Long term effects of SN?

[HellLife2]

What are the possible long term complications from SN if you are found or if it doesn't work completely?

SA for sure 99% cases it works

But what if SN doesn't work you're found or it doesn't work out. Have real bad effects been described afterwards in medical journals?

Is 2 tablespoons of SN = 30g of SN?

 

[Lethe]

Cancer, it is carcinogenic.

 

[HellLife2]

Already knew that one. But SA can cause blindness, brain damage, heart problems long term. It destroys everything.

Can you get brain damage with SN?

 

[Thanatos]

Not sure about effects but 2 tablespoons is closer to 25g

 

[HellLife2]

Not sure about effects but 2 tablespoons is closer to 25g

Online converters say 1 tablespoon of table salt is 17g

 

[Stan]

Online converters say 1 tablespoon of table salt is 17g

Different weights. A tablespoon of lead is different to a tablespoon of feathers

What are the possible long term complications from SN if you are found or if it doesn't work completely?

I would suggest there a risks with all methods. Only devising your plan, executing it properly and not being found as a key part of that plan would mitigate all of those risks.

 

[HellLife2]

Different weights. A tablespoon of lead is different to a tablespoon of feathers

I would suggest there a risks with all methods. Only devising your plan, executing it properly and not being found as a key part of that plan would mitigate all of those risks.

So you agree 2 tablespoons is 25g of SN? Course salt is 13.2 g per tablespoon while table salt is 17g per table spoon. I guess SN is more similar to course salt?

Is there anyway I can verify this online

 

[AlmostFinished]

The SN converts blood into methemoglobin, when enough is taken and the body is not vomited it is unable to restore it. The tissues need blood, if they do not have it, they eventually die. So answering your question, it is possible that on a day of bad luck you will be found and "saved" in time and had some damage from the destruction of the tissues. I am not able to venture the magnitude of that damage.

I am not a doctor, everything I say is according to my research and SN is my method.

 

[woxihuanni]

The SN converts blood into methemoglobin, when enough is taken and the body is not vomited it is unable to restore it. The tissues need blood, if they do not have it, they eventually die. So answering your question, it is possible that on a day of bad luck you will be found and "saved" in time and had some damage from the destruction of the tissues. I am not able to venture the magnitude of that damage.

I am not a doctor, everything I say is according to my research and SN is my method.

It's just that nobody has got tissue damage to our knowledge. For some reason, SN is not like CO or hanging or whatnot, quite reversible.

Don't say these things, my guts are fucking wrenching. Lord somebody wake me, it's got to be a nightmare.

 

[AlmostFinished]

It's just that nobody has got tissue damage to our knowledge. For some reason, SN is not like CO or hanging or whatnot, quite reversible.

Don't say these things, my guts are fucking wrenching. Lord somebody wake me, it's got to be a nightmare.

I have not known of any case either, or people who died or people who recovered completely. However, I have only written about the repercussions of the destruction of body tissues.
CO or suspension do not have the same effects on the body. Suspension restricts oxygen / blood to the brain, which causes you to die. Or worse, it restricts the air to the lungs, which causes you to suffocate.
CO is more similar, although its effect is "to poison" the blood and that blood circulates throughout the body. I don't know people with permanent damage either with that method.

As I said, SN is my method, I will take it next Friday if it arrives on time. I hope it works but SN is a toxic and can cause serious damage, causes death!

 

[HellLife2]

This guy ingested 75g of SN. Got saved and had no complications. https://casereports.bmj.com/content/2014/bcr-2014-204825

 

[Lethe]

So you agree 2 tablespoons is 25g of SN? Course salt is 13.2 g per tablespoon while table salt is 17g per table spoon. I guess SN is more similar to course salt?

Is there anyway I can verify this online

Density of sodium chloride is 2.16 g/cm^3
Density of sodium nitrite is 2.17 g/cm^3

So pretty close.

 

[Stan]

This guy ingested 75g of SN. Got saved and had no complications. https://casereports.bmj.com/content/2014/bcr-2014-204825

its a real medical report so no doubt that it is a statement of fact. Look at the missing data. How do you accidentally ingest that amount? What was the time between him doing it and medical support being given. Some facts are good but all the facts are better.

 

[AlmostFinished]

This guy ingested 75g of SN. Got saved and had no complications. https://casereports.bmj.com/content/2014/bcr-2014-204825

He took sodium nitrate, not SN. Nitrate is SN oxidized by air, much more harmless.

 

[Stan]

He took sodium nitrate, not SN. Nitrate is SN oxidized by air, much more harmless.

Good eyes!

 

[HellLife2]

Density of sodium chloride is 2.16 g/cm^3
Density of sodium nitrite is 2.17 g/cm^3

So pretty close.

I don't know how to do those equations to tablespoon. But if it equals out to 12.5g SN per tablespoon then 2.5 tablespoons = 31 grams of SN

He took sodium nitrate, not SN. Nitrate is SN oxidized by air, much more harmless.

