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[Kodama]

So basically it is POSSIBLE to survive this bridge

NO, it's impossible if you jump from the center of the bridge !

 

[toomuchgrief]

Because this Physic major person make me doubt this bridge jump now.

A bridge usually build balance right @Kodama Sir? Meaning in the middle should be the point where you go straight down right? I have no idea how strong the wind need to be in order to blow me to hit the rocks. I thought if that happen (hit those rocks first) it be great since my skull in injure and knock me unconscious, or brain bleed. I didn't know it would help reduce my fall impact you know.

Thank you Kodama, I guess I just have to take my risk then. If I jump this bridge and still manage to survive I guess miracle exist then.

I know my baby wouldn't want his mom to jump, and I'm sure my baby wants his mom to continue living and live well. But sorry, I can't do it. I have try, and I know I can't live without my son. If there really is an afterlife, I hope I see my baby on the other side. I will have to do it soon because if I hold off too long, my baby probably go reincarnate and even if I die, I won't get to see my baby anyway.

But I don't believe in afterlife, I believe death is like when you get put under. I just want an eternal sleep so I can forget my son death, eternal blackness is so wonderful to me compared to I live everyday in grief like this.
My son die since January, and there isn't a day where I don't bawl or cry. Everyday grief is eating me alive. The pain of lose your child is just too much, I don't know how to take it. I guess when I die it true happiness for me.

I want to CTB in Jan, the same day that my baby die. But seeing this bridge already fill up with snow winter time, I not sure if I want to leap in Jan, last thing I want is survive. I guess I wait till the snow melt then I go. Probably go in Jan to tour around first see how much snow is there.

Let hope this winter go by fast, so I can end all this pain.

 

[John Smith]

Well don't make the same mistake I did. Jumped 50ft and survived. Was really drunk, but landed feet first. Woke up a day later in hospital with every bone from the knees down broken, punctured lung and cracked ribs. Took 16 weeks to learn to walk again and a year to wean myself off crutches because of my balance. The worst thing from the ordeal is the embarrassment that comes after you wake up realising you failed and family/friends judging you. Could also add the constant reminder of pain in my ankles and walking with a limp that people always ask about. Can't run anymore since both ankles were fused back on and have limited mobility. It is what it is.

How bad was the pain when you hit? Why didnt you land head first?

 

[Kodama]

How bad was the pain when you hit? Why didnt you land head first?

I wrote he was drunk... When you are falling it's a lottery Some peoples died accidentally from falling their own height or less than 15 ft !

 

[CrushedHopes]

And this is exactly why my CTB method isn't jumping. Definitely sticking with SN - there's no chance of survival if done correctly, and no complications in the unlikely event that I get saved.

 

[truthseeker]

Hahahaha, sorry, couldn't help but laugh at landing on a pile of marshmalllows.
I'm mainly going to the Royal Gorge (yes 1000ft) because it's very beautiful. I want my last view to at least be spectacular before i take the plunge.

I feel the same regarding this and a couple of other locations. So beautiful and the height can leave little or no doubt. Need to do a bit more research but looking promising should it become method #1. I've gleaned much info from youtube.

 

[fightingsioux]

I teach English to immigrants in the U.S., so please understand that what I'm about to say has nothing to do with the fact that English is not your first language (actually, you're doing quite well).

I mean no offense or insult personally, I'm just stating a fact: the substance of your post is absolute nonsense. I have no idea what bridge you're talking about, but if it's one thousand feet high anything less than the most powerful super-tornado since the beginning of the world will have no appreciable effect on your falling body. You will die.

The mud will not cushion your fall. Your body will suffer catastrophic multiple blunt force injuries as it's subjected to the force of tens of thousands of pounds per square inch. Concrete, mud, water, feathers or marshmallows--you will die.

I'm assuming that you're not pulling my leg (an American idiom) when you say that you don't want to land headfirst on the rocks below because your head will break down your impact. Codswallop (an archaic British word): what will happen is that your head will explode like a Halloween pumpkin dropped from the Eiffel Tower. You will die.

