I don't comprehend why some people are not suicidal

[noname223]

Some weeks ago I met a guy who has schizophrenia simplex. One of the worst mental ilnessess that exist. It is a very severe form of schizophrenia. They often do not tell the patient that he has it in order not to take the hope. This guy could barely think. We had a conversation and he often had to ask what I said and he repeated himself a lot. In clinic I cried a lot about my illness and he told me it is not that bad I don't have to be that sad. He thought we had the same illness. (Ironically I have a very severe maybe one of the worst forms of bipolar. So we are kind of in a similar boat. Fucked)
He owns barely nothing. In the place where he lives there are many thiefs who stole his smartphone 2 times.
After the first clinic stay I thought about the patients there and who of them killed themselves. There were many people with psychosis/schizophrenia and the suicide rate is quite high. I met some of them again and some of them even enjoy their life or at least they have arranged with their shitty life.

I could really not comprehend that. Many people value their life so much. My sister after her psychosis told me: Suicide I would never do that life is so precious. It is the most important thing a human has. I was really like how can we be relatives? (However my parents are really stupid and I ask me the same question again.)

On the other hand I think many people don't admit they are suicidal because they feel ashamed. In my bipolar self aid group someone lied about his suicidal thoughts. I asked him why he lied. He told me: I felt kind of embarrassed that I am such a loser because I don't even want to live???
I think I am a loser due to many reasons. However my suicidal thoughts are not really one of them.

 

[Zzzzz]

Although I believe some people genuinely enjoy their life, despite all the negatives, most people are simply chasing their dreams believing they will come true. Everyone is hoping that something good will come out of living and enduring the difficulties. Also, SI is strong so that is a big factor to.

 

[NormaJeane]

Some weeks ago I met a guy who has schizophrenia simplex. One of the worst mental ilnessess that exist. It is a very severe form of schizophrenia. They often do not tell the patient that he has it in order not to take the hope. This guy could barely think. We had a conversation and he often had to ask what I said and he repeated himself a lot. In clinic I cried a lot about my illness and he told me it is not that bad I don't have to be that sad. He thought we had the same illness. (Ironically I have a very severe maybe one of the worst forms of bipolar. So we are kind of in a similar boat. Fucked)
He owns barely nothing. In the place where he lives there are many thiefs who stole his smartphone 2 times.
After the first clinic stay I thought about the patients there and who of them killed themselves. There were many people with psychosis/schizophrenia and the suicide rate is quite high. I met some of them again and some of them even enjoy their life or at least they have arranged with their shitty life.

I could really not comprehend that. Many people value their life so much. My sister after her psychosis told me: Suicide I would never do that life is so precious. It is the most important thing a human has. I was really like how can we be relatives? (However my parents are really stupid and I ask me the same question again.)

On the other hand I think many people don't admit they are suicidal because they feel ashamed. In my bipolar self aid group someone lied about his suicidal thoughts. I asked him why he lied. He told me: I felt kind of embarrassed that I am such a loser because I don't even want to live???
I think I am a loser due to many reasons. However my suicidal thoughts are not really one of them.

We are programmed to live, this is the reason for being alive, otherwise we all should be dead. And this is why it is so difficult to commit suicide.

 

[noname223]

We are programmed to live, this is the reason for being alive, otherwise we all should be dead. And this is why it is so difficult to commit suicide.

I think there is an error in my programm. I am often in self-destruction mode. Most likely they are not the weird ones, I am just not normal. Still it is so hard for me to comprehend.

 

[FuneralCry]

I cannot imagine not being suicidal. I think it's down to luck and random factors that determine our quality of life which is out of our control, such as what kind of environment we were born into. However some people are disadvantaged from the start through no fault of their own. Many people have a lack of physical/mental illnesses. It is probably due to the way our brains are wired, death is seen as such a final option and as humans we naturally try to work through our problems.

 

[Alwaysbadtime]

I don't understand when I see old people working at the grocery store etc. They seem energetic. I know they don't get retirement beneifits. I don't understand how they afford shit. No retirement is a big reason to end things. Someone mentioned social security...as if it could help. No, one has to work many years, pay into it to get anything back.

 

[demuic]

Although I believe some people genuinely enjoy their life, despite all the negatives, most people are simply chasing their dreams believing they will come true. Everyone is hoping that something good will come out of living and enduring the difficulties. Also, SI is strong so that is a big factor to.

This. In order to enjoy or be content with this reality you have to be massively delusional about how it works and what things are possible for you. And it is an accepted delusion.

 

[lonerclown666]

all older persons that you see alive is because they lived good experiences

 

[fruit-loops]

We are programmed to live, this is the reason for being alive, otherwise we all should be dead. And this is why it is so difficult to commit suicide.

The survival instinct... Every animal has it and it is there for the "good" of a specie, not for the individual. We all have our fear of death imprinted in our DNA..

Sometimes I think that the "transcendence" and the "maturity" is all about to understand and overcome this natural instinct. Don't you think?

 

[Hurt]

I think suicidal people have something in their lives that they can't reverse and they can't live with that. Just my opinion.

 

[whitefeather]

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[Alwaysbadtime]

all older persons that you see alive is because they lived good experiences

My grandma hated life and died naturally. Just one example.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

The survival instinct... Every animal has it and it is there for the "good" of a specie, not for the individual. We all have our fear of death imprinted in our DNA..

Sometimes I think that the "transcendence" and the "maturity" is all about to understand and overcome this natural instinct. Don't you think?

Every human will die so to me it's not logical to fear or regret the inevitable. I don't have a fear of Death. I think Death is the most wonderful thing for me. for 13.8 billion years i was dead and i had no problems, no pain , no worries, no diseases then. The horrible problems began when i was born. The only thing stopping me from killing these cells i'm imprisoned in is fear of failing a ctb attempt and remaining alive with brain damage. My death will solve all my problems forever at once. i wish i were never born. i do fear extreme pain, getting old, dementia,homelessness etc and can't believe i have to face all these threats for no purpose (there is no purpose to life).

 

[Amumu]

Most people just follow their biological instinct and don't suffer that much.
So they don't have suicidal thoughts, and if they have some, it's only temporary.

 

[lofticries]

I can even though i've been pretty much suicidal all my life. The only thing I can't understand is romanticizing growing old. I can't imagine a life of my body breaking down and someone having to help me with every basic thing. To the point where I have to be watched 24 hours or I'll die. That sounds like a fucking nightmare.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Some people are not suicidal because they are happy. Dunno why anyone would overcomplicate it so much.