You're right I didn't notice that.

I know Sodium Azide can cause blindness. This scares me from a report on SN "Sodium nitrite/ is irritating to the eyes." https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757

 

[Lethe]

Using the density formula Volume= Mass/Density,

25g SN = 0.0115207 L

According to an online calculator, this is equal to 0.78 tablespoons

 

[HellLife2]

Using the density formula Volume= Mass/Density,

25g SN = 0.0115207 L

According to an online calculator, this is equal to 0.78 tablespoons

That's hard to believe considering how much people put in all those capsules they take? No way 25g of SN is not even 1 tablespoon. An electronic scale might be the only way to know for sure.

 

[Lethe]

I agree, best to measure it out with a scale.

 

[Roger]

A simple electronic digital kitchen scale can be bought in UK for less than twenty quid, so why not just buy one and remove all doubts about bloody spoons ?

 

[Stan]

One of the reasons why i have mainly stopped contributing to SN threads these days, even though its the way I am going to go, is the amazing complexity people keep piling on a real simple process. The PPH does not help with adding bits of recommendations to the regimen which annoys me. But really, some of the questions, theories, additions, repeat questions makes this look like NASA plan to put the man back on the moon. For God's sake, only this week a young woman picked up a glass of the stuff, chugged it down and is no longer with us without doing any regimen.

 

[woxihuanni]

One of the reasons why i have mainly stopped contributing to SN threads these days, even though its the way I am going to go, is the amazing complexity people keep piling on a real simple process. The PPH does not help with adding bits of recommendations to the regimen which annoys me that does not help. But really, some of the questions, theories, additions, repeat questions makes this look like NASA plan to put the man back on the moon. For God's sake, only this week a young woman picked up a glass of the stuff, chugged it down and is no longer with us without doing any regimen.

In a way, I think I understand. It's fucking terrifying and any sense of control over it is lapped up. Fascinating to see these procedures produce idioms and jargon, as well.

 

[Stan]

In a way, I think I understand. It's fucking terrifying and any sense of control over it is lapped up. Fascinating to see these procedures produce idioms and jargon, as well.

Of course it's terrifying, and it should well be. But quite frankly looking at the SN megathread, 90% or more is an absolute waste of space. And a new thread about SN is started everyday with the same questions. Can I hurt myself trying to end my life? Seriously??? You are not booking yourself in for a spa day. Rant over

 

[HellLife2]

One of the reasons why i have mainly stopped contributing to SN threads these days, even though its the way I am going to go, is the amazing complexity people keep piling on a real simple process. The PPH does not help with adding bits of recommendations to the regimen which annoys me. But really, some of the questions, theories, additions, repeat questions makes this look like NASA plan to put the man back on the moon. For God's sake, only this week a young woman picked up a glass of the stuff, chugged it down and is no longer with us without doing any regimen.

What about the risks of brain injury if found? That's scary. Eye irritation is possible.

Do you trust the PPH timeline for SN ingestion?

 

[Stan]

What about the risks of brain injury if found? That's scary. Eye irritation is possible.

Do you trust the PPH timeline for SN ingestion?

If people have doubts about this method, don't do it. Find one that you have no doubts with. You go into any enterprise with the element of doubt and I will show you a possible reason why it failed.

 

[snowman626]

If i open the original bottle and measure out 15g of the SN and put it into a little jar and close it really tight would it be ok or will the exposure to air turn it into nitrate? I wanna be able to easily take it with me to travel into the wilderness.

 

[HellLife2]

If people have doubts about this method, don't do it. Find one that you have no doubts with. You go into any enterprise with the element of doubt and I will show you a possible reason why it failed.

Everything else has even greater risks IMO. Other than N which is probably what is used for Euthanasia in many countries across the world.

How do you have zero doubts for SN?

 

[blackflag1]

If found before it works, there is usually no long term damage. If your brain is starved of oxygen long enough, then there could be brain damage. If your brain is deprived of oxygen long enough to result in brain damage, then you were revived at the last possible moments. Not the usual outcome though. It is normally revived and no long-term damage or a ride on a covered stainless steel cart from the ER to the morgue. Don't get found before it has time to work and you will be successful.

 

[Stan]

Everything else has even greater risks IMO. Other than N which is probably what is used for Euthanasia in many countries across the world.

How do you have zero doubts for SN?

I have confidence in my simple plan and that I will do it correctly and not be interrupted. I don't need no further evidence that SN can end my life. There is enough evidence inside and outside of this forum.

 

[purplemoon]

Already knew that one. But SA can cause blindness, brain damage, heart problems long term. It destroys everything.

Can you get brain damage with SN?

SA...?
Are you referring to Sodium Azide?
(are you still around?)

It can cause blindness?! Crap!!!