Venting Isn’t the money of it all so unfair?

[Peaceful_Sam]

Yes. I had an idea. And went all the way with it. And lost it all.

When people talk about "Never giving up!", "Don't stop believing!", and "Quitters never win!", and all that sort of "Believe and you will achieve!" stuff, they never mention all the times that it didn't work, which, due to chance and statistics, means most of the time it won't. But, when that is the case, the enterprise is no longer around to serve as evidence of failure. Only the successes remain, and this creates a false preponderance of them.

So "Survivor Bias" is a very real and powerful force, and responsible for many people wasting time by "persevering" far far beyond what is reasonable.

Look at Jenna Fischer. Her getting cast for "The Office" had more to do with some casting directors whim than it ever had to do with her actions. Yet she doesn't get this, and thinks that anyone who moves to Hollywood and does as she did will also succeed as she did. And that's completely false.

They only show the beautiful side of investing and the green numbers. But they never show the hard work, stress and red numbers. I work more than 15hours/day sometimes and believe me I feel soo angry when I hear somebody complaining about their 6hours a day job.
I had a freaking huge loss the last 9 months. But I don't care! I will not live more than one year anyway soo I don't care hahaha

 

[Tom9999]

They only show the beautiful side of investing and the green numbers. But they never show the hard work, stress and red numbers. I work more than 15hours/day sometimes and believe me I feel soo angry when I hear somebody complaining about their 6hours a day job.
I had a freaking huge loss the last 9 months. But I don't care! I will not live more than one year anyway soo I don't care hahaha

Yeah I worked my ass off too, and did all kinds of guerilla marketing stuff.

Sorry to hear about your huge losses these last 9 months. That sucks!

But I TOTALLY get your last sentence! When I talk with creditors, collection agencies, and courts, and they say shit like "This will severely impact your credit rating! ", I feel like saying

HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCKING BLOW ME HA HA BLEEEEH NYA NAY NYA BLARGGGGGHHEEBLEEBLEBEBLEBLEEEEEEE

 

[Peaceful_Sam]

Yeah I worked my ass off too, and did all kinds of guerilla marketing stuff.

Sorry to hear about your huge losses these last 9 months. That sucks!

But I TOTALLY get your last sentence! When I talk with creditors, collection agencies, and courts, and they say shit like "This will severely impact your credit rating! ", I feel like saying

HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCKING BLOW ME HA HA BLEEEEH NYA NAY NYA BLARGGGGGHHHBBLBLBLBLBL!

Hahahahahahha.. They don't know what we're planning my friend!
We are soo lucky for having this ability to end it anytime we want. We are free from this system.
I wish good luck to people that still trapped in it.

 

[Tom9999]

I totally agree. We are very unfortunate for being in our situations, but very fortunate to have the courage, acceptance, and emotional strength to refuse to submit to unbearable meaningless suffering, but rather refuse to give up responsibility for what we experience, and so take matters back into our own hands.

Fearlessness is a result of this.

No matter what the situation - courts, debt collectors, banks - I am always calm, polite, considerate, and friendly, because I am not afraid of anything and therefore can choose not to suffer over any of this - a choice I often make and so can keep on enjoying whatever time I have left

 

[Peaceful_Sam]

I totally agree. We are very unfortunate for being in our situations, but very fortunate to have the courage, acceptance, and emotional strength to refuse to submit to unbearable meaningless suffering, but rather refuse to give up responsibility for what we experience, and so take matters back into our own hands.

Fearlessness is a result of this.

No matter what the situation - courts, debt collectors, banks - I am always calm, polite, considerate, and friendly, because I am not afraid of anything and therefore can choose not to suffer over any of this - a choice I often make and so can keep on enjoying whatever time I have left

We are basically twins!

 

[mnjkl]

Yeah I worked my ass off too, and did all kinds of guerilla marketing stuff.

Sorry to hear about your huge losses these last 9 months. That sucks!

