Discussion It's really sad how society treats incels

[EvisceratedJester]

society hates incels because they are an obvious scapegoat in a world of equity. they are at the bottom of the hierarchy in our modern world.

They aren't hated because they are scapegoats, they are hated due to their misogynistic attitudes towards women. Also, they are nowhere near close to the bottom of the hierarchy. Most incels are cis-het men, so despite their issues with living up to gender expectations they are granted a lot of privilege from being a part of those identities.

the term 'incel' appears to be applied to any dysgenic man regardless of whether he is hostile to society and the fairer gender or not; take 'nice guys' for example, they are kind to women yet get labelled incels anyway.

The term incel has become one frequently used to describe a specific subset of virgin men who happen to be misogynistic towards women, blaming them and society for their issues with getting laid and going into a relationship. They are generally hostile towards sexually active men and women (especially women). That is an essential characteristic of being an incel.

"Nice guys" also aren't usually very nice. They are men who view themselves as being nice and thus believe that entitles them to women's bodies. A lot of these men are quick to turn hostile when denied things, such as sex, hence their poor reputation.

the fact that women are much more valued and desired in society due to the halo of their womb and men's hypersexual lust.

Women aren't valued in society. This comment in of itself proves that, reducing us down to our wombs rather than viewing us as people. Women are treated as objects by wider society.

 

[casual_existence]

Most people WANT to treat other people nicely. Whatever the reason it can be expected that on average you will be treated well by society. Just spend more time away from electronics and more time doing anything else around people.
You don't even need to interact with them.
Just notice how people won't try to beat you up for no reason. They won't scream at you. If you buy something they won't stop you. If you try to talk to someone they won't immediately run away. If you start doing weird things they still might not run away but at that point you're taking advantage of someone's kindness.
If something does happen you're in the wrong environment.
In relationships it's very similar but now trust is involved. They need to know that you won't hurt them. That you won't take advantage of them. That you'll be reliable. That you can take care of yourself. That you can deal with negative situations. That you can deal with positive situations.
Even in one night stands this is applicable. Even in prostitution this is applicable.
So in a framework where women are seen as sex objects where does trust and kindness have space? Objects don't strictly need to be treated with kindness because no matter how poorly a set of shoes are treated they'll still be there for you. If you forget them somewhere then who cares. Just buy another pair. Shoes can be worn whenever and in any way. Shoes do not need to be tricked into being worn. They might have a technique to them but you don't need to follow. Tuck in the lace or get laceless shoes.
Carefully analyze your beliefs about the world or else stay in ignorance.