Finally, you're not appreciating one of the fundamental properties of matter called inertia: your outer body will come to an insanely abrupt and rather uncomfortable total stop while your internal organs will continue to travel. Your insides will resemble a bowl of oatmeal. You will die.

And perhaps off-topic, my friend, but I would sincerely suggest that you tell your friend who's majoring in Physics to switch majors.

Well don't make the same mistake I did. Jumped 50ft and survived. Was really drunk, but landed feet first. Woke up a day later in hospital with every bone from the knees down broken, punctured lung and cracked ribs. Took 16 weeks to learn to walk again and a year to wean myself off crutches because of my balance. The worst thing from the ordeal is the embarrassment that comes after you wake up realising you failed and family/friends judging you. Could also add the constant reminder of pain in my ankles and walking with a limp that people always ask about. Can't run anymore since both ankles were fused back on and have limited mobility. It is what it is.

Yep, 50 feet is the median height for surviving jumps: half do, half don't. Not really high enough for certainty.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Thank you Sir.

I never say I didn't want to land my head on the bottom, that is my goal, head down. But like you say, it doesn't matter if I land on my back or head, one thousand feet is high enough regardless of what position I land.

What I said was that when I jump, somehow instead of go straight down the bottom, I hit my head on the side of the rocks first then I bounce then I continue fall, that will break down my impact.
Like this statement: [[ The best shot of survival is to hit your body on those jagged rocks first, at as high an elevation as possible, so it can break down your impact as you continue to free fall down. ]]

I have no idea which part on that bridge would send me straight down, I guess it right in the middle, due to bridge build balance, so the tallest height would be in the middle of the bridge.
I can't control what I hit once I jump, perhaps there some rocks nearby and I hit that rocks first, then it bounce me off and continue me fall down. Or even if I go straight down without hitting anything, I might crash on a building roof below, below that river there a train station and like few buildings.

 

[fightingsioux]

Thank you Sir.

I never say I didn't want to land my head on the bottom, that is my goal, head down. But like you say, it doesn't matter if I land on my back or head, one thousand feet is high enough regardless of what position I land.

What I said was that when I jump, somehow instead of go straight down the bottom, I hit my head on the side of the rocks first then I bounce then I continue fall, that will break down my impact.
Like this statement: [[ The best shot of survival is to hit your body on those jagged rocks first, at as high an elevation as possible, so it can break down your impact as you continue to free fall down. ]]

I have no idea which part on that bridge would send me straight down, I guess it right in the middle, due to bridge build balance, so the tallest height would be in the middle of the bridge.

You're overthinking the whole thing. Over & out on this.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Thank you Sir fightingsioux,
yes, you right, I overthinking the whole thing. I keep go back and forth, I doubt myself alot. It should be easy, just jump and it over, stop thinking too much.

Thank you again for your enlightenment in this thead regarding jump survival, not just for me but for tons of other posters in here who also want the jumping method but might have some doubt. And for other lurkers in this thread too.
You seem very wise and have lot of knowledge in your responses.

 

[toomuchgrief]

@RedPanda

Hey RedPanda, if you still want the jumping route, let me introduce you to this bridge. It only 656 feet hight, but it should do the job. It call Rio Grande Gorge Bridge in the state of New Mexico, USA.

It NOT a tourist bridge so you won't be seeing alot of people walk on there, and there NO security around. It in the middle of no where, as you can see from the pic.
When I was there, there was no one on the bridge, and I only see few cars drove by.

This bridge has the history of 121 people who jump and died here already. So they have 10 helpline phones along the bridge, so they install those phone, if you ever change your mind you press the red button it will direct you to the helpline. NO one ever press that phone though eversince they put it up, make sense, who the hell that are 'serious' about suicide would press that helpline phone. They go there to jump, period.

Anyways, those 10 phone is like evenly distribute throughout the bridge. I pick the 5th phone to jump due to that is in the middle of the bridge, you always want to jump at the middle, to make sure you hit the bottom without rocks or mountain on the way break your free fall.