But I TOTALLY get your last sentence! When I talk with creditors, collection agencies, and courts, and they say shit like "This will severely impact your credit rating! ", I feel like saying

HA HA HA HA HA HA FUCKING BLOW ME HA HA BLEEEEH NYA NAY NYA BLARGGGGGHHEEBLEEBLEBEBLEBLEEEEEEE

LOL I think the same thing. The first time a collection agency started calling me it felt like the end of the world, and now years later I just laugh at their empty threats of legal action and their better and better "one time only" settlement offers. For anyone else who has long given up on their credit rating, I highly recommend that you take out some payday loans and fuck off with the money. Those places prey on desperate people and I don't consider it immoral in the slightest to defraud them. The same goes for Mastercard and Visa, there's no sense dying without maxing out your cards first. Just be sure to pay back friends and family if you can.

 

[ralphnol]

Hahahahahahha.. They don't know what we're planning my friend!
We are soo lucky for having this ability to end it anytime we want. We are free from this system.
I wish good luck to people that still trapped in it.

there´s a quote by Emil Cioran who talks about that perfectly.

 

[Readytogo227]

Everyone hates rich people until they become one, this is not a good thing but jealousy and hypocrisy are in people's DNA.
I think money is very important in this world to live this short experience in a good and decent way. I personally don't care about money anymore even though my job is 100% about money. Put 10 billion dollars in front of me and I will still ctb.
Money is not a solution when you had enough of this world.

This is pretty much how I feel too. I'm not rich by any means, and can't afford therapy but even when I used to be able to, it didn't really help much. Even if I worked harder, better, faster, stronger or whatever, it just didn't matter to me. I still felt like I was just exhausted with this world.

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

The poor stay poor the rich get richer.

 

[ThriveOrDie]

I found the assistance reddit but I feel like an asshole asking for help. There are people suffering more than me and so many people who need help. Why should I get help? Why not just ctb so there aren't as many people in need. Then again it doesn't look like people are getting much help there.

 

[anonbpdgirl]

people can give away money that easy? I wish I could give homes to some stray cats near me. I feed them, and wanted to give a place and house for them. But I cant take even one in, because I have no money and live with others (family). So could anybody help or point me in the direction of it?

Just want to say, it's sweet of you to give what you can to the animals in your neighbourhood.

I found the assistance reddit but I feel like an asshole asking for help. There are people suffering more than me and so many people who need help. Why should I get help? Why not just ctb so there aren't as many people in need. Then again it doesn't look like people are getting much help there.

I feel that...

The poor stay poor the rich get richer.

Damn right. Fuck the world. Who the hell could want to live in such a miserable society?

 

[anonbpdgirl]

Not rude. Direct and honest. I don't do group hugs.

You came here hating this and hating that and 'Oh the world is against me because others have more than me'. FFS it's called life! I think the general idea is that you fight for what you want and it may pan out or not.

Christ, I get SO tired of this on SS sometimes. The 'life is unfair' thing and poor victim me. It probably IS, and I wonder about it, too, BUT first and foremost I look to myself and ask 'OK, what did YOU do to improve your life'?

I find it incredible that so many SSers have upvoted your post when it's just a 'Woe is me. Everyone else has it easy and only me is a victim'. I don't get it.

You have no idea what people do to get through, and what they have tried. I appreciate not being targeted against on my own post when you have literally zero clue about my life, what I do and how I try.

So what if life *is* unfair? So what if people like to complain a lot here? Life is fucking hard, why not have a safer place where you can just fucking... say that shit? Where for five minutes you can be sad, you can be selfish, you can cry for yourself? People are allowed that. We are allowed that.

If you don't like this website, leave it.

 

[JWL]

You have no idea what people do to get through, and what they have tried. I appreciate not being targeted against on my own post when you have literally zero clue about my life, what I do and how I try.

