Discussion Isn't everyone committing suicide really?

[PaxAmerica]

Drinking, smoking, drugs, driving fast, eating red meat, sunbathing, workaholic, join army, contact sports etc all pose dangers to long term life span but people do them. We only look down on suicide because its immediate. But there's not so much difference. Is there?

 

[demuic]

Life is just a slow march toward the grave.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Committing suicide is committing suicide I dont see a good reason to spin acts of self harm or stressors as acts of suicide. Thats to me is not philosophically sound argument.

 

[PaxAmerica]

Committing suicide is committing suicide I dont see a good reason to spin acts of self harm or stressors as acts of suicide. Thats to me is not philosophically sound argument.

Of course suicide is suicide. Your right. My point is people look down on suicide as though its a crime to take your own God given life. But yet we take all kinds of risks in life which no one seems to bat an eyelid to in the same way. Does that make sense?

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand what you mean, many people are slowly committing suicide over decades even if they are not exactly aware of it. No matter what happens, we will die anyway, all life leads to death. There shouldn't be so much stigma towards suicide, a right to die is important.

 

[LenkaX]

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love.

 

[motel rooms]

Drinking, smoking, drugs, driving fast, eating red meat, sunbathing, workaholic, join army, contact sports etc all pose dangers to long term life span

I only eat raw meat, both when I feed myself & when I engage in risky contact sports

 

[PaxAmerica]

I only eat raw meat, both when I feed myself & when I engage in risky contact sports

Your posts make this place cool

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love. I'm thinking more a spoonful of SN than sugar

Perhaps but it is a suicide website so we are not exactly Mary Poppins people to begin with

 

[motel rooms]

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love.

I'm glad you've found sarcasm, buddy. It's definitely much more fun when people like us find sarcasm than when they find God

 

[ClownMe]

I see where you're coming from but in my opinion it's still different to suicide, you can still do most of the things you mentioned above and have a long life, all you need is a decent genetic makeup and some luck. Also, some of these things might keep people from becoming depressed/suicidal, i know a handful of people who wouldn't be able to cope with life without cigarettes and beer.

 

[PaxAmerica]

I see where you're coming from but in my opinion it's still different to suicide, you can still do most of the things you mentioned above and have a long life, all you need is a decent genetic makeup and some luck. Also, some of these things might keep people from becoming depressed/suicidal, i know a handful of people who wouldn't be able to cope with life without cigarettes and beer.

Yes it is diffetent but there are similarities. A matter of degrees. But it illustrates societies crazy stance on suicide.

 

[ClownMe]

But it illustrates societies cray stance on suicide.

I can agree on that.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love.

Never thought I'd read something like this on this website.

 

[Fragile]

But there's not so much difference. Is there?

There's a world of difference.

The actions that you mentioned only have death, or a shorter lifespan, as an unintended consequence. Suicide is different because death is exactly what you're looking for.

This is no different from saying something dumb like "you breath air, therefore you must want to live, checkmate suicidal people"

 

[PaxAmerica]

There's a world of difference.

The actions that you mentioned only have death, or a shorter lifespan, as an unintended consequence. Suicide is different because death is exactly what you're looking for.

This is no different from saying something dumb like "you breath air, therefore you must want to live, checkmate suicidal people"

Thats actually true. But then I didnt say it is the same thing either. Just that there isnt 'so much difference' as people like to make out.

 

[Fragile]

Thats actually true. But then I didnt say it is the same thing either. Just that there isnt 'so much difference' as people like to make out.

But there is, risk-taking is not necessarily wanting to die. Quite the opposite, some of the things you mentioned are usually a way to enjoy life in one way or the other, some people do them specifically because they want to avoid the thought of their inevitable death and have a good time while they can.

There are thousands of good arguments for suicide, but this isn't one of them.

 

[PaxAmerica]

But there is, risk-taking is not necessarily wanting to die. Quite the opposite, some of the things you mentioned are usually a way to enjoy life in one way or the other, some people do them specifically because they want to avoid the thought of their inevitable death and have a good time while they can.

There are thousands of good arguments for suicide, but this isn't one of them.

Dont think i said it was a good argument for suicide. Just highlighted the fact suicide is held as such a taboo yet taking years off your life smoking, binge drinking etc is often accepted as social norms as they arent immediate to death and generate revenue. I actually accept what your saying too. Of course drinking can bring joy as well. And no of course suicide is not something we should have to do. Its just that some people are at the end of their mind through life's problems.

 

[Hurt]

Thats what I would call a slow suicide but I dont wanna wait

 

[xaea13]

Of course suicide is suicide. Your right. My point is people look down on suicide as though its a crime to take your own God given life. But yet we take all kinds of risks in life which no one seems to bat an eyelid to in the same way. Does that make sense?

They don't do those things with the aim of taking their life. At its core the stigma against suicide just comes out of the assumption that we all have the basic survival instinct, and suicidal behavior is an aberration from that (not to mention the very real harm it does to those close to you, that's just a fact)

 

[Meliæ]

Everybody's dying, that's fact

 

[Dear Agony]

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love.

Some people have depression, Karen.

 

[doesntevenmatter]

You make some really great points. It's something interesting to think about. The big issue is people just judge way too much. You'll have people who eat big macs every day who will judge someone for drinking all the time, and vice-versa you'll have people who are constantly putting alcohol and drugs into their body who will judge heavy people. At the end of the day every breath we take is a breath closer to death, no matter how or when we go. People should be able to do whatever they enjoy, and if they choose to end their life that should be their choice too. But I do get what you are saying, even though we all know there is a clear difference it still doesn't give people the right to judge us for our choices even if that means we CTB.

 

[Meliæ]

Hm.. you seem too negative. See the life as an opportunity to be happy with your family and friends. To travel, to eat good food and to make love.

Life is an opportunity to experience being yourself in dignity.
Empowering ourselves and freeing ourselves from that slavery is our way to live a dignifying life.

 

[Alec]

Drinking, smoking, drugs, driving fast, eating red meat, sunbathing, workaholic, join army, contact sports etc all pose dangers to long term life span but people do them. We only look down on suicide because its immediate. But there's not so much difference. Is there?

Completely agree. Most people are willingly ignore that all those are forms of suicide too.

 

[Lost Magic]

I think there is a difference between leading an unhealthy lifestyle than the immediacy of suicide. I get your point though. I think most people just want to escape from this boring reality.