I got chicken out, I broke the first rule of jumping is I look straight out, 656 feet, it looks HIGH. Yes, it doesn't look high in the pic, but when you actually there in person look down, it looks HIGH!. My legs start trembling and I chicken out.
Well, now I know next time I won't look down.

I still debate between this bridge of the 1,000 feet tourist bridge. The tourist bridge is higher, but you really need to watch out since there be alot of tourist walking on it.

This bridge on the other hand, it in the middle of no where, and NOT a tourist bridge. So you only see few cars drive by if you lucky (depends on the time of the day). Last time I was there, I saw ONE coyote, lol. I'm sure there more coyote (perhaps a pack) that will come out when the sun go down, that what you get when you chose a bridge that in the middle of no where.

This bridge is closer to the state where I live than the 1,000 feet one. I like this one due to there nothing here, no one can help you if you in the middle of no where. Even if you don't die of blood loss, those coyotes probably go sniff you if they smell human blood flesh, lol. oh, and I also saw those big birds flying around up in the sky, those birds probably go sniff you too lol


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here some suicide news from the Taos city itself of the bridge, this bridge located in Taos, New Mexico, USA

Suicide at the Río Grande Gorge Bridge and the toll of recovering a body

In 2003, Steve Miera was a young deputy with the Taos County Sheriff’s Office when he hiked below the Río Grande Gorge Bridge to recover the body of a jumper

www.taosnews.com

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@Kodama
Thank you Sir for like this bridge post of mine.

So which one you recommend? The 1,000 feet bridge on page 1, or this 656 feet bridge? This one it in the middle of no where, it easier for me to jump you know as there won't be people around like the 1,000 feet tourist bridge. That tourist bridge I need to be quick, like climb on without thinking and just throw myself over quick before any tourist see me.
This 656 feet one, I not have to worry about that as it in the middle of no where.

Which one would you chose? Or it doesn't matter. Wouldn't 656 feet be too low in height, as in chance of survive?

 

[Kodama]

656ft = 0% chance to survive ! As you hesitate a lot, sure that your SI will be hyper powerful and as Gene Sprague on the GGB, you'll probably spend a loooooong time on this bridge before eventually try to jump so middle of nowhere is better...
To be honest, regarding your questions and post, I'm not sure this is the right method for you!

 

[toomuchgrief]

Yeah Sir @Kodama, you right, I hesitate alot, due to I have anxiety.
That was why I practice go to this bridge first and at 656 feet my legs shaking already, I know no way I can climb a 1,000 feet bridge. So unless I get comfortable look straight down 656 feet, I don't know how can I do 1,000 feet, unless I just look straight ahead when I climb and not look down.

I did think of a 12 gauge shotgun to my head, that would be easier as it only take ONE second and bam there go my brain. It easy for me to get a gun due to I have perfectly clean records, so they will sell a gun to me. But then I hesitate too after I read about all those survival stories. Here my thread,
take a look at it and you will see why I hesitate, there this beautiful girl after fail a riffle to her mouth, she end up disfigure her whole face, BUT then alive.
oh well, I got to woman up and chose one damn method.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...uicide-attempts-by-gunshot-to-the-head.22812/

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

@fightingsioux
Thank you Sir for your explaination.
@RedPanda
You might want to read this, or anyone who plan to jump might want to read this.

A person who major in Physic answer me said this regarding this 1,000 feet bridge:
[[ The best shot of survival is to hit your body on those jagged rocks first, at as high an elevation as possible, so it can break down your impact as you continue to free fall down (if you are almost all of the way down, hitting the water or mud adjacent to the river would probably be better).
You can have some slight impact on what direction you fall, you could get lucky with crosswinds, and you might push off towards a rock wall as you leap. ]]

So basically it is POSSIBLE to survive this bridge, this is why I refuse to go on windy time, nor time where it fill with snow.
Plus you can't control where you land, like if you land on the mud part of the river below, who knows it might be a cushion on your fall.

