Method Hydrocodone + Ativan effectiveness?

[whatnow356]

I won't bore you too much with the details but I have an intractable pain condition that is expected to last for the rest of my life. It's been 5 years since it began and I cannot take it anymore. I have a disability hearing in a few months and if that is denied I'm going to do it, if not, I won't. But let's be honest here, the chances of approval are low. I just need to know how likely it would be for 95mg hydrocodone and 10mg Ativan to work for suicide. I figure that might cause vomiting so I plan on grinding them up and putting it into enteric coated capsules so that even if I do vomit the meds are already out of my stomach. Will this work, and what should I expect experience wise? I have narcan so I do have an out just in case but I doubt I'll be taking it.

I also plan on drinking grapefruit juice that day and the day before which from what I hear should increase the lethality of the hydrocodone.

 

[Forveleth]

Welcome to SaSu! Sorry life has brought you here.

Unfortunately, medication ODs rarely work and are far more likely to make you sick and leave you alive. You should not attempt them.

 

[whatnow356]

Welcome to SaSu! Sorry life has brought you here.

Unfortunately, medication ODs rarely work and are far more likely to make you sick and leave you alive. You should not attempt them.

Certainly there must be a dose that would work right? I can keep going higher on the Ativan but that's all of the hydro I have. I may have one more surgery that will kick up the opioid dose aswell. Plus there's readily available 7OH that I can get if we're not sure of the above being enough. I also have a Lyrica script that I can add into the mix. Working on getting suvorexant aswell. Just if we're not certain that the original proposal would work I can really pile it on. At that point I do worry about how bad of a final experience this may come out to be. I'm of course trying to avoid increased panic/suffering.

 

[Bishop]

Why ODs Fail Miserably (A Guide)

There's still a lot of questions and inquiries about ODs, and people asking about what things may facilitate a successful attempt. Let's be clear, ODs are rarely fatal. Why? For a couple of reasons: (1) modern medications are designed to be very safe, as manufacturers aim to avoid deaths that...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Certainly there must be a dose that would work right? I can keep going higher on the Ativan but that's all of the hydro I have. I may have one more surgery that will kick up the opioid dose aswell. Plus there's readily available 7OH that I can get if we're not sure of the above being enough. I also have a Lyrica script that I can add into the mix. Working on getting suvorexant aswell. Just if we're not certain that the original proposal would work I can really pile it on. At that point I do worry about how bad of a final experience this may come out to be. I'm of course trying to avoid increased panic/suffering.

@Forveleth is correct

 

[whatnow356]

Why ODs Fail Miserably (A Guide)

There's still a lot of questions and inquiries about ODs, and people asking about what things may facilitate a successful attempt. Let's be clear, ODs are rarely fatal. Why? For a couple of reasons: (1) modern medications are designed to be very safe, as manufacturers aim to avoid deaths that...

sanctioned-suicide.net

@Forveleth is correct

Respectfully, that document borders on misinformation. You can't just take rodent LD50 values and scale them up linearly to human weight. Rodents have a significantly more efficient metabolic rate and up to 5x heart rate compared to a human which filters out substances all the more efficiently through their liver. Beyond that, for opioids in particular humans are significantly more sensitive than rodents which compounds onto the filter rate and metabolic discrepancies. There's also the factor of polysubstance use and liver enzyme disruption as I mentioned in my note. I know you didn't write the document out so no shade on you of course but this does not paint an accurate picture of overdose thresholds. I wouldn't want this alone to push people away from an otherwise more peaceful transition. Whoever wrote that needs to revisit it with human data and a bit more nuance.

 

[gardenhouse]

I won't bore you too much with the details but I have an intractable pain condition that is expected to last for the rest of my life. It's been 5 years since it began and I cannot take it anymore. I have a disability hearing in a few months and if that is denied I'm going to do it, if not, I won't. But let's be honest here, the chances of approval are low. I just need to know how likely it would be for 95mg hydrocodone and 10mg Ativan to work for suicide. I figure that might cause vomiting so I plan on grinding them up and putting it into enteric coated capsules so that even if I do vomit the meds are already out of my stomach. Will this work, and what should I expect experience wise? I have narcan so I do have an out just in case but I doubt I'll be taking it.

I also plan on drinking grapefruit juice that day and the day before which from what I hear should increase the lethality of the hydrocodone.

Hi,

I think you need more combination of opioid, benzo, and sleeping pills.

Have a look purebliss heath ledger method
Post, a lot of people here say prescription drug OD do not work but in my opinion, the right combination will.

And if you do research, there are a lot of famous people who passed away from the combination of opioid, benzo and strong sleeping pills

 

[volo]

I won't bore you…

To find that method that gardenhouse mentioned you'd have to post/Interact more, till you get the search (and pm function) on this site.

Perhaps you can see if there are any medical papers with these substances; you write like you know a bit about pharmacology so reading or finding these papers may be easier for you.

This site and the 'deadly books', as a standard procedure, have antiemetics go first, before the deadly substance- metoclopramide, as a pro kinetic as well, to push things out of your stomach; and Ondasteron which helps more when your body recognizes the poison has entered the system.
You could check in the ppeh book's opioids section if this still apples for these kind of drugs.

 

[Chronic]

Lookup DDMP2 and DDMA...insanely large amounts of medications are required to the point it's almost impossible to have a fatal overdose otherwise. The one exception is possibly fentanyