Ketamine

[Tortured_empath]

Has anyone tried ketamine as an alternative to conventional antidepressants?
If so, how did it work out for you? How was the effect? Any side effects?

 

[Throwaway9787]

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

 

[Sailfisher]

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

How long does it last?

 

[Throwaway9787]

How long does it last?

30 mins to 2 hours. i take it 2 times a day

 

[Tortured_empath]

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

How's the effect specifically, just a mellow relief?
Did you get it prescribed?

 

[Throwaway9787]

How's the effect specifically, just a mellow relief?
Did you get it prescribed?

you just forget your problems, anything that was plaguing you. I have physical health problems and i usually forget about the agony it creates for me. Yeah i got prescribed after nothing as worked. I suppose you could buy illicit ketamine and make a spray yourself.

 

[Tortured_empath]

you just forget your problems, anything that was plaguing you. I have physical health problems and i usually forget about the agony it creates for me. Yeah i got prescribed after nothing as worked. I suppose you could buy illicit ketamine and make a spray yourself.

That seems real nice. My problems are mainly physical too, so it would be a relief to get something to forget it. Do you feel like it improves your quality of life? And do you have any issues with disassociation?

I might have to but them illicitly, although I'll see what I can do...

 

[Throwaway9787]

That seems real nice. My problems are mainly physical too, so it would be a relief to get something to forget it. Does the effect slowly fade away? And do you have any issues with disassociation?

I might have to but them illicitly, although I'll see what I can do...

At first you can get slight disassociation. It slowly fades away. I would look into how to compound the nasal spray. Or just sniff like 20mg worth with your nose.

 

[Meg]

I did a clinical trial for a reformulation of Ketamine they're trying to get FDA approval for in the US. It's been fast tracked for approval cuz it's doing well in clinical trials. It would be a once weekly injection you'd get at the doctor's office and you have to stay for a half hour afterwards for observation. It didn't work for me but it apparently has been really good for a lot of people. If you're in the US you can Google clinical trials and see if you can get in one. Nice cuz not only do you get treatment, they pay you. And you get a doctor for the duration of the trial and 3 months afterwards for free.

 

[h0wd1rtygurlsST4Yc1n]

i know i've done it recreationally......so i'd give it a shot. there's gotta be more to it than just getting you fucked up on k tho......

 

[GeorgeJL]

I brought psychedelics off the darknet many times. They can certainly help open your eyes to the almost infinite potential of consciousness.

 

[k75]

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

What are the costs involved in that?

I really want to give ketamine a try, but I'm not able to. My insurance does not cover anything except the consultation, and I can't afford it.

I was recently researching a ketamine clinic near me and looking into the infusions. They told me that each one costs $800 out of pocket! All told, a full course of treatment was something like $25,000.

 

[Throwaway9787]

What are the costs involved in that?

I really want to give ketamine a try, but I'm not able to. My insurance does not cover anything except the consultation, and I can't afford it.

I was recently researching a ketamine clinic near me and looking into the infusions. They told me that each one costs $800 out of pocket! All told, a full course of treatment was something like $25,000.

I don't think it's that expensive. My insurance covers it but I'll get back o you

 

[Sailfisher]

How hard was it to get a prescription for this?

 

[namelessX8]

Has anyone tried ketamine as an alternative to conventional antidepressants?
If so, how did it work out for you? How was the effect? Any side effects?

I've only done it recreationally a few times. To answer your question of "How was the effect?", I felt like my limbs had separated from my torso and that I was floating in mid-day. It's a nice feeling, for about 2 or 3 hrs. I have never been prescribed it however. I think it is unavailable as a medical treatment here in the UK. Antidepressants (SNRIs) + Antipsychotics seem to work for me though, so I never bothered signing up to a clinical trial on K. I doubt my depression will ever be cured. The meds should reduce its severity :/ How difficult is it to get a prescription for K where you are?

 

[Kjo]

Dosage & method
In April I started Ketamine infusions, consisting of six sessions lasting an hour each with an IV to administer 40-65 mg of Ketamine. These infusions were roughly $350 each time. The trip alone is worth it. Your body and mind is SO different when under!!! After the infusions, I swapped over to prescription ketamine troches of the 100mg flavored marshmallow mint raspberry (troches = sublingual lozenges). A partnered pharmacy compounds the prescription and the Dr that did the infusions wrote the prescription for me without me even having to ask. The prescription is about $150 for 60 troches with the expectations I'd take one troche every other day and/or as needed. I had no insurance and was told insurance wouldn't cover it regardless.