Now I regret said I want my head hit the jagged rocks first. Bad idea. Because it will break down my impact.
Yeah look at this pic below. Yeah, last thing I want is survive.
Perhaps I should rethink this jump method and hell, get a damn shotgun and blow my brain off.

Landing on mud or water from 1,000 feet will do zero to cushion your fall. It will just make your corpse wet or muddy. Water is not compressible, meaning it does not safely decelerate you. Have you ever done a belly flop or just slapped your hand on the water? It hurts! That's because the water cannot move out of the way faster than you are moving. From 1,000 ft, if you are an unstable body, you'll be going almost 160 mph when you reach your destination. Sand, rocks, water, cotton balls, anything is going to punch your ticket to ctb.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Well and I didn't spend any time walking around the 656 feet bridge thinking at all, I went straight to middle of the bridge, where the 5th helpline telephone boot is (there 10 helpline phone spread out evenly, so I figure the 5th one got to be the middle of the bridge one), and I climbed (yes, I look around and there make sure was no one around me, not even a car. Except a coyote on the other side across). First step climb and I look straight down, and holly batman it was HIGH!! Then my legs start trembling then I got back down.
They have a resting area where you can park your car then you can walk to the bridge, so I park my car there, I went back and drove home.

Waste money get there and rent a car, but at least I learn that at 656 feet my anxiety kick in make my legs shaking.
Maybe I should go back there again and this time do more practice. Perhaps I should hang around and just force myself to look down 656 feet for like couple hours, then maybe I will get use to it.

Neither way, until I get over my fear of height, I think a shotgun would be a better bet for me.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

Well and I didn't spend any time walking around the 656 feet bridge thinking at all, I went straight to middle of the bridge, where the 5th helpline telephone boot is (there 10 helpline phone spread out evenly, so I figure the 5th one got to be the middle of the bridge one), and I climbed (yes, I look around and there make sure was no one around me, not even a car. Except a coyote on the other side across). First step climb and I look straight down, and holly batman it was HIGH!! Then my legs start trembling then I got back down.
They have a resting area where you can park your car then you can walk to the bridge, so I park my car there, I went back and drove home.

Waste money get there and rent a car, but at least I learn that at 656 feet my anxiety kick in make my legs shaking.
Maybe I should go back there again and this time do more practice. Perhaps I should hang around and just force myself to look down 656 feet for like couple hours, then maybe I will get use to it.

Neither way, until I get over my fear of height, I think a shotgun would be a better bet for me.

Can you climb up with your back to it and just fall backwards? Though your plan b could certainly do the trick as well.

edit: used the wrong "your"

 

[toomuchgrief]

I wear contact lens due to I'm near sighted, so I can just take off my contact lens and climb, and no way I can see that far 656 feet or 1,000 feet bottom below without my contact lens. If I'm familiar with the bridge and know where the middle of the bridge is, I can just climb and jump, I wouldn't have to scare of height if I can't see anything far away without my contacts lens anyways.

I'm short (I'm 5 feet and 1 inches to be exact), I don't know how to climb with my back like that Gene guy in GGB.

sighhhh....... this is so hard. I would have put a shotgun to my head if I hold a gun before, but I never hold a gun before so I not sure if I can aim correctly at my head. And a gun is not a thing to do practice with, one miss aim and your whole face be disfigured and you still have your heart beating.

@MaybeMaybeKnot
My question, so if somehow I get over my anxiety and manage to plunge 1,000 feet down that bridge, chances are I will die fast right? Not laying around in blood while my heart still beating and it gonna take like 5-6 hours before my blood drain from bleed to death right? This need to be quick, because I don't want anyone to rescue my body and take me to the hospital and help me survive.

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

I wear contact lens due to I'm near sighted, so I can just take off my contact lens and climb, and no way I can see that far 656 feet or 1,000 feet bottom below without my contact lens. If I'm familiar with the bridge and know where the middle of the bridge is, I can just climb and jump, I wouldn't have to scare of height if I can't see anything far away without my contacts lens anyways.

