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tomz323

tomz323

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Mar 29, 2019
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Anyone know about ordering N from A to New Zealand?
 
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rata1

Arcanist
May 8, 2019
448
Well i've seen some people ordering through Western Union a couple days ago and it went smooth i think.
But if it was a, himself telling you that then maybe there is something going on.

well this is probable....
 
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dolphin

aquatic thing
Feb 7, 2019
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Another question from me, I'm asking a lot at the moment, sorry. I'm thinking of buying bitcoin using LocalBitcoins.com, which has a wallet as part of the account you sign up to. It says you can then use the wallet to buy goods and send bitcoins to pay for stuff etc. Anyone have any experience with this and specifically sending payment to A? Could I also set up a wallet with a provider A suggests and transfer bitcoin from LocalBitcoin to that wallet? I'm using LocalBitcoin because I want to pay with cash which you can do on there.

Yes, i simply used the local bitcoins wallet to send it to A. I didn't bother setting up another wallet.
 
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May 5, 2019
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Yes, i simply used the local bitcoins wallet to send it to A. I didn't bother setting up another wallet.
Thanks for your reply, that's really helpful. Did you buy recently?
 
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fisil

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Mar 9, 2019
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I read only success storys. Anyone else unlucky and waiting far more than a moth for his N?
 
ihtgatw

ihtgatw

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Jun 1, 2019
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Does A ships N to Brazil? I was thinking about ctb with N or SN, but here is way easy to get SN.
 
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Honigwaffel

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Apr 9, 2019
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So I decided to give you guys a final update, even though I at first I wasn't going to. I don't want to discourage anyone, but here it goes nothing.

I contacted A more than 8 weeks ago and ordered two bottles via private courier to germany. I used Bitcoin to pay. Communication went well, package was sent a few days later. It arrived within 8 days at the german airport and tracking did not update for almost a week after that. Then I got a letter from my local customs office, claiming that there are issues with the package and it needed to be picked up. I went to the customs office, opened the package right infront of the officer. They inspected the bottles and did not find anything suspicious, however they demanded a proof of value, which I obviously couldn't provide. So the first package was seized three weeks after I ordered.

I contacted A a second time asking if he can send another package. He gave me a significant discount and the package was sent a week later. It arrived within 7 days to germany, got through customs without any problems and was sceduled for delivery on a wednesday. So I took the day off, waited at home - nothing. Tracking says that it coudln't be delivered and is ready for pickup at a post office. To cut things short, the package was lost, most probably stolen. That was week 5 after the first contact.

So I wrote yet another email to A, ordered a third time. Third time's a charme, right? He sent the package with a delay of one and a half weeks. Got to germany no problem, however tracking says that it is stuck at a parcel center right now. Tracking did not update for more than a week. At this point I accept that the package was lost again. I contacted the local postal service, they said it can take a few month to find the package.

A offered me to send a 4th package for free. But I can't wait any longer. I wrote more than 40 emails to A, almost always got a response within 24 hours. In rare cases up to two days. A is legit and very helpful, however the logistics has been a nightmare for me. I will be going with my backup plan, the exitbag now.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.
 
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LifeIsNotFun

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Jun 1, 2019
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So I decided to give you guys a final update, even though I at first I wasn't going to. I don't want to discourage anyone, but here it goes nothing.

I contacted A more than 8 weeks ago and ordered two bottles via private courier to germany. I used Bitcoin to pay. Communication went well, package was sent a few days later. It arrived within 8 days at the german airport and tracking did not update for almost a week after that. Then I got a letter from my local customs office, claiming that there are issues with the package and it needed to be picked up. I went to the customs office, opened the package right infront of the officer. They inspected the bottles and did not find anything suspicious, however they demanded a proof of value, which I obviously couldn't provide. So the first package was seized three weeks after I ordered.

I contacted A a second time asking if he can send another package. He gave me a significant discount and the package was sent a week later. It arrived within 7 days to germany, got through customs without any problems and was sceduled for delivery on a wednesday. So I took the day off, waited at home - nothing. Tracking says that it coudln't be delivered and is ready for pickup at a post office. To cut things short, the package was lost, most probably stolen. That was week 5 after the first contact.

So I wrote yet another email to A, ordered a third time. Third time's a charme, right? He sent the package with a delay of one and a half weeks. Got to germany no problem, however tracking says that it is stuck at a parcel center right now. Tracking did not update for more than a week. At this point I accept that the package was lost again. I contacted the local postal service, they said it can take a few month to find the package.

