated after our transaction was complete. This satisfied A.

A responds within a 24 hour period. They never push. I like that they are informative and discrete.

Found A to be polite and courteous throughout. They seem to appreciate the same in return. I had to delay our transaction for a couple of weeks; A had no problem with this

Ordered 2 bottles, to be delivered by private courier to a European address. I think I understand now how the private courier works and would recommend it.

Sent money via WU. No problems - used cash and govt issued ID. Incremental fluctuations in value of dollar did not affect overall price. WU charges seem steep however; I'd bring an extra $50 if you want to avoid using your cards to make up the balance.

Attended WU dressed smartly and soberly, with extra anti-d's on board. I suspect this is where alarm-bells can be rung. Used a story about "some idiot nephew of mine who's run out of money on holiday and needs to get home for Christmas". Everyone was very helpful.

WU sent an email that my ID was not recognised. I went to their website and saw no flag-up in that regard. I decided to sit on this for a day or two, since I knew my ID was good. Within 24 hours A had confirmed receipt of payment, as did WU. I think this was the most nervous I found myself.

A gave me a timeline for when they would dispatch the product, and when I would likely receive it. It was very difficult to restrain myself from asking for updates, but managed to do so. Product arrived two weeks later. I have delayed posting this news for a few days to avoid possible timeline flags.

* * *

Of course, I still don't know 100% that the product in the bottles is N. However I am taking A on reputation. The complete lack of people who have taken A's product and who then come back to this site to say they've been ripped off speaks volumes. Soon I will know.

Now I am spending some months cutting all ties to people whom I love. I hope that this will cushion the emotional impact for them. This will be my sole social media site from here on in; this is ethically acceptable, given that we all know why we are here.

* * *

Peace.

Thanks for this valuable information! You have given me hope.

 

[onegoodreason]

I've wondered about the same things. I'm planning on mixing it with good brandy or Chambord and an imperial f**k-tonne of sugar (which won't increase the bulk of liquid). I like the ice cubes & cotton wool idea!

That sounds good, ctrl_alt_delete! I like brandy, but it doesn't like me much. Had a bottle of E&J brandy recently and though I did finish it off, it made me itch really bad. I think I really can't drink much anymore, but for this, I will!!! And Love it while it's going down! Sugar does make the medicine go down (so says Mary Poppins! ;-)) but, eeks, if it's a lot, wouldn't it be soooo sweet you might not get it down? Or you have a very intense sweet tooth! Good luck however you do it!

I'm planning on performing an enema on myself prior to the event. The idea of bring found messy fills me with not inconsiderable horror; probably go for a maxi-strength absorbent pad too.

That hadn't even crossed my mind. Maybe a good idea to do that. I haven't had an enema since I was a kid and hated them, as you could well imagine. Won't go into the details of why, just very unpleasant. It probably would be a good idea in this circumstance, but I don't know if I could bring myself to do it. A good maxi-strength pad is a good idea, too. Will add that to my list of necessary items.

Be well. Peace.

 

[Arak]

@Jackd,

I'm not going to get into an argument. I'm just reporting my experience. For whatever reason my original package was not sent.