I'm short (I'm 5 feet and 1 inches to be exact), I don't know how to climb with my back like that Gene guy in GGB.

sighhhh....... this is so hard. I would have put a shotgun to my head if I hold a gun before, but I never hold a gun before so I not sure if I can aim correctly at my head. And a gun is not a thing to do practice with, one miss aim and your whole face be disfigured and you still have your heart beating.

@MaybeMaybeKnot
My question, so if somehow I get over my anxiety and manage to plunge 1,000 feet down that bridge, chances are I will die fast right? Not laying around in blood while my heart still beating and it gonna take like 5-6 hours before my blood drain from bleed to death right? This need to be quick, because I don't want anyone to rescue my body and take me to the hospital and help me survive.

You will fall for six seconds from 1,000 feet. It will start silent and then sound very windy. Then it will immediately be over. You've seen what happens to a car going 60mph. You'll be going 160mph. You won't suffer.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Thank you Sir MaybeMaybeKnot, I trust you okay, let hope I die instead of be in a coma and wake up weeks later.
If I jump from that in the middle of no where 656 feet bridge. How many seconds will I go before I hit bottom, and how many mph at 656 feet? I think I go slower speed right? And crash sooner right? So no good right? 1,000 feet always after bet, yes?

oh and someone did survive this 656 feet bridge jump, with a parachute ofcourse, his parachute open too late, like 2/3 way down, but he survived. Therefore it make me doubt this height.

@MaybeMaybeKnot Sir and @Kodama Sir you should watch this video.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Okay...... why is it that you're *still* obsessed with jumping from 1000 ft (or 656 ft)? You have been told *many times* that it makes no real difference if it's 100 ft or 200ft.

Fightingsioux has analyzed to you many times why it wouldn't matter. But you don't seem to be listening. What's the deal with that? Additionally, calling other male members here "Sir" is very awkward, and I would like you to please stop. You're not a waitress - and neither are you a customer service registrar. We don't need formalities here.

Please try to listen to other members when they're trying to give you advice. I'm very concerned about your reading comprehension even if you still don't see the bigger picture in 3 or 4 long paragraphs regarding why you're overthinking this whole thing too much (and why that physics major friend of yours is wrong).

 

[toomuchgrief]

Well thank you Sir CrushedHopes, and yes, I'm concerned big time over 1,000 feet or 656 feet, as there Youtube video right there above of someone who SURVIVE a 656 feet jump.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Well thank you Sir CrushedHopes, and yes, I'm concerned big time over 1,000 feet or 656 feet, as there Youtube video right there above of someone who SURVIVE a 656 feet jump.

....I just said don't call us "sir". I'm not "sir" - I am just CH. I don't need the title, nor do I deserve it. And that guy survived the jump because he opened his parachute, even though he opened it a bit too late. You're telling us to watch the video, but I am doubtful that you even took the time to watch it yourself, especially since there is no question as to what actually transpired in the video. You're looking to CTB by jumping - hence, you would not have a parachute prepared.

Let me make this clear for you, as Fightingioux had tried to for the past couple of posts:
100ft, or 200ft, it makes no difference. You *will* die if you jump from 100ft or more. Are we clear???

 

[intheend]

It has been survivers on GGB, so there is a much greater chance to survive a shorter bridge. You could also die of drowning, because you can't swim with all your broken bones.

 

[CrushedHopes]

It has been survivers on GGB, so there is a much greater chance to survive a shorter bridge. You could also die of drowning, because you can't swim with all your broken bones.

