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KatieW

KatieW

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What I gather from this and threads here is most got to suicidal point via ill treatment or omission by others? My circumstances are pure spontaneous bad luck. Illness. Noone's doing.
 
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Redt2go

Redt2go

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What I gather from this and threads here is most got to suicidal point via ill treatment or omission by others? My circumstances are pure spontaneous bad luck. Illness. Noone's doing.
For most yeah. Mine is actually the opposite lol. I'm the one who treated people like shit due to my illness
 
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FTL.Wanderer

FTL.Wanderer

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One of my favorite articles of 2019 so far. Absolutely brilliant. The least society can do in recognition that children do NOT ask to be born is allow every human being a universal right to a painless, quick death. That should be an immediate birthright. I also agree that many children are born because other people want to experience pleasure (physical, emotional...). That's no justification for forcing those who don't want to be here to stay here. And the great irony is the world doesn't even WANT most suicidal people. Yet it also won't let us leave.
 
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Manaaja

Manaaja

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They make u get a license for everything else, why not kids? Oh because it would probably discriminate too many people lol! I'm not saying these people would never be ready to have kids but maybe some degree of oversight would be good lol!

I couldn't agree more! We need a law: "No kids, if your IQ isn't at least 100!". Funny thing, science says people with IQ of 90 are much more likely to have and get sex than people with IQ of 120+.
 
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FTL.Wanderer

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I couldn't agree more! We need a law: "No kids, if your IQ isn't at least 100!". Funny thing, science says people with IQ of 90 are much more likely to have and get sex than people with IQ of 120+.

I laughed so hard and long reading this I'm actually feeling good enough to get out of bed now. Thank you. :)
 
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JWL

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Jan 15, 2019
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I'd like to sue my parents for misrepresenting themselves as parents...


For the record, I'm not condemning my parents and certainly not for any intentional abuse issues. Just they should never have been together and screwed up all their kids with their almost constant fighting, hostility and violence. Like all of us, they were what they were, products of their very hard times. But at the end of the day, it's NEVER a great idea for parents who intensely dislike each other to stay together 'for the kids'. Bugger off and give the kids a peaceful and stress-free life.
 
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MiserableBastard1995

MiserableBastard1995

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Mar 17, 2018
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Well,
What I gather from this and threads here is most got to suicidal point via ill treatment or omission by others? My circumstances are pure spontaneous bad luck. Illness. Noone's doing.
Agreed. To be totally fair, the only thing one could reasonably fault my parents for, is reproducing in the first place. Beyond that, they've really been wonderful parents.
 
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borntodie777

borntodie777

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Jan 1, 2019
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Parents sue him back for being a pain in the butt and it becomes a sue circle that eventually breaks reality
 
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KatieW

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Parents sue him back for being a pain in the butt and it becomes a sue circle that eventually breaks reality
:) I think the reasonable counter for being born without consent is the right to die with dignity and painlessly. Until the unborn can give consent it's a pointless debate.
 
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:) I think the reasonable counter for being born without consent is the right to die with dignity and painlessly. Until the unborn can give consent it's a pointless debate.

Agree wholeheartedly, if no one asks us when we are born, why stop us when we are trying to die?

It's an act that doesn't affect anyone else physically. Emotionally, sure but it's short term and they come to terms with it eventually anyway.

If life is miserable for you and you have tried and exhausted several options, the next best step is just to die for peace.

The guy in the article just sounds like a butthurt teen though.
 
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KatieW

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The guy in the article just sounds like a butthurt teen though.

Uh? he has loads of selfless empathy. Few would raise such issues or defend the right to die until they are personally in the mess. I'm proof of that as most here would be.
 
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borntodie777

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Uh? he has loads of selfless empathy. Few would raise such issues or defend the right to die until they are personally in the mess. I'm proof of that as most here would be.
Guess that's true, he is trying something new which is good. A step in the right direction

Would be nice if it starts a trend over there or atleast if it gets people talking
 
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Dec 11, 2018
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I couldn't agree more! We need a law: "No kids, if your IQ isn't at least 100!". Funny thing, science says people with IQ of 90 are much more likely to have and get sex than people with IQ of 120+.
Damn.... I'm too smart to get laid :-(
 
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KatieW

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Guess that's true, he is trying something new which is good. A step in the right direction

Would be nice if it starts a trend over there or atleast if it gets people talking
No, antinatalism is not "something new" at all, it's a concept as old as mankind. That's the general trouble with progress: those in need of, say, assisted suicide, have no might to push through the change. Those in need of welfare or some socialism have little power to act. Etc. I wish human beings were less selfish and more evolved.

Would it surprise you to find the most poor (or vulnerable to unhappiness) are also the most vehemently against assisted suicide?
 
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Would it surprise you to find the most poor (or vulnerable to unhappiness) are also the most vehemently against assisted suicide?

Nope, not surprising at all. Also the most religious/superstitious which plays a very big role in allowing people to commit suicide if they so wish. The exceptions maybe Hinduism and Buddhism. Hope is a powerful thing and that's what poor people have in abundance.
 
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Damn.... I'm too smart to get laid :-(
Evolutionary
Nope, not surprising at all. Also the most religious/superstitious which plays a very big role in allowing people to commit suicide if they so wish. The exceptions maybe Hinduism and Buddhism. Hope is a powerful thing and that's what poor people have in abundance.
Hope and ignorance.
 
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Love your avatar @borntodie777 hope it's a true likeness of you :love::love:
 
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Hope and ignorance.
That's not always a given, a lot of fairly well educated people who know how the world works also hope and pray for a range of things. As I said Hope is such a powerful concept, its expectation of things getting better some other day by sacrificing to gods, fasting, praying but never working on the problems at hand



Love your avatar @borntodie777 hope it's a true likeness of you :love::love:

Haha, yep I am indeed a smug green frog-man, it's really nice to meet you and your avatar is pretty as well :smiling::happy:
 
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That's not always a given, a lot of fairly well educated people who know how the world works also hope and pray for a range of things. As I said Hope is such a powerful concept, its expectation of things getting better some other day by sacrificing to gods, fasting, praying but never working on the problems at hand

Ignorance 101
 
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I thought it was a joke but I was wrong. I don't know what way that would go down when in court
 
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