I have acquired both N and SN but neither are the holy grail

[Kerrtu]

Thanks @Kerrtu for the detailed response. Ur post was very helpful. However I made an error I meant to say 2 ml instead of 200 ml. Hoping 200 ml puts me to sleep for good lol

But I meant to ask about the minimum dose to see if it's still good or real

Would 3 ml put u sleep ?. Just want to test if it's still good.

Assuming 1 ml contains 63 milligrams of nembutal . 3 milliliters would be 189 mg of n. Did u ever try that small and amount and it put u to sleep? I'm trying to figure out the minimum sleep dose so I can tell it's real. If it's real n u should feel 100 mgs cause I think I remember that was the prescription dosage 1 pill 100 mgs?

the dosage here says 100mgs https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-su...al-route-rectal-route/proper-use/drg-20069290

So u took 30ml . How quickly would it put u to sleep?

In my experience, and I can't emphasize enough the importance of being in bed when/if one is to experiment, I'd take the 30ml and be out in under 10 minutes.

I'll mention the near fire incident again as it shows how fast it works and how strong it is:

I had ingested a full to the brim medicine cup, so a tad over 30ml. I foolishly thought I'd have enough time to have a relaxing smoke before retiring for the evening. I tripped going down the stairs, which was a sign I ignored. I didn't fall down the stairs completely, just tripped.

Once I got down to the basement, I tried to watch a show and have a smoke but couldn't finish the cigarette - I was high, as close to euphoria as I've maybe ever been. I threw the cigarette in a trash bin but I hadn't put it out fully. Had I been alone, I would've died as the house burned down.

So, my estimate is, from point of consumption of 30ml to deep sleep - 10 minutes, max. Likely less, but i'll go with 10 minutes as an average.

In that time, and after getting past the horrid taste, I felt increasingly more and more relaxed, but again, the most euphoric feeling - nothing hurt anymore, especially mentally, which…looking back, that's likely a big part of why I kept dosing recreationally instead of using it to CTB.

I have never felt anything close to that mental freedom since. The cessation of anguish, that beautiful deep sleep…

sighing wistfully

I didn't experiment with microdosing so I don't know how strong of an effect 3ml would have. That said, I'm curious if 3ml would allow for functionality.

Hugs,

Kerrtu ❀

 

[Dayrain]

Would 3 ml put u sleep ?. Just want to test if it's still good.

There was a member here a few months ago who wanted to test as well or something and reported that he maybe accidentally got one or two drops on his fingers in the process of opening the bottle. He reported further that he licked his fingers after that and that he got very, very sleepy from this really very tiny amount alone, but just not fell asleep completely.

 

[rhiino]

I had ingested a full to the brim medicine cup, so a tad over 30ml.

So you took 30 ml × 63 mg, equaling a whopping 1,89 g? That is quite the dose.

 

[paintedbutterfly676]

I hope everything ends up peaceful for you!

 

[mothercoin]

can you boof the chemicals aka enema?

 

[roguetrader]

There was a member here a few months ago who wanted to test as well or something and reported that he maybe accidentally got one or two drops on his fingers in the process of opening the bottle. He reported further that he licked his fingers after that and that he got very, very sleepy from this really very tiny amount alone, but just not fell asleep completely.

I don't think one or two drops will get you sleepy, but definitely 3ml would put you to sleep. I tested N earlier this week

 

[Dayrain]

I don't think one or two drops will get you sleepy, but definitely 3ml would put you to sleep. I tested N earlier this week

I didn't add water. Just poured the contents of the N containers into a glass. Very drowsy now must be the licking fingers from yesterday with a little N residue.

 

[randal_bond]

Hi All,

Firstly, thank you to admin for giving us this space.

Secondly I had an account here years ago which I deleted. I think self-deletion results in an auto ban, because I have been struggling for over a month to make a new account and kept being blocked/rejected. As a result I'm not sure whether I can no only use this forum via my friend's internet - today is the last day I have access. I will be on for a couple of hours from now, but if you don't hear from me again, that's why.
This is also why I've skipped the intro part and want to get straight to the important stuff in case I only have limited access here.

I am in the UK and managed to get N from A, the main supplier when I was on this board a few years ago. Since coming back here I see much has changed, I have no idea what happened to A.

My N came through with no problems, it was delivered by courier within weeks of ordering. I paid around £700 for 2 bottles, 200ml total (100ml per bottle). That is the minimum dose you need (each bottle is 6.5). IMPORTANT: this the veterinary solution for injection, it is not the same product for oral ingestion used in the clinics. I ruined one bottle by accident so now only have 1 left, not enough for self-deliverance BUT, I did a taste test (several times) and I can tell you there is NO WAY I could ever drink 2 bottles, let alone 1 mouthful without vomiting. You then risk choking on your vomit in a drowsy state. Not what I want. I have never in my life tasted anything so foul, I do not have words to describe it. A very strong industrial kind of taste.

