I wish I lived in Oregon! Must see movie about legal suicide..

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[whywere]

I believe in quality vs quantity. I have chronic pain 24/7 and i am 64 years young. When and if it comes time where the pain is eating me alive I WILL ctb period. I am a firm believer that we all should have the freedom to choose. I am NOT ctb or pro life, I just want a sound decision and NOT a government telling me what I can and can not do.

 

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, I just want a sound decision and NOT a government telling me what I can and can not do.

This nice lady in the movie was lucky enough to live in a state where she had the choice to end her suffering with dignity.
She was given pentobarbital and said over and over at the end "this is so easy! Tell people this is so easy."
Imagine, having the choice of such an easy way out. In my opinion it's worth living in Oregon just for that.

That movie is excellent and worth watching. It shows how it is for some people. Easy. It's available to rent on Amazon.

 

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[dysfunctional]

I live on Oregon. If you look at the state website, it says you must have a terminal illness from which you will die in 6 months. Probably doesn't apply to most of us on this site.

 

[Deformationalplagio]

Man i live in belgium in litterly the most open country when it comes to assisted suicide and let me tell you this. You will never get assisted suicide for depresion ever for most chronic pains you wont even get it. It happens yeah that somebody gets it for mental problems but this is supper supper rare and will take months of going to doctors and doing paperwork. I live with a serious facial deformity and even i got a no. So dont dream to big about one docu because it misses the bigger picture

 

[justpeachy]

There's multiple US states with Death with Dignity Laws. They also discuss WA state in there. I used to live in WA but moved awhile ago. There's VERY strict rules though and not many ppl even get to do it. You must have a TERMINAL illness, 6 months or less to live reported by multiple doctors, multiple doctors to sign off, mental health to sign off that you have 0 mental health issues and no history of attempts/hospitalizations, you cannot do it for mental health period. It is great for a very select group of people, yes. But the majority of people do not fit into all those categories especially here I believe. My aunt did it, well tried and got approved but died before she finished all the stuff to get the meds. She had stage 4 pancreatic cancer, I believe that's what the lady had in that documentary. Another good death type documentary that is fascinating is time of death. you can get it on amazon. it's worth paying for, get tissues.

I live on Oregon. If you look at the state website, it says you must have a terminal illness from which you will die in 6 months. Probably doesn't apply to most of us on this site.

yep. same with wa and the other us states. if you have any history of mental illness you will never get approved either. i have an aunt who went through the whole process for stage 4 pancreatic cancer, the most painful cancer essentially and the most deadly but she died suffering prior to getting meds. she dies basically bleeding out internally and choking on her own vomit and blood vs just falling asleep due to all the red tape around it. you must also be a resident of that state which takes a minimum of 6 months so unless you already live there you would likely die before you got approved and we'rea resident.

 

[Buffy5120]

Man i live in belgium in litterly the most open country when it comes to assisted suicide and let me tell you this. You will never get assisted suicide for depresion ever for most chronic pains you wont even get it. It happens yeah that somebody gets it for mental problems but this is supper supper rare and will take months of going to doctors and doing paperwork. I live with a serious facial deformity and even i got a no. So dont dream to big about one docu because it misses the bigger picture

Doesn't hurt to try i have tinnitus + 100 other physical conditions and with tinnitus many got approved for this in switzerland

 

[justpeachy]

Doesn't hurt to try i have tinnitus + 100 other physical conditions and with tinnitus many got approved for this in switzerland

if you live in the us you will have to pay just a processing fee for them to even look at your app. very few even get approved. i have seen many in here try even some with very severe illnesses and they took their several hundred dollars to deny them. you won't get it back either.

 

[Deformationalplagio]

Doesn't hurt to try i have tinnitus + 100 other physical conditions and with tinnitus many got approved for this in switzerland

Tittinus is 1 of my symptoms too so i know what you're going trough ( i have plagiocephaly its a twisted skull my front part of the skull so my face etc grew in an 10 degree angle so it looks like im looking at my left all the time very weird stuff. Im pretty sure titinus is caused by asymmetrical ears and ear canals. I have been researching this for some years now. Did you ever concidered going for a 3d ct scan to check for cranial base asymmetries? And you wont get assisted suicide for tittinus atleast it would be very rare and you will have to go trough a judge etc long procedure with minimal chances of a good outcome.

 

[Buffy5120]

if you live in the us you will have to pay just a processing fee for them to even look at your app. very few even get approved. i have seen many in here try even some with very severe illnesses and they took their several hundred dollars to deny them. you won't get it back either.

I've been saving up but did those people get rejected from Pegasos too?

 

[justpeachy]

I've been saving up but did those people get rejected from Pegasos too?

i'm not sure. i know for sure dignatas has. if you haven't i would search it or make a post asking about it as i've seen a lot of ppl try and not mention the name of the company to be devastated at losing the money. just wrong they don't give back the funds if they deny you.

 

[Buffy5120]

Tittinus is 1 of my symptoms too so i know what you're going trough ( i have plagiocephaly its a twisted skull my front part of the skull so my face etc grew in an 10 degree angle so it looks like im looking at my left all the time very weird stuff. Im pretty sure titinus is caused by asymmetrical ears and ear canals. I have been researching this for some years now. Did you ever concidered going for a 3d ct scan to check for cranial base asymmetries? And you wont get assisted suicide for tittinus atleast it would be very rare and you will have to go trough a judge etc long procedure with minimal chances of a good outcome.

I got tinnitus from an mri a month ago the techs never gave me construction muffs and i was in there for 2 hours. I also have hyperacusis which is worse than tinnitus bc i cant watch tv, instagram, talk to people nothing. Im also in a wheelchair

 

[Mixo]

I watched this film for the first time 2 years ago, when I was seriously planning self-euthanasia (and I guess I'm still on that road). It was a balanced, empathetic, and honest look at what it's like to die with dignity, without any bullshit propaganda or guilt/religion mongering that pervades so much of the typical debates on euthanasia.