The Good
I was stunned at the results. I'm not exaggerating when I say it changed my perspective entirely. Sounds that used to trigger panic attacks didn't bother me at all. I could smell so many new smells and I sincerely didn't feel depressed and I usually get so euphoric when I use Ketamine. Everything is so different. It is so amazing to feel relief.
Plus, the trips were so dreamy. I didn't know all those strange feelings and trippy world in my head could exist. It feels so wonderful when under - almost like what I imagine would be Nirvana.

The Bad
Unfortunately, it is expensive and just a temporary bandaid as the results are rather short term. For me, the happiness and no longer having suicidal ideation would only last a few hours or up to a day and a half... And, you can't do anything like driving or working for a bit after taking Ketamine cuz your body and mind are still hazy.
As well, the forgetfulness and confusion are pretty intense. There are chunks of missing memories - not like a drunk blackout but like a 'I remember doing (insert activity) but I also don't remember it." The level of confusion and forgetfulness might be best explained by the day I put a plate instead of a pan on top of the stove to make eggs or the five times in a row I went back in and out of the bedroom closet to get milk until I realized what I was doing.
Unexpectedly, getting better also made me worse too... Because I could see how happy I could be... How broken I really am with the sad realization of how many things actually did get to me everyday and how scared I am...


Recommendation
If you have the resources and time to give it a try, I highly recommend it. I also recommend you bring a loved one or pick very uplifting music.

 

[oldgregg187]

I did a clinical trial for a reformulation of Ketamine they're trying to get FDA approval for in the US. It's been fast tracked for approval cuz it's doing well in clinical trials. It would be a once weekly injection you'd get at the doctor's office and you have to stay for a half hour afterwards for observation. It didn't work for me but it apparently has been really good for a lot of people. If you're in the US you can Google clinical trials and see if you can get in one. Nice cuz not only do you get treatment, they pay you. And you get a doctor for the duration of the trial and 3 months

ooops, was just trying to comment. didn't mean to repost someone else's post.
ooops, was just trying to comment. didn't mean to repost someone else's post.

What are the costs involved in that?

I really want to give ketamine a try, but I'm not able to. My insurance does not cover anything except the consultation, and I can't afford it.

I was recently researching a ketamine clinic near me and looking into the infusions. They told me that each one costs $800 out of pocket! All told, a full course of treatment was something like $25,000.

do they give you the nasal spray to take home ?

 

[k75]

do they give you the nasal spray to take home ?

No. You take it at a clinic, under doctor supervision, and then they're required to monitor you for at least two hours.

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[slothturtlebro]

i had it 12 times at hospital, didn't work, it basically can feel like you're dreaming and or confused when on it if you took too much else it just makes you feel relaxed i guess, it is an anestesiant.
For me it makes me feel like i can forget my problems when i'm on it, but then it just goes back so...

 

[Black_Knight]

Only ever used it illicitly. It's great for fast acting relief, both of psychological and physical pain. I don't know how to phrase it but it has a very existentially freeing quality to it. But the duration is short and long term use is associated with bladder dysfunction and sometimes cognitive impairment.

 

[saomao]

Anyone knows the right dose for ketamine powder?

 

[Ruffian]

Dosage & method
In April I started Ketamine infusions, consisting of six sessions lasting an hour each with an IV to administer 40-65 mg of Ketamine. These infusions were roughly $350 each time. The trip alone is worth it. Your body and mind is SO different when under!!! After the infusions, I swapped over to prescription ketamine troches of the 100mg flavored marshmallow mint raspberry (troches = sublingual lozenges). A partnered pharmacy compounds the prescription and the Dr that did the infusions wrote the prescription for me without me even having to ask. The prescription is about $150 for 60 troches with the expectations I'd take one troche every other day and/or as needed. I had no insurance and was told insurance wouldn't cover it regardless.

The Good
I was stunned at the results. I'm not exaggerating when I say it changed my perspective entirely. Sounds that used to trigger panic attacks didn't bother me at all. I could smell so many new smells and I sincerely didn't feel depressed and I usually get so euphoric when I use Ketamine. Everything is so different. It is so amazing to feel relief.
Plus, the trips were so dreamy. I didn't know all those strange feelings and trippy world in my head could exist. It feels so wonderful when under - almost like what I imagine would be Nirvana.

The Bad
Unfortunately, it is expensive and just a temporary bandaid as the results are rather short term. For me, the happiness and no longer having suicidal ideation would only last a few hours or up to a day and a half... And, you can't do anything like driving or working for a bit after taking Ketamine cuz your body and mind are still hazy.
As well, the forgetfulness and confusion are pretty intense. There are chunks of missing memories - not like a drunk blackout but like a 'I remember doing (insert activity) but I also don't remember it." The level of confusion and forgetfulness might be best explained by the day I put a plate instead of a pan on top of the stove to make eggs or the five times in a row I went back in and out of the bedroom closet to get milk until I realized what I was doing.
Unexpectedly, getting better also made me worse too... Because I could see how happy I could be... How broken I really am with the sad realization of how many things actually did get to me everyday and how scared I am...