A offered me to send a 4th package for free. But I can't wait any longer. I wrote more than 40 emails to A, almost always got a response within 24 hours. In rare cases up to two days. A is legit and very helpful, however the logistics has been a nightmare for me. I will be going with my backup plan, the exitbag now.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.
I'm sorry you went through all that. That is really frustrating. I heard German customs are very strict, and can be very annoying. I am currently in Canada, and hope to order N from A soon, and hopefully my process goes smoother than yours. I think it just depends on luck, and to whichever country A is sending to, and what their customs are like and so on.
 
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Darkhaven

Darkhaven

All i have left is memories
May 19, 2019
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So I decided to give you guys a final update, even though I at first I wasn't going to. I don't want to discourage anyone, but here it goes nothing.

I contacted A more than 8 weeks ago and ordered two bottles via private courier to germany. I used Bitcoin to pay. Communication went well, package was sent a few days later. It arrived within 8 days at the german airport and tracking did not update for almost a week after that. Then I got a letter from my local customs office, claiming that there are issues with the package and it needed to be picked up. I went to the customs office, opened the package right infront of the officer. They inspected the bottles and did not find anything suspicious, however they demanded a proof of value, which I obviously couldn't provide. So the first package was seized three weeks after I ordered.

I contacted A a second time asking if he can send another package. He gave me a significant discount and the package was sent a week later. It arrived within 7 days to germany, got through customs without any problems and was sceduled for delivery on a wednesday. So I took the day off, waited at home - nothing. Tracking says that it coudln't be delivered and is ready for pickup at a post office. To cut things short, the package was lost, most probably stolen. That was week 5 after the first contact.

So I wrote yet another email to A, ordered a third time. Third time's a charme, right? He sent the package with a delay of one and a half weeks. Got to germany no problem, however tracking says that it is stuck at a parcel center right now. Tracking did not update for more than a week. At this point I accept that the package was lost again. I contacted the local postal service, they said it can take a few month to find the package.

A offered me to send a 4th package for free. But I can't wait any longer. I wrote more than 40 emails to A, almost always got a response within 24 hours. In rare cases up to two days. A is legit and very helpful, however the logistics has been a nightmare for me. I will be going with my backup plan, the exitbag now.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.

Man that is so infuriating.
I'm sorry you had to waste all that money and still got nothing plus all adding that to the stress and anxiety of not receiving the package.
Had they called me to go there i wouldn't have the courage. They would surely ask me what was it i had ordered and i would be discovered then and there.
 
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Darkhaven

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May 19, 2019
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So I decided to give you guys a final update, even though I at first I wasn't going to. I don't want to discourage anyone, but here it goes nothing.

I contacted A more than 8 weeks ago and ordered two bottles via private courier to germany. I used Bitcoin to pay. Communication went well, package was sent a few days later. It arrived within 8 days at the german airport and tracking did not update for almost a week after that. Then I got a letter from my local customs office, claiming that there are issues with the package and it needed to be picked up. I went to the customs office, opened the package right infront of the officer. They inspected the bottles and did not find anything suspicious, however they demanded a proof of value, which I obviously couldn't provide. So the first package was seized three weeks after I ordered.

I contacted A a second time asking if he can send another package. He gave me a significant discount and the package was sent a week later. It arrived within 7 days to germany, got through customs without any problems and was sceduled for delivery on a wednesday. So I took the day off, waited at home - nothing. Tracking says that it coudln't be delivered and is ready for pickup at a post office. To cut things short, the package was lost, most probably stolen. That was week 5 after the first contact.

So I wrote yet another email to A, ordered a third time. Third time's a charme, right? He sent the package with a delay of one and a half weeks. Got to germany no problem, however tracking says that it is stuck at a parcel center right now. Tracking did not update for more than a week. At this point I accept that the package was lost again. I contacted the local postal service, they said it can take a few month to find the package.

A offered me to send a 4th package for free. But I can't wait any longer. I wrote more than 40 emails to A, almost always got a response within 24 hours. In rare cases up to two days. A is legit and very helpful, however the logistics has been a nightmare for me. I will be going with my backup plan, the exitbag now.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask away.
In regards to the second package: if it got through the costums how did it got lost?
Were you given some explanation for that?
And here I was thinkinh that once it got through the costums it was done....
 
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Vidar33

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In one of his first mails A specifically pointed out, that tracking the parcel is not a good idea.

How about you order one more time and just do nothing (no tracking from your side) but wait...
 