So what if life *is* unfair? So what if people like to complain a lot here? Life is fucking hard, why not have a safer place where you can just fucking... say that shit? Where for five minutes you can be sad, you can be selfish, you can cry for yourself? People are allowed that. We are allowed that.

If you don't like this website, leave it.

No, if you don't like other views on ctb bar the fluffy bunnies approach, you leave it.

You're right, I have not idea what others have done to get through life (and vice-versa!), but I'm pretty damn sure no one saunters through life without their decisions and actions acting on and shaping their lives. So to seek to avoid responsibility for your life is so bloody immature in my view.

We're all here for pretty much the same reasons (except some seriously plan ctb, others just seem to want to seek attention), but we are entitled to express it in our own way.

Nothing I said was rude or disrepectful. The OP came in with a ridiculously scathing attack on society and everything in it because things were not good for the OP. Not the slightest intention of looking to self for some answers. No. It's 'the world' to blame. Well that's utter rot, and a little more honesty wouldn't go amiss from others here on that score.


Edit: P.S. Cancelled. Not relevant....

 

[woxihuanni]

No, if you don't like other views on ctb bar the fluffy bunnies approach, you leave it.

You're right, I have not idea what others have done to get through life (and vice-versa!), but I'm pretty damn sure no one saunters through life without their decisions and actions acting on and shaping their lives. So to seek to avoid responsibility for your life is so bloody immature in my view.

We're all here for pretty much the same reasons (except some seriously plan ctb, others just seem to want to seek attention), but we are entitled to express it in our own way.

Nothing I said was rude or disrepectful. The OP came in with a ridiculously scathing attack on society and everything in it because things were not good for the OP. Not the slightest intention of looking to self for some answers. No. It's 'the world' to blame. Well that's utter rot, and a little more honesty wouldn't go amiss from others here on that score.

I also don't like the woe-is-me taken to the level of taking issue with other people who want to die in 'better' circumstances. Neither do I believe having therapy/meds is a magic solution. However, assuming that somebody does not want to take responsibility, the problem is that nobody consented to exist in the first place. If they want to die rather than take responsibility, that is their call as well.

Yeah but people live or die with varying degrees of courage and grace. I'm not very brave accepting I have no way out, myself. Just scared.

 

[JWL]

the problem is that nobody consented to exist in the first place. If they want to die rather than take responsibility, that is their call as well.

Fine, but that IS just opinion. I actually have a belief system that says we absolutely consented to take on this (and other lives). Other systems are many, so it doesn't really matter..

 

[woxihuanni]

Fine, but that IS just opinion. I actually have a belief system that says we absolutely consented to take on this (and other lives). Other systems are many, so it doesn't really matter..

Yeah I definitely don't share the belief. It's OK.

 

[JWL]

If they want to die rather than take responsibility, that is their call as well.

No problem. Just don't whinge and whine to others about how it's all the world's fault - nothing at all to do with innocent little you (generic you) - and everyone else is a swine for apparently having a better deal than you. Childish!

 

[anonbpdgirl]

No problem. Just don't whinge and whine to others about how it's all the world's fault - nothing at all to do with innocent little you (generic you) - and everyone else is a swine for apparently having a better deal than you. Childish!

Yeah, literally no one said that man.

Anyway, you're kinda upsetting me. I'd really like it if you left my post please.

 

[JWL]

Yeah, literally no one said that man.

Anyway, you're kinda upsetting me. I'd really like it if you left my post please.

No. That's not how this site works. You don't get to lay the emotional blackmail on fellow SSers "You're upsetting me, so don't press your opposing views" so that you can shut others up. I thought I'd made that clear in another thread where someone attempted to do the same thing.

If you're so upset and don't like my take on ctb apparently you can 'ignore' me (I had no idea there was such an option, but wouldn't avail myself of it since I'm never afraid of other people's opposite viewpoints).