I think I was most impressed by the general attitudes and reactions of family members who talked about their loved ones' decisions to go. I'm sure they struggled to come to terms with it but at some point of enough reflection and witnessing their suffering, they probably realized how selfish it is to keep someone alive suffering needlessly. At the other end of the pole, though, I was kind of saddened by the fact that this is probably a measure of relieving cost burden for the healthcare system in Oregon. But it's still progressive choice to allow it, since there's only a few American states that allow this. If only they'd do the same for people with other chronic ailments. Thanks for sharing it here.

 

[Deformationalplagio]

I got tinnitus from an mri a month ago the techs never gave me construction muffs and i was in there for 2 hours. I also have hyperacusis which is worse than tinnitus bc i cant watch tv, instagram, talk to people nothing. Im also in a wheelchair

Thats sad to hear :( . I also have scoliosis wich makes walking very painfull but its a type of scoliosis that cant be treated sadly. I really wished my euthanasia got approved but my condition is in such a dark field because its so rare and there isnt much clinical data for it. Heck even when you look it up on google its stated that its a benign condition wich makes it really hard because doctors usually dont take it serious because of it. Its sad that i have to go by my own hand because its quite scary and i have been roaming in here for quite some time because i dont have the balls to do it. It makes the suffering even worse :/

 

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relieving cost burden for the healthcare system

That's not it at all. The healthcare system everywhere in the U.S. makes a huge profit. They want to keep people alive not kill them. All the treatments medicines and hospital visits are how they make money.

I also have scoliosis wich makes walking very painfull but its a type of scoliosis that cant be treated sadly.

I see you are in Belgium. Why can't you use the legal way there? Sorry to be so dumb, but I thought it wasn't that hard if you have medical problems that cause suffering?

 

[Deformationalplagio]

That's not it at all. The healthcare system everywhere in the U.S. makes a huge profit. They want to keep people alive not kill them. All the treatments medicines and hospital visits are how they make money.

I see you are in Belgium. Why can't you use the legal way there? Sorry to be so dumb, but I thought it wasn't that hard if you have medical problems that cause suffering?

I tried, but even here euthanasia is quite rare for mental health problems. Because facial disfugerment and deformities are treated as cosmetic problems and not really as fysical problems. Few months ago someone had euthanasia for depresion and the parents went to court to sue the doctors. they lost, but because of that i dont see a to bright future in euthanasia anymore in belgium. Right now you almost have to be terminal ill to have euthanasia

 

[Buffy5120]

I tried, but even here euthanasia is quite rare for mental health problems. Because facial disfugerment and deformities are treated as cosmetic problems and not really as fysical problems. Few months ago someone had euthanasia for depresion and the parents went to court to sue the doctors. they lost, but because of that i dont see a to bright future in euthanasia anymore in belgium. Right now you almost have to be terminal ill to have euthanasia

Thats sad to hear :( . I also have scoliosis wich makes walking very painfull but its a type of scoliosis that cant be treated sadly. I really wished my euthanasia got approved but my condition is in such a dark field because its so rare and there isnt much clinical data for it. Heck even when you look it up on google its stated that its a benign condition wich makes it really hard because doctors usually dont take it serious because of it. Its sad that i have to go by my own hand because its quite scary and i have been roaming in here for quite some time because i dont have the balls to do it. It makes the suffering even worse :/

Sorry about ur issues too...im just gunna try cus i havent told you i also have a shit load of other illnesses that were even accepted for assisted s here in the US...i think i might have a chance and i just this morning i found out i have yet another life threatening illness that is making my life a living hell...my life just keeps getting shittier and shittier by the second im even asking myself how the fuck is this real how can someone go through all of this shit all at once

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

i really felt for that woman Kodi. she was so full of life but in the end she had to do what was best for her.

 

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i really felt for that woman Kodi. she was so full of life

She was pretty and likable. At the end of the movie you could see her abdomen was very big so she was at that time suffering badly. It was a blessing she had an easy way out. So many horrible illnesses cause such terrible suffering.

 

[Bauhaus]

The one thing I remembered from this docu is that when the interviewer asked that old lady (forgot her name) what she thought about euthanasia for mentally ill people, her answer was: "That's just psychological" (not the exact words, but something along that line).
From that moment she immediately lost any respect or compassion I had for her. It just show you that in the end only your own disease matters and not that of someone else.

@Deformationalplagio: Fully agree with you, just because you live in a country that allows euthanasia doesn't mean it's easy to get it. It's usually for the "privileged", aka the ones who are terminally ill.

The healthcare system everywhere in the U.S. makes a huge profit. They want to keep people alive not kill them. All the treatments medicines and hospital visits are how they make money.

That doesn't make sense to me, hospital treatments cost tons of money and only those with an insurance can afford them. I recently saw the docu "The Waiting Room (2012)" about a hospital in the US and they showed long queues of people who couldn't afford an insurance and were the last in line to get any treatment (if at all).

 

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That doesn't make sense to me, hospital treatments cost tons of money

Yes they cost tons of money. In the US a fortune. That is how they make money. ON the ones that pay. Do you think one aspirin really costs $14?

 

[Bauhaus]

Yes they cost tons of money. In the US a fortune. That is how they make money. ON the ones that pay. Do you think one aspirin really costs $14?

Sorry, I didn't realize there are that many rich people in the US.

 

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Sorry, I didn't realize there are that many rich people in the US.

They have insurance.

 

[Bauhaus]

They have insurance.

Yes, that's what I meant, I used the wrong word (assurance) in my post, corrected it now.