Discussion I wish attempting suicide would guarantee death

[LXR515]

I'd have clocked myself out YEARS ago and been free of all this misery and pain if only I knew for 100% that I would be able to die without failure/hospitalizing myself or crippling myself for life. It's so fucking frustrating you have to account for so much just to finally get some peace

 

[James Sunderland]

It's infuriating to feel trapped in that place where even finding peace feels complicated and full of risks. You've been carrying this for a long time, and I can't imagine how exhausting that must be. If you ever want to talk about what's weighing on you or just need a space to let it out, I'm here in this thread.

 

[LXR515]

It's infuriating to feel trapped in that place where even finding peace feels complicated and full of risks. You've been carrying this for a long time, and I can't imagine how exhausting that must be. If you ever want to talk about what's weighing on you or just need a space to let it out, I'm here in this thread.

Ty I appreciate that. I wish venting would give me some meaningful relief or an ease from my pain but it'll just come back the next day until I'm finally dead. I feel in no way prepared for the real world and I'm just sick of it all

 

[James Sunderland]

Yeah! It's like venting gives a tiny bit of release, but the weight just settles back in afterward. The "real world" can feel pretty overwhelming, especially when every day feels like you're just trying to survive it.

 

[DexterPig]

Uncertainty is the one thing stopping me. My absolute worst fear is becoming significantly disabled from an attempt and my mom of all people being my caretaker. Not to mention forced to talk to therapists until I can pretend I'm "okay" again

 

[Leiot]

I'd have clocked myself out YEARS ago and been free of all this misery and pain if only I knew for 100% that I would be able to die without failure/hospitalizing myself or crippling myself for life. It's so fucking frustrating you have to account for so much just to finally get some peace

I can tell you from personal experience that it doesn't always work. I tried OD'ing on oxycodone. Took an entire bottle (> 90 tablets) and I got drowsy. I was on some pretty high powered pain killers at the time anyway - fentanyl.

My psychiatrist at the VA told me about a vet she worked with. Guy was a combat vet, clearly knew about how to use a firearm. Tried to CTB by shooting himself in the head. Didn't do it. Bounced off his skull but scrambled everything up pretty bad. I remember her telling me that the only thing scarier than suicide is not succeeding.

 

[FuneralCry]

I also wish for such as well, personally all I want is to never wake again, I wish to be permanently free from this cruel, torturous existence where I cannot suffer for all eternity, non-existence truly is all I hope and wish for. I'd always prefer to not exist than to suffer for potentially decades longer just to be tortured by extreme old age, in fact the thought of that terrifies me, it's just so painful how I cannot just die in a peaceful, guaranteed way with no risks of trying to die leading to way worse agony, I find it horrific how trying to die can go wrong.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

So what's the solution? Isn't hanging pretty reliable? Robin Williams and Kate spade did it…I feel like there's gotta be a way to do this. I've watched the videos of people hanging them selves it looks pretty easy. If my vision wasn't so bad I would fight. But visial
Issues plus Insomnia plus walking difficulties are enough to end it.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Same. I hate how uncertain suicide attempts are. If it wasn't uncertain, I would have been gone already. If I were to fail a suicide attempt and get permanent injuries, it would have been better if I never attempted in the first place. I may just have to risk it because death is worth it and I need to escape existence asap

 

[Leyna]

Agreed, if I was 100% sure jumping off or running in front of a car would've 100% done me in within a few hours, even if there was a shit ton of pain, I would've done it ages ago. The risk of getting treatment or screwing up your brain is too high with these things to risk it.

 

[feelinggloomy]

I totally agree I pray that I wake up one day and there is a switch I could turn off. I'm terrified of failing. It's one more layer of suffering. Feel for you

 

[howunfortunateforme]

Agreed, if I was 100% sure jumping off or running in front of a car would've 100% done me in within a few hours, even if there was a shit ton of pain, I would've done it ages ago. The risk of getting treatment or screwing up your brain is too high with these things to risk it.

Yea treatment will
Make it worse. But we gotta try no? There has to be a way so many people are successful at this!

Same. I hate how uncertain suicide attempts are. If it wasn't uncertain, I would have been gone already. If I were to fail a suicide attempt and get permanent injuries, it would have been better if I never attempted in the first place. I may just have to risk it because death is worth it and I need to escape existence asap

That's how I feel. I need stats like 85 percent of partial
Work if you do a b c

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

I'd have clocked myself out YEARS ago and been free of all this misery and pain if only I knew for 100% that I would be able to die without failure/hospitalizing myself or crippling myself for life. It's so fucking frustrating you have to account for so much just to finally get some peace

Me too . They stole a guaranteed way out of this hell . They made Nembutal, helping in suicide, cyanide capsules, sarco etc crimes to make this world a worse prison

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

Nembutal and legal assistant dying is currently available in Switzerland through non-profit organizations Dignitas and Pegasus. Also, people do not have to be terminally ill, just adults who are capable of making decisions for themselves. It's also legal and available in 11 other countries. There's also currently talk of expanding to include many more than just the terminally ill in countries such as Canada and the UK.

VAD and MAID are here already, and if you can afford it, you can travel to Switzerland and have it done very quickly. It's also the future in all developed countries, we just need to speak up and push to speed up the process.