When my N arrived, I cried with relief, but that soon passed when I realised I could never drink the stuff. So I want to caution people about thinking N is the holy grail. At the same time, I want to tell you that if you find a good seller like A, the stuff gets through fine. I can't divulge the tactic used, but it is very clever and there is no reason it would be intercepted and tested by the authorities.

SN
Ordered with no problems, it came through fine. I think I paid around £20 for 2 containers. The vendor still operates, so no idea why people are having problems. Again, for me personally, this is not going to work. It is misleading to make blanket statements claiming any damage is reversible. I personally have a large brain tumour that is already encasing my carotid artery by over 50%. It's restricting the flow of oxygenated blood, causing me a world of side effects. If I were to experience a further reduction in oxygen by taking sn (sorry I don't know the right terms to explain all this), I could have a seizure, or end up with brain damage if the attempt failed.

I have suffered enough and am looking for a way out that will not cause me distress in my final moments, I don't want to be terrified and in distress.
Everyone is different with different medical problems, so the effects of any self-deliverance method could affect you in different ways. This is also why I can't practice blocking my carotid arteries with a view to hanging.

Happy to answer questions, obviously cannot send/receive PMs. I apologise in advance if I have transgressed any rules here with my first post, in a hurry to get this info out in case I can't access the site again after today.

When impossible to administer orally, rectal administration may be a viable option. PPeH mentions that and confirms that possibility for N. Also, somebody here quoted a suicide by rectal administration of Thiopental by a nurse. It seems to be counter-intuitive for those who are not used to it, but it's a popular method among drug-addicts who bypass digestive system and get their drug into the system in larger amounts unchanged, rather than some of it being destroyed in case of oral administration.

 

[Ernest1964]

It's a good question - I don't know what happened with A though our interactions (via proton mail at the time) were always very nice - polite, cordial. A was thoughtful and came through. Prior to ordering from A, I had been scammed out of $650 from a different supposed source so by the time I ordered with A, I was just hoping the package would make it to me and be legit. A was a solid, genuinely good supplier. Kind and humble, I agree. I hope he's doing well.

The 2 bottles I consumed over a period of months. I will not forget the taste and looking back, I don't know how I didn't vomit. Not once did I vomit. Well, I did have a lot of other medications I was on at the time due to the injury, and I had strong antiemetics as I had a lot of nausea from the skull injury aspect of the broken neck.

When it comes to injecting, it can get dicey. I wouldn't try the gelatin capsules though in theory, it would be amazing if you were able to get that to work. I was thinking of straight up injecting and if you were to do that, be very careful in making sure you don't inject air into your veins. I'm sure you know that anyway, I just wanted to say it to be sure - I don't want you suffering further.

If you let air into the bottle it doesn't mean the N is trash - definitely still useable. And the expiration dates are very flexible with N - it's so damn strong, I estimate the bottles are good for 3 years at least after the date on the bottles. I would remove the rubber stoppers every time I consumed so air did get in but it had no negative effect on the potency and this was months of opening and resealing with the rubber stoppers.

Thank you for your kind words regarding the near house fire - I'm glad I didn't burn it down, too. I look back in near disbelief at how close it was to being a total disaster.

One more bit about the taste, as it is so metallic and bitter (probably the most bitter thing I've ever consumed) - I wonder if having a wedge of lemon on hand after drinking would help at all. Like taking a shot basically and sucking the lemon immediately after?

If you've got 1 full bottle left - hell, even half a bottle, that would be enough.

My best thoughts to you and again, wishing you relief.

My question is: Do you think that mixing the N with orange juice or maybe pineapple juice maybe even with extra sugar added, plus the anti-emetic would make the N drinkable?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

My question is: Do you think that mixing the N with orange juice or maybe pineapple juice maybe even with extra sugar added, plus the anti-emetic would make the N drinkable?

The PPH says it's best to take N straight followed by some liquor. But coating your mouth with honey first should help.

 

[roguetrader]

My question is: Do you think that mixing the N with orange juice or maybe pineapple juice maybe even with extra sugar added, plus the anti-emetic would make the N drinkable?

The PPH says it's best to take N straight followed by some liquor. But coating your mouth with honey first should help.

Having taste tested some N last week, I don't think mixing extra liquid is a good idea. Would make the total volume to consume too much. Plus the strength of the N taste is extremely strong and sugar or honey won't help it all that much. All that being said, the N taste is nasty, but can be downed if someone is determined.