Recommendation
If you have the resources and time to give it a try, I highly recommend it. I also recommend you bring a loved one or pick very uplifting music.

Going in the closet to get milk or putting a plate on the stove sounds like an Ambien overdose. I thought your write up was good - I don't think I could be approved for clinical trials. It sounds like it just gives you a break from physical pain & mental anguish for a few hours, then you go right back? Or does it reduce your level of suffering overall?

 

[AtomicNewt]

Just saw the heading KETAMINE and my first thought was, yes please!

No idea what it's like in a therapeutic session, I've only ever been smashed off my tits on it. Can highly recommend that though. Not sure it is possible to worry about anything apart from how speech and movement works in that state. Not permemnant though :/

Now curious about trying it again, "therapeutically" of course. Think round here it would be about £15 a gram. Doubt be pure though and don't know what levels are recommended?

 

[MerrySkeleton]

Ketamine provides me with fantastic short term relief but I don't think helps with any of my underlying issues. It's not a cure so much as something which keeps the symptoms at bay for like a week. Even so, I'd recommend it to anyone who is thinking about trying it. I get mine off the dark web (since proper IV treatments are pricey) and just snort measured bumps of it biweekly. I haven't made an order since Dream Market when down though, so hopefully there are still some decent sources out there.

 

[Powderedmonster]

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

How much is the ketamine nasal spray? And don't they have to administer it to you in a medical setting?

Ketamine provides me with fantastic short term relief but I don't think helps with any of my underlying issues. It's not a cure so much as something which keeps the symptoms at bay for like a week. Even so, I'd recommend it to anyone who is thinking about trying it. I get mine off the dark web (since proper IV treatments are pricey) and just snort measured bumps of it biweekly. I haven't made an order since Dream Market when down though, so hopefully there are still some decent sources out there.

How do you get it off the dark web? Lol

 

[Luchs]

Has anyone tried ketamine as an alternative to conventional antidepressants?
If so, how did it work out for you? How was the effect? Any side effects?

Yoda like Ketamine, mmhhhh!

 

[k75]

How much is the ketamine nasal spray? And don't they have to administer it to you in a medical setting?

Yeah, it's only given in the clinic. They are required to supervise you.

I don't know the exact cost of the spray, but I've been looking into it and it seems to be expensive and insurance generally won't cover it.

I really want to try the infusions, but again, expensive and not covered. The ketamine clinic close to me says $800 per session, and about $25k worth of sessions are recommended. Which really fucking sucks, because I want to try it badly. I think it might help me.

 

[Sweet emotion]

I've had ketamine infusions for ten days in a row, four hours a day for my physical condition called complex regional pain syndrome. It does nothing for me.

Yeah, it's only given in the clinic. They are required to supervise you.

I don't know the exact cost of the spray, but I've been looking into it and it seems to be expensive and insurance generally won't cover it.

I really want to try the infusions, but again, expensive and not covered. The ketamine clinic close to me says $800 per session, and about $25k worth of sessions are recommended. Which really fucking sucks, because I want to try it badly. I think it might help me.

I've had the infusions but i had insurance. It could be over a grand a day. It's ridiculous. I tried them to help with my Complex Regional Pain Syndrome which is the highest ranking pain condition in medical history. What did you try it for? It didn't work on me at all.

Yeah, it's only given in the clinic. They are required to supervise you.

I don't know the exact cost of the spray, but I've been looking into it and it seems to be expensive and insurance generally won't cover it.

I really want to try the infusions, but again, expensive and not covered. The ketamine clinic close to me says $800 per session, and about $25k worth of sessions are recommended. Which really fucking sucks, because I want to try it badly. I think it might help me.

I've had the infusions but i had insurance. It could be over a grand a day. It's ridiculous. I tried them to help with my Complex Regional Pain Syndrome which is the highest ranking pain condition in medical history. What did you try it for? It didn't work on me at all.

works well for me. I have ketamine nasal spray

You use this nasal spray for pain right?

 

[amnotreal]

I did ketamine assisted therapy last spring and for a short time my depression was completely gone and so where all suicidal thoughts and feelings. they just vanished. it was amazing. it is really expensive. now that spravato is available insurance pays for it but it is very hard to find providers and requires appointments twice a week with someone to drive you home. i am trying to get it though to see if it works again. I feel so desperate.

 

[Throwawaysoul]

I don't think it's that expensive. My insurance covers it but I'll get back o you

The infusion therapy is dumb expensive. $500+ a session, multiple sessions are needed