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Maxim

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May 29, 2019
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I have a question. Did someone have experience with N ordered from D ? Which one is reilable ? A or D ? Is maybe another source in europe somewhere, middle or east, from some vet ? Thank you.
 
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Darkhaven

All i have left is memories
May 19, 2019
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I have a question. Did someone have experience with N ordered from D ? Which one is reilable ? A or D ? Is maybe another source in europe somewhere, middle or east, from some vet ? Thank you.
Never heard of D.
I think A is the only reliable source.
 
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Maxim

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May 29, 2019
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Never heard of D.
I think A is the only reliable source.
Thank you. The problem is that he is also only 90 % reliable due to the customs. Maybe we should find out some vet in east europe, maybe russia. In europe euthasol are used for the same aim as N. It contains pentobarbital sodium (barbituric acid derivative), and phenytoin sodium; I am worried because the phenytoin sodium. Can it makes this less peaceful ? I know, I asked it once before. Thank you .
 
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Honigwaffel

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In regards to the second package: if it got through the costums how did it got lost?
Were you given some explanation for that?
And here I was thinkinh that once it got through the costums it was done....
The second package didn't get delivered the day it was scheduled. That's pretty normal and it happened before. Basically the delivery guy has too many packages for that day and simply can not make it in time. The package then gets to a local shop where it can be picked up the next day. However the shop, it was supposed to be in, never got hold of it.
I contacted the support hotline and they said that it is very likely that the parcel was stolen. Smaller packages with these kind of labels are quite lucrative for thiefs. There is nothing I can do about it.

In one of his first mails A specifically pointed out, that tracking the parcel is not a good idea.

How about you order one more time and just do nothing (no tracking from your side) but wait...
A said that is it more likely for the parcel to get though customs if you don't request the tracking number. I think it doesn't really matter. I tracked all three packages right away and 2/3 got through customs.

Yes I could wait and suffer for maybe a month or two (I would get the 4th package basically for free), waiting for the possibilty that I get it. But I can't anymore, I simply can't take it any longer.
 
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HannibalLector

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Jul 5, 2018
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They inspected the bottles and did not find anything suspicious, however they demanded a proof of value, which I obviously couldn't provide. So the first package was seized three weeks after I ordered.

To avoid get package seized from this inconvenience, would it be possible to agree on market value for similar goods and pay their customs tariffs?
 
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Honigwaffel

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To avoid get package seized from this inconvenience, would it be possible to agree on market value for similar goods and pay their customs tariffs?
Yes in theory that can work. I'm positive that I would've gotten the first package if I was able to proove that value and payed taxes. However you have to keep in mind that it is a faked product so it would be hard to find any references for it.
You can ask the officers to search for similar products, but it's risky because they have to examine the bottles closely and search for it in their databases. I simply didn't want to risk an investigation.

If you ask me it would be best for A to open a fake shop where you can purchase via paypal and attach a commercial invoice to the package. In that case german customs would almost approve it 100%.
 
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Shamana

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May 31, 2019
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Anyone have any experience in ordering to Scandinavia or just Denmark(in my case). I honestly can't see how it would make it through customs. Especially if it's ordered outside the EU. Nearly all my packages sent from within the EU containing drugs or meds have been seized.
 
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Maxim

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Anyone heard about one order N from A to Serbia or Hungary ? Thanks.
 
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Darkhaven

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May 19, 2019
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In my country it'a total gamble, some get holded of some pass. I m in Southwestern Europe.
As far as i know the bigger the package the higher the chance it will be seized.
I didn't know that A changed the labels, that's really neat, and it can help, but i still think it will get seized here because they desperately want to collect them taxes.
Unless people can prove that the price was below 22 euros, they will have to pay it.
I wouldn't mind pay the taxes as long as I get the product, what deters me from ordering it is the crime i committs if caught. There is a big fine to pay and a possible jail setence, even though that can be put aside considering the circunstances in which people would order it.
 
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Vidar33

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Yes in theory that can work. I'm positive that I would've gotten the first package if I was able to proove that value and payed taxes. However you have to keep in mind that it is a faked product so it would be hard to find any references for it.
You can ask the officers to search for similar products, but it's risky because they have to examine the bottles closely and search for it in their databases. I simply didn't want to risk an investigation.

If you ask me it would be best for A to open a fake shop where you can purchase via paypal and attach a commercial invoice to the package. In that case german customs would almost approve it 100%.

Opening a fake shop and using paypal would probably be far too difficult: domain registration, paypal identification ecc.

I know from a few successful deliveries to eastern European countries.
 
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Do any of you use your actual names for the shipping label for the package or fake ones?
 
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