KN (Potassium Nitrite) Megathread

[EmptyBottle]

Think so, so long as that 5% isn't methelyne blue (if it was, there would be dark blue or blackish crystals.... in reality, the other 5% could be filler, preservative, etc)

 

[tarnishedstoner]

Got my KN delivered today. I was wondering if going for 25g instead of 31g would make a difference. I don't want to go for a higher dose than what is necessary as it makes you more likely to throw up. Any insights?

 

[Caribbean Sky]

Yeah! I'm hoping to see my exit through KN, so I mentioned the PPH in the method thread.

I already have a 200g bottle of sn, more than enough but I'm fine, especially as I hear it is a little easier to get still, just in case my sn source stops selling it. I was questioned when I bought my second bottle.

do you know if the symptoms or experience taking it as any worse or better than sn?
Is the mechanism any different?

Other than that, I don't really have a question about sources except that I imagine they would be pretty similar to sn but more common. I don't know, would that be a good guess?

Trying to talk secretively here especially since I already know a source

 

[aRose]

Ignore me if this isn't an acceptable question - Has anyone sourced either SN or KN successfully? I've been searching but keep finding dead ends. I'm in the USA if that matters. I have order covid tests from the Ukraine but nothing like this.

It's the last price of the puzzle I need

 

[amputatedandalone]

I'm also looking for KN sources in the US. Any help is appreciated.

 

[gothbird]

Ignore me if this isn't an acceptable question - Has anyone sourced either SN or KN successfully? I've been searching but keep finding dead ends. I'm in the USA if that matters. I have order covid tests from the Ukraine but nothing like this.

It's the last price of the puzzle I need

I'm also looking for KN sources in the US. Any help is appreciated.

Other than that, I don't really have a question about sources except that I imagine they would be pretty similar to sn but more common. I don't know, would that be a good guess?

I have received SN and KN from Ukraine, but both sources are no longer reputable (because of raids etc.
Have potentially confirmed one active KN source in Turkey, but waiting to receive it before I go bleating like a sheep. Not sure about US for anything nitrite based nowadays, since shipping is like triple the price of the nitrite itself, so I'm not much help there. I will ask around.

do you know if the symptoms or experience taking it as any worse or better than sn?
Is the mechanism any different?

The mechanism is largely the same, but we just don't have the same amount of resources regarding confirmed cases as we do with SN. When I decide to go, I will try my very best to have it documented very honestly, even if I fail or it's painful.

 

[Nerned]

Is 500g of KN appropriate for ingestion? I'm around 60kg, found a source and I'm taking Olanzapine which I'm not sure would interfere with it. Should I fast before following through with the method?

 

[RinneOfAragon]

hi anyone from England or UK. I really need help with sourcing Kn. I have digestive problems and any advice even hints would be appreciated. I'm genuinely in need of help here. I'm very very desperate. thank you

 

[EmptyBottle]

Is 500g of KN appropriate for ingestion? I'm around 60kg, found a source and I'm taking Olanzapine which I'm not sure would interfere with it. Should I fast before following through with the method?

500g may be ok as a purchase amount (if smaller amounts aren't available), but 500g of any powder is too big to consume.

I remember somewhere that there is a 25:31.5 ratio, eg instead of 25g SN, it's 31.5g KN, but readers, fact check this ratio coz my memory could be incorrect and/or new data could come out.

 

[RinneOfAragon]

Hi on Amazon UK it says its pure Kn ? anyone in uk bought this ?
and it's so cheap, any UK citizen can help me out here ? please
I feel like I have an extremely small window here. before my government comes for this
uk people is this kn legitimate off Amazon? its got some reviews. it just seems too good to be true
pm me if needed
ok I realised now it's the wrong freaking potassium

 

[Bukki1974]

Suppose it depends on your tolerance. I can deal with with pain, headache, etc., but vomiting and nausea are a major concern. I detest both of those things and it seems like SN and KN both are problematic with those two compared to other methods. Would really not want my final moments to be vomiting profusely.

And there are other peaceful accessible methods. I am kinda working on a method/megathread which pulls together information about a particular method that doesn't really have it's own section in the PPH but is mentioned multiple times, and is detailed more extensively in a version of the PPH not accessible on this website.

Seen someone who did something similar a few years ago and they were unconscious within 10 minutes, no nausea and only mild discomfort, and were successful. No benzos either.

Worried about posting it though because I don't want the sources to get swarmed. Will maybe post closer to when my time comes.

Could you tell me more about this?

 

[ToughTimes]

How many grams if KN compared to SN?

 

[EmptyBottle]

I remember somewhere that there is a 25:31.5 ratio, eg instead of 25g SN, it's 31.5g KN, but readers, fact check this ratio coz my memory could be incorrect and/or new data could come out.

31.5g of KN is said to be substitute for 25g, at least some other thread said it.

No one fact checked my recollection. So I did... and I'm sliiightly wrong (by -0.5g, see below)

Bumping with more info

Potassium nitrite is a strong oxidizer with the chemical formula KNO2. High levels of potassium nitrite in the blood causes methemoglobinemia & its associated symptoms, headache, fatigue, dizziness, blue coloration to the skin & lips, due to the binding of the nitrite ion to blood cells, reducing their ability to carry oxygen. Sufficiently high levels can cause respiratory depression, collapse, and death. Potassium nitrite shares a method of action with sodium nitrite, but it takes more of the product to achieve the same effect. Its molar mass is approximately 85 g/mol. The molar mass of SN is approximately 69 g/mol. This is where the 85:69 dosing ratio comes from. However, LD 50 of potassium nitrite is cited at 235 mg/kg. Potassium nitrite is very soluble in water. At 0°C it's soluble at 281 g/100 mL, at 25°C at 312 g/100mL, and at 100°C at 413 g/100 mL. This is more soluble than sodium nitrite who at 25°C is 84.8 g/100 mL soluble. So while more potassium nitrite is required, less water is needed to dissolve it. It is also soluble in alcohol. Potassium nitrite is on the hazardous substance list because while not combustible itself, it may enhance combustion of other substances. It is non-flammable but explodes at 537°C. Overall, it is less ideal than its counterpart sodium nitrite, but in some locations it may be easier to source. I personally am still able to find it through a major online retailer. Less water is needed, which is nice. However, it would require more product, and your body rejects them mixture due to the amount of salt required. An equivalent dose of potassium nitrite to 25 g of SN would be about 31g. An extra 6g of salt may seem insignificant, but I feel it would probably increase the chances of vomiting even with an AE. I have access to online medical journals & make look into more research about it. It seems like an alternative for SN that would have more issues with keeping it down, but I figured the math on it might be interesting

FACT CHECK: no @EmptyBottle the KN:SN ratio is 31:25, not 31.5:25

 

[Surek]

In short, to convert NaNO2 to KNO2, simply multiply the first one by 1.2335; and vice versa, divide the second one by 1.2335

 

[gothbird]

In short, to convert NaNO2 to KNO2, simply multiply the first one by 1.2335; and vice versa, divide the second one by 1.2335

As per my method thread linked in the first message:

2:
The only research I have found for potentially needing a higher dose is in this book which says:

cc: @EmptyBottle @ToughTimes

Is 500g of KN appropriate for ingestion? I'm around 60kg, found a source and I'm taking Olanzapine which I'm not sure would interfere with it. Should I fast before following through with the method?

500g is too much!