 

[anonbpdgirl]

No. That's not how this site works. You don't get to lay the emotional blackmail on fellow SSers "You're upsetting me, so don't press your opposing views" so that you can shut others up. I thought I'd made that clear in another thread where someone attempted to do the same thing.

If you're so upset and don't like my take on ctb apparently you can 'ignore' me (I had no idea there was such an option, but wouldn't avail myself of it since I'm never afraid of other people's opposite viewpoints).

Ignored. Thanks.

 

[JWL]

Ignored. Thanks.

Thank goodness...

 

[Readytogo227]

No problem. Just don't whinge and whine to others about how it's all the world's fault - nothing at all to do with innocent little you (generic you) - and everyone else is a swine for apparently having a better deal than you. Childish!

They can post whatever they want. Just as you can.

 

[JWL]

They can post whatever they want. Just as you can.

Quite right. I agree. At least, I agree up to the point where the hysterical emotional blackmail card is brought out in order to silence dissenting views.

Then I disagree.

 

[Rachel74]

Everyone hates rich people until they become one, this is not a good thing but jealousy and hypocrisy are in people's DNA.
I think money is very important in this world to live this short experience in a good and decent way. I personally don't care about money anymore even though my job is 100% about money. Put 10 billion dollars in front of me and I will still ctb.
Money is not a solution when you had enough of this world.

Contact me if you need any financial help!

I totally agree here. Yes I'm lucky to live in the U.K. where we have free treatment but even the richest people in the world still ctb as they've had enough of life and enough of fighting. I've had 22 years of treatment and therapy and I still want to ctb. When it comes to death there is no difference between rich and poor, we all die.

 

[Mercury6737]

The 'life is unfair' thing and poor victim me. It probably IS, and I wonder about it, too, BUT first and foremost I look to myself and ask 'OK, what did YOU do to improve your life'?

I find it incredible that so many SSers have upvoted your post when it's just a 'Woe is me. Everyone else has it easy and only me is a victim'. I don't get it.

In fairness, one could easily phrase what you said as an argument against people who have a desire to CTB.

 

[woxihuanni]

In fairness, one could easily phrase what you said as an argument against people who have a desire to CTB.

I think the one fine line crossed here is sounding accusatory towards others who want to ctb just because they have a little more money.

 

[TheNorthernSilence]

Yea I also don't like the idea of money. I've always been relatively poor but my problems aren't because the lack of money, it's about the kind of world we live in. I don't seem to fit in anywhere. It is almost as if a part of the brain is missing in me. If I won the lottery I wouldn't feel any better and still would like to ctb.

 

[burnedCookie]

Not rude. Direct and honest. I don't do group hugs.

You came here hating this and hating that and 'Oh the world is against me because others have more than me'. FFS it's called life! I think the general idea is that you fight for what you want and it may pan out or not.

Christ, I get SO tired of this on SS sometimes. The 'life is unfair' thing and poor victim me. It probably IS, and I wonder about it, too, BUT first and foremost I look to myself and ask 'OK, what did YOU do to improve your life'?

I find it incredible that so many SSers have upvoted your post when it's just a 'Woe is me. Everyone else has it easy and only me is a victim'. I don't get it.

Jordan Peterson I command you to leave that body immediately !!! :)

I don't agree with most of the things OP said but I'm not triggered by it either. I think some people just need to express things they believe are unfair and more importantly receive approval from others without getting crushed down.

So if someone does that and I don't agree I just unclick and leave the place, in no way will I try to convince them they are wrong, no point in doing that, and who am I to believe I'm right anyway. It's kinda therapeutic...for everyone.

 

[Mercury6737]

I think the one fine line crossed here is sounding accusatory towards others who want to ctb just because they have a little more money.

I personally didn't see anything accusatory. The entire post screams frustration.

 

[woxihuanni]

I personally didn't see anything accusatory. The entire post screams frustration.

Sure, it comes of a place of frustration.