Discussion i don’t like the thought of mental helplines + giving advice to someone suicidal is difficult

[coldkittypaws]

correction; mental helplines just need some work, sorry for my mistake </3

id like to get other people's inputs & opinions on this as well if possible!

i hope this isn't complicated because its kind of all over the place but i've never texted/called one but to me (wether its a real person or not) it just doesnt seem entirely helpful. especially since ive heard instances of people being put on hold (!???!)

while i do understand that giving advice/trying to save someone from suicide can be very difficult i feel like said person would just be better off getting help from a close friend or family member (if thats what they even want because not everyone wants a solution because to them— suicide IS the solution)

& im saying this as someone who has given advice to people in the past & has tried to take my own advice such as "it'll get better over time" (i've now learned that in most cases, this is an ignorant statement to make atleast imo because most people have been waiting & waiting & waiting & waiting & waiiiitinngg for something to change.)

so (again in my opinion & because i have suicidal fantasies of my own and have had them since i was 10 + i have met & associated with suicidal people in the past as well) i believe that most people just want to be heard or seen even if they are not suicidal or are dealing with any mental illness(es).

 

[orcapythia]

Some of the people calling won't have close friends or family members. I do agree that helplines could use a lot of work.

 

[thefarter]

honestlyyyy in the past when i've called suicide hotlines. they will just let you cry it out and listen to you. that's the main thing. and if you say anything that will sound like you're going to hurt yourself, they double check that you are not gonna hurt yourself. i think they also ask if you know who else to contact (local mental health services etc).

ummmm yeh.
but you're right about wanting to be heard/seen.

before i got to the point of buying my SN, i tried a lot to forge some friendships where i might be able to have someone listen or (potentially) understand where i was coming from after being doxxed. unfortunately, everybody i approached was treating me strangely and i assume this is because they knew i was doxxed. so i just became the evil person. that deserved to be ridiculed.

 

[cazza82]

id like to get other people's inputs & opinions on this as well if possible!

i hope this isn't complicated because its kind of all over the place but i've never texted/called one but to me (wether its a real person or not) it just doesnt seem helpful whatsoever. especially since ive heard instances of people being put on hold (!???!)

while i do understand that giving advice/trying to save someone from suicide can be very difficult i feel like said person would just be better off getting help from a close friend or family member (if thats what they even want because not everyone wants a solution because to them— suicide IS the solution)

& im saying this as someone who has given advice to people in the past & has tried to take my own advice such as "it'll get better over time" (i've now learned that in most cases, this is an ignorant statement to make atleast imo because most people have been waiting & waiting & waiting & waiting & waiiiitinngg for something to change.)

so (again in my opinion & because i have suicidal fantasies of my own and have had them since i was 10 + i have met & associated with suicidal people in the past as well) i believe that most people just want to be heard or seen even if they are not suicidal or are dealing with any mental illness(es).

What about people that have absolutely no one no real support system around them. All I have is my mental health counselor

 

[coldkittypaws]

Some of the people calling won't have close friends or family members. I do agree that helplines could use a lot of work.

yes you're right i shouldnt have said that they are of no use. instead they can use some work and not all are bad!

honestlyyyy in the past when i've called suicide hotlines. they will just let you cry it out and listen to you. that's the main thing. and if you say anything that will sound like you're going to hurt yourself, they double check that you are not gonna hurt yourself. i think they also ask if you know who else to contact (local mental health services etc).

ummmm yeh.
but you're right about wanting to be heard/seen.

before i got to the point of buying my SN, i tried a lot to forge some friendships where i might be able to have someone listen or (potentially) understand where i was coming from after being doxxed. unfortunately, everybody i approached was treating me strangely and i assume this is because they knew i was doxxed. so i just became the evil person. that deserved to be ridiculed.

im sorry about that :( i shouldve specified instead that the helplines just need some work instead. & i hope that you maybe have some better people in your life and if you dont just know that i care about what you have to say and its unfair people treated you cruely.

What about people that have absolutely no one no real support system around them. All I have is my mental health counselor

sorry, should've specified that they need some work instead (im not sure if i can edit the thread or not cuz im relatively new to posting lol) but while i am happy you have someone i am still sad that they're the only person you really have. i hope they continue to help you through your journey tho <33