Method Maximizing effectiveness of plan? (intraoral gunshot 9mm JHP)

[droain]

I have a Glock 19 with 124gr 9mm hollow points, and I'm planning on shooting myself through the roof of the mouth, aiming for the brain stem at a 45 degree angle as I've seen recommended on here. I haven't been to the range in years, but I've practiced dry-firing and checking the angle in the bathroom, where I have a tri-view medicine cabinet mirror, making it easier to see the profile of my head. I think I have the angle down, I even got a picture of an old MRI of my head to use as a reference, but I'll make sure to practice more in the days leading up to my attempt.

I'd prefer a shotgun, but I live with family, so I don't have an easy way of acquiring a shotgun and hiding it, plus the house is rarely ever empty. A major fear that's still holding me back is that I'll pull the trigger but somehow mess up the angle just enough that I survive because someone in the house calls emergency services, and they arrive quick enough to intervene before I bleed to death or drown in my own blood. I live in a major metropolitan area and I don't have a car, so driving out into the woods is tricky.

I could just wait for a day when the stars align and my relatives are all out of the house, though I don't know how long that'll take and the sooner I get this over with, the better. I'm hoping to do it in the bathroom where I have the mirror to confirm the angle, so I was also thinking of barricading the bathroom door to buy myself more time, but it'd be hard to do discreetly. Or should I buy a portable 3-way mirror, try to find a relatively isolated area within Uber-able distance (maybe one with a body of water?), and do it out there? Or do that but at a hotel or motel, and barricade the door? Are there any other things I might be overlooking in my plan?

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Outside would be better. That room will need to be deep cleaned

 

[Bad Karma]

i'm in a similar situation where i have access to a gun but a lack of privacy or alone time to make sure i can execute my plan without intervention. i live in an extremely dense area and very close to emergency services so i worry they may save me before im fully gone. im interested to see what advice others have. and i hope you find what you're looking for on here and find peace one way or another <3

 

[U. A.]

Intraoral is not the way.

 

[droain]

Outside would be better. That room will need to be deep cleaned

I was leaning towards that. It may take a bit more time to find a secluded enough area and make arrangements to get there, but I only have one proper shot at this if I get everything right.

i'm in a similar situation where i have access to a gun but a lack of privacy or alone time to make sure i can execute my plan without intervention. i live in an extremely dense area and very close to emergency services so i worry they may save me before im fully gone. im interested to see what advice others have. and i hope you find what you're looking for on here and find peace one way or another <3

Thank you. I wish the same for you as well.

Intraoral is not the way.

Would you be able to elaborate? I know above the ear through the parietal bone is another way that's discussed on here, but I'm not as confident about getting the placement right.

 

[dalemar]

Cant you rent a car? Or take bus to a park outside the city?

 

[wordsoutb4sumnelsin]

Cant you rent a car? Or take bus to a park outside the city?

Indeed. I'm "getting into camping/backpacking" for a reason

 

[Liebestod]

Would you be able to elaborate? I know above the ear through the parietal bone is another way that's discussed on here, but I'm not as confident about getting the placement right.

When you aim in the mouth with a low or medium caliber round like a 9mm, the chances of the bullet ricocheting or fragmenting increase because of bone obstruction (ie the maxilla). The maxilla is a strong bone and has the potential to cause low energy bullets to ricochet and miss the target or fragment completely. Above the ear however has little to no bone obstruction to the brain. Meaning if the bullet has enough energy to penetrate the skull the bullet will inevitably pass through the brain. This isn't guaranteed with Intraoral or submental unless you are using high velocity rounds (like rifle calibers) or if you use a shotgun in the mouth. In practice with a 9mm Intraoral shot there is a great chance you'll die but this brain stem obsession on this forum can lead people to taking a risk that they might not take if they are aware of the differences in ballistic trajectories between temporal shots (side of the head) and Intraoral shots. One may argue that if you shoot from the side of the head you might not hit the brainstem however the brainstem may still be obliterated by the hot expansive gases that go into the brain during contact shot. Also there are multiple factors that cause immediate death with a headshot. With some being cerebral hemorrhaging, hydrostatic shock, and massive blood loss, as well as the literal destruction and liquidation of brain tissue.

 

[wordsoutb4sumnelsin]

When you aim in the mouth with a low or medium caliber round like a 9mm, the chances of the bullet ricocheting or fragmenting increase because of bone obstruction (ie the maxilla). The maxilla is a strong bone and has the potential to cause low energy bullets to ricochet and miss the target or fragment completely. Above the ear however has little to no bone obstruction to the brain. Meaning if the bullet has enough energy to penetrate the skull the bullet will inevitably pass through the brain. This isn't guaranteed with Intraoral or submental unless you are using high velocity rounds (like rifle calibers) or if you use a shotgun in the mouth. In practice with a 9mm Intraoral shot there is a great chance you'll die but this brain stem obsession on this forum can lead people to taking a risk that they might not take if they are aware of the differences in ballistic trajectories between temporal shots (side of the head) and Intraoral shots. One may argue that if you shoot from the side of the head you might not hit the brainstem however the brainstem may still be obliterated by the hot expansive gases that go into the brain during contact shot. Also there are multiple factors that cause immediate death with a headshot. With some being cerebral hemorrhaging, hydrostatic shock, and massive blood loss, as well as the literal destruction and liquidation of brain tissue.

Much appreciated, hadn't heard of maxilla being an issue. Good extra consideration.

Just sucks so bad to have to consider aiming at all, and so much ultimately hope for physics to go our way

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i'm going to write something that might upset some so don't read if sensitive

imo using a shotgun or high powered rifle and putting hitting any part of the skull near the middle even the edge but not grazing shot , but even a grazing shot would imo explode the head . no one is going to be able to stop that no matter where i am . see Ronnie Mcnut (rifle) , Blev gorablev (shotgun) , shuaiby ( shotgun) many others on watchpeopledie other gore sites or herman the shocker.

a 150 grain bullet travelling at 3000 fps . imo no land animal can survive if hit near the middle of the head. same for 12 gauge shotgun slug.

a bullet traveling almost 90% of a kilometer in one second nothing is going to survive that if hit in the head