 

[Ernest1964]

Having taste tested some N last week, I don't think mixing extra liquid is a good idea. Would make the total volume to consume too much. Plus the strength of the N taste is extremely strong and sugar or honey won't help it all that much. All that being said, the N taste is nasty, but can be downed if someone is determined.

Ive read that people have used a swimming type nose plug. What do you think, if you can't smell it would it taste less foul?

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Ive read that people have used a swimming type nose plug. What do you think, if you can't smell it would it taste less foul?

Or just hold your nose. I don't know if that helps or not.

 

[Willy Wonka]

Thank you. What happened to A? That man was a lifesaver and I found him to be humble and kind. Got the idea he was an older man and not very well himself.

How many ml do you have left? I was wondering whether I could syringe the 100ml I have left into gelatin capsules, but I'm not sure that's practical. In any case I only have 1 bottle left so would need to combine it with another method.

I'm glad you didn't burn the house down!
For the life of me I just cannot imagine anyone being able to drink 2 bottles of that stuff.

I tested mine with a home testing kit, it was positive for barbiturates.
As months roll by I always find myself becoming more desperate to leave this hellish realm and ask myself: did it really taste that bad?
Then I do another taste test and am surprised all over again at how utterly FOUL it is.

I stupidly let air into the bottle through the syringe the last time I did a taste test so assume that bottle is useless. The expiry date was roundabout now, but I'm sure the good bottle is still just as potent.

"he was a lifesaver" haha

 

[roguetrader]

Ive read that people have used a swimming type nose plug. What do you think, if you can't smell it would it taste less foul?

Smell is ok. The worst is the aftertaste. The lingering taste in the mouth after drinking it.

 

[DeadHead]

"he was a lifesaver" haha

Hahaha! I didn't even pick up on my own comment:-)

 

[Franco]

Hi All,

Firstly, thank you to admin for giving us this space.

Secondly I had an account here years ago which I deleted. I think self-deletion results in an auto ban, because I have been struggling for over a month to make a new account and kept being blocked/rejected. As a result I'm not sure whether I can no only use this forum via my friend's internet - today is the last day I have access. I will be on for a couple of hours from now, but if you don't hear from me again, that's why.
This is also why I've skipped the intro part and want to get straight to the important stuff in case I only have limited access here.

I am in the UK and managed to get N from A, the main supplier when I was on this board a few years ago. Since coming back here I see much has changed, I have no idea what happened to A.

My N came through with no problems, it was delivered by courier within weeks of ordering. I paid around £700 for 2 bottles, 200ml total (100ml per bottle). That is the minimum dose you need (each bottle is 6.5). IMPORTANT: this the veterinary solution for injection, it is not the same product for oral ingestion used in the clinics. I ruined one bottle by accident so now only have 1 left, not enough for self-deliverance BUT, I did a taste test (several times) and I can tell you there is NO WAY I could ever drink 2 bottles, let alone 1 mouthful without vomiting. You then risk choking on your vomit in a drowsy state. Not what I want. I have never in my life tasted anything so foul, I do not have words to describe it. A very strong industrial kind of taste.

When my N arrived, I cried with relief, but that soon passed when I realised I could never drink the stuff. So I want to caution people about thinking N is the holy grail. At the same time, I want to tell you that if you find a good seller like A, the stuff gets through fine. I can't divulge the tactic used, but it is very clever and there is no reason it would be intercepted and tested by the authorities.

SN
Ordered with no problems, it came through fine. I think I paid around £20 for 2 containers. The vendor still operates, so no idea why people are having problems. Again, for me personally, this is not going to work. It is misleading to make blanket statements claiming any damage is reversible. I personally have a large brain tumour that is already encasing my carotid artery by over 50%. It's restricting the flow of oxygenated blood, causing me a world of side effects. If I were to experience a further reduction in oxygen by taking sn (sorry I don't know the right terms to explain all this), I could have a seizure, or end up with brain damage if the attempt failed.

I have suffered enough and am looking for a way out that will not cause me distress in my final moments, I don't want to be terrified and in distress.
Everyone is different with different medical problems, so the effects of any self-deliverance method could affect you in different ways. This is also why I can't practice blocking my carotid arteries with a view to hanging.

Happy to answer questions, obviously cannot send/receive PMs. I apologise in advance if I have transgressed any rules here with my first post, in a hurry to get this info out in case I can't access the site again after today.

Hello I ordered SN from alibaba she said it was 99% purity, it's in a sealed bag in another sealed bag. Unfortunately my mother became ill so I have to delay my attempt, Will it lose it's purity over time the recommended dose is 15 grams I was thinking of taking a lot more is this a stupid decision am i just likely to vomit. Could anymore recommend a easy accessible drug that I could take to reduce my chances of vomiting up.

Kind regards Franco.