If world is paradise, do you still want to ctb?

[Dr Iron Arc]

Everyone is vegan/vegetarian so no animals suffering. If people like meat they can eat meat grown with stem cells (tastes the same).

Everything else sounded alright but this alone would be enough to make me definitely want to CTB. Meat just tastes better knowing it came from something that it was once alive and had to be killed. There's something about the potential suffering that makes food seem more delicious and satisfying, to me at least.

Now if life was a paradise for me and me alone, then that's a pretty good way to make everyone else want to CTB.

 

[Davey36000]

No no I mean mental exhaustion, like just philosophically finding life tiring. The brain can't be busy forever, it needs rest. I have caffeine for physical exhaustion lol

Meditation can help

 

[thealteredmind]

bro for real? if 99% of diseases have been cured then that means depression, pssd, benzo withdrawal, insomnia have cure.

so that means... I will live, of course. I actually want to live. but the pain is excruciating. so... I want to live a good life, not a life filled with pain and more pain and more and more and more pain (of all types, of course)

No I don't think the world makes any difference to people who want to CTB.

Wanting to CTB is caused by depression which makes us see negative, sadness, hate and hopelessness.

To thrive in this world I'd need to be cured of depression, external influences don't have that much of an impact. They are of course a factor but not everything.

your depression can be fixed in this utopia.

I don't want any kind of existence under any circumstances, I just want nothingness, simply just existing causes me to suffer. I simply see nothing desirable about existing as a conscious being and it's all unnecessary anyway, only the eternal absence of existence is perfection to me.

yeah that's depression.

 

[LunarGirl]

I think if it was my own personal paradise then maybe not, a lot of my thoughts and feelings come from the way the world is. But, they also come from people, and a paradise isn't going to change how humans are fundamentally.

 

[theboy]

live

 

[sadman710]

Lol @ people saying CTB is just mental. I never had any remote inclination to CTB until the last 6 months and it's purely circumstantial. I always said when I was younger "I would never consider CTB ever unless this absurd shit took place". Now here it is every which way. I would have never predicted 10 - 15 years ago things would get disasterous in the world and my personal life, but here it is. Pass me a glass of N please and thank you.

 

[Ambivalent1]

A utopia doesn't change my situation at all.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think I'd enjoy your world for a while but, who really knows? Sometimes the things we think will make us happy turn out to be disappointing.

If we were born into your world, we'd have nothing to compare it to. Nothing to feel grateful for really because maybe the opposite wouldn't exist. Isn't that why we're grateful? Because, things are better for us than they have been or, we aren't suffering as much as some other poor sod?!!

I wonder if there is a part in all of us that looks to feel disatisfied and unfulfilled. I guess that's what makes us keep looking for new things. I don't know really. Maybe part of the problem is me and I don't especially want to put in the effort to change!

Still- CTB is frightening so, at least in your world, it would be easier to just hang around till natural death comes along. But there again- death is a problem. We still end up losing the people we love presumably? We can't all live forever- or- can we? In which case- say your great, great, great grandmother has had enough of life and wants out. Her hundreds of grandchildren are still going to miss her though- even if it's what she wants. How do you please everyone? I don't think you can. Things could definitely be a lot better but I'm not sure there is a perfect solution that would suit everyone simultaneously.

 

[ringo99]

Paradise is relative. One man's paradise could be another's hell

 

[Praestat_Mori]

There's paradise on earth as long as one can live their lives how they want to live it.

It's pretty much subjective how everyone of us defines their "paradise".

 

[Davey36000]

There's paradise on earth as long as one can live their lives how they want to live it.

It's pretty much subjective how everyone of us defines their "paradise".

What if they can't live their lives as they would prefer to live? We live in a very constrictive world. Unless you are born in a rich family, you don't have a lot of freedom.

Also, I would argue some things are universally good.

Like free or cheaper housing, healthcare, medicine, etc.

But even a more conscious world would make a big difference. We wouldn't have as many suicidal people on this forum as a result, or even a suicide forum.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

What if they can't live their lives as they would prefer to live?

They probably consider suicide like I do myself in this case.