[citation needed]

Also, how did they survive? That information is crucial.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Yeah intheend, there quite alot of survivers in the Golden Gate bridge, but then the Golden Gate bridge only 220 feet height clearance below, to me that not high at all. That dude who open his parachute towards the end he even survive and that is a 650 feet bridge.
If I'm going to take my risk, I won't risk anything lower than that 1,000 feet bridge, just in case. My fear of survive and be in coma/vegetable is just too strong, I just want to make sure I will be Dead.


eta: Just Google "Golden Gate bridge survivers". There alot of videos of too where survivers speak out.
[ As of July 2013, only 34 people are known to have survived the jump. Those who do survive strike the water feet-first and at a slight angle, ]]

And that number it back in 2013.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Yeah, there quite alot of survivers in the Golden Gate bridge, but then the Golden Gate bridge only 220 feet height clearance below, to me that not high at all. That due who open his parachute towards the end he even survive and that is a 650 feet bridge.
If I'm going to take my risk, I won't risk anything lower than that 1,000 feet bridge, just in case. My fear of survive and be in coma/vegetable is just too strong, I just want to make sure I'm DEAD.

/sigh


There's stubbornness, and then there's this, which is literally an outright refusal to acknowledge the facts. Look, TMG. You can do whatever you want, and enjoy the scenery that comes with your beloved 1000ft bridge if that's your wish before you CTB. Frankly, none of us could stop you.

But I'm also going to tell you that your obsession with wanting to jump from 1000ft is frankly grating on the nerves. Yes. We get it. You want to jump from 1000ft. Okay! Fine! You don't have to reiterate that ad nauseum. Okay? Okay. Good. Glad we managed to get that point across.

 

[toomuchgrief]

Here is one in many articles of the Golden Gate bridge survivers.

Second Chances: 'I survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge'

Meet two men with an incredible connection. They jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge, and survived. Both say the moment their fingers left the railing, they felt instant regret. It's a story of mistakes, survival, and second chances.

abc7news.com

And Google this, this guy survive:
Kevin Hines Jumped Off the Golden Gate Bridge, and Survived.

 

[CrushedHopes]

Here is one in many articles of the Golden Gate bridge survivers.

Second Chances: 'I survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge'

Meet two men with an incredible connection. They jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge, and survived. Both say the moment their fingers left the railing, they felt instant regret. It's a story of mistakes, survival, and second chances.

abc7news.com

And Google this, this guy survive:
Kevin Hines Jumped Off the Golden Gate Bridge, and Survived.

Those are the exceptions, not the rule. 98% of the jumpers do not survive - whether they die instantly from their jump, or drown. Since the GGB has had a notorious suicide history, it's also going to be more and more difficult to jump from there.

 

[toomuchgrief]

And here are 2 stories of those who survive a 1,000 feet fall, but on snow and ice. So who say 1,000 feet is not survivable on snow?

Man rescued after falling 1,000 feet in Grand Teton National Park.

Man rescued after falling 1,000 feet in Grand Teton National Park - East Idaho News

The following is a news release from Grand Teton National Park. MOOSE, Wyoming — Grand Teton National Park, Teton County Search and Rescue and Jackson Hole Mountain Resort coordinated a successful rescue of a backcountry skier Wednesday. At approximately 10:45 a.m., Teton County Dispatch...

www.eastidahonews.com

and
How do you survived a 1,000 feet fall.

How do you survive a 1,000ft fall?

A Scottish man's 1,000ft fall down a snow-covered mountain raises an obvious question: How do you survive such a extreme fall?

www.bbc.com

and
And a man survived 1,000 feet plunge into a lake, who say it not survibale on water?

Man survives 1,000 feet fall into Crater Lake Caldera.

Man survives 1,000-foot tumble into Crater Lake caldera

Man survives 1,000-foot tumble into Crater Lake caldera

mailtribune.com

 

[CrushedHopes]

Okay, two things.

1) Those are the exceptions, not the rule. You are not likely going to survive jumping from 1000ft.

2) If you have a lot of concerns about jumping, why not consider other CTB methods? We get it - feeling concerned is normal. A lot of us are looking to have ourselves terminate ourselves for real - not survive. And even if we *do* survive, we wouldn't want a bunch of complications that make it even more painful to live. You may want to consider other CTB methods, TMG.