It's true, there should be no reason for people to have to resort to the various risky, painful, and inhumane methods of suicide to escape their unrelentingly suffering. Dogs and cats have had the method and the right to a peaceful escape from their suffering for eons now, just not people.

If everyone keeps their mouth shut on this issue, then it will likely take 20 years for legal assisted dying to be available for all who need it. But if people speak up, it's possible that it could happen in as little as a few months. There is no reason why millions of people need to continue suffering intolerably for another 20 years!

 

[doneforlife]

Nembutal and legal assistant dying is currently available in Switzerland through non-profit organizations Dignitas and Pegasus. Also, people do not have to be terminally ill, just adults who are capable of making decisions for themselves. It's also legal and available in 11 other countries. There's also currently talk of expanding to include many more than just the terminally ill in countries such as Canada and the UK.

VAD and MAID are here already, and if you can afford it, you can travel to Switzerland and have it done very quickly. It's also the future in all developed countries, we just need to speak up and push to speed up the process.

It's true, there should be no reason for people to have to resort to the various risky, painful, and inhumane methods of suicide to escape their unrelentingly suffering. Dogs and cats have had the method and the right to a peaceful escape from their suffering for eons now, just not people.

If everyone keeps their mouth shut on this issue, then it will likely take 20 years for legal assisted dying to be available for all who need it. But if people speak up, it's possible that it could happen in as little as a few months. There is no reason why millions of people need to continue suffering intolerably for another 20 years!

You think this can be achieved?

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

You think this can be achieved?

Absolutely. The majority of people just need to realize that because of the fragility of human life, slipping off the tracks and ending up in a state of chronic suffering can happen to anyone, and in a heartbeat. Especially when due to medical advancements, we're keeping people alive for so much longer than in recent history. It's very important to talk about and push for VAD and MAID however (not unassisted suicide), because they are both legal.

Because societies around the world have extended life so dramatically, 85-90% of people will now end up suffering at some point in their life. Only 10 to 15% will drop dead instantly of natural causes. Once the word gets out about this little nugget of truth, we're going to see things change (for the better) very, very quickly.

I believe that people will NOT be forced to commit dangerous and inhumane acts of unassisted suicide in the very near future. There is a financial incentive for governments to keep people suffering, but the world will not tolerate this for much longer.

 

[doneforlife]

Absolutely. The majority of people just need to realize that because of the fragility of human life, slipping off the tracks and ending up in a state of chronic suffering can happen to anyone, and in a heartbeat. Especially when due to medical advancements, we're keeping people alive for so much longer than in recent history. It's very important to talk about and push for VAD and MAID however (not unassisted suicide), because they are both legal.

Because societies around the world have extended life so dramatically, 85-90% of people will now end up suffering at some point in their life. Only 10 to 15% will drop dead instantly of natural causes. Once the word gets out about this little nugget of truth, we're going to see things change (for the better) very, very quickly.

I thought it was already in place for chronically ill people already. Canada , Belgium, Switzerland all have VAD .

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

I thought it was already in place for chronically ill people already. Canada , Belgium, Switzerland all have VAD

It is, but I'm referring to the expansion of this to include ALL adults who feel they are suffering intolerably, not just those who are terminally or chronically ill. The scope of people who qualify now is far too narrow. Switzerland is very close now to offering this for people, but it is expensive, and there is international travel involved.

 

[xulam]

I'm so scared it won't work. it's the main thing holding me back. I can't imagine the pain and shame of having to face people after failing to do it.

 

[doneforlife]

It is, but I'm referring to the expansion of this to include ALL adults who feel they are suffering intolerably, not just those who are terminally or chronically ill. The scope of people who qualify now is far too narrow. Switzerland is very close now to offering this for people, but it is expensive, and there is international travel involved.

I have heard that MAiD got pushed to 2027. I think a lot of people resisted to this. Is there any further info on this ? I hope even if they do this , they take subjective pain into consideration .

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

I have heard that MAiD got pushed to 2027. I think a lot of people resisted to this. Is there any further info on this ? I hope even if they do this , they take subjective pain into consideration .

No, MAID has been in place for years now in Canada, it was just the expansion to include those who are mentally ill that was pushed back to 2027. The world is very close to being at the tipping point on this issue, and once that happens, things will progress very quickly.

 

[doneforlife]

No, MAID has been in place for years now in Canada, it was just the expansion to include those who are mentally ill that was pushed back to 2027

Yes , that's what. Do you have any info why was it pushed? I think society's resistance had to do something with it?

 

[Praying 4 a Miracle]

Yes , that's what. Do you have any info why was it pushed? I think society's resistance had to do something with it?

There definitely is resistance in society, but that resistance is weakening as time goes on. Most people realize now that humane, assistant dying for all those who are chronically suffering is going to happen, it's just a question of when. Once that tipping point is reached (and we're almost there now), the question then will be, why on Earth are we dragging this thing out? All that's doing is causing millions of people around the world to suffer for much longer, and what's the point of that?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

I thought it was already in place for chronically ill people already. Canada , Belgium, Switzerland all have VAD .

Voluntary Assisted Dying

(Finally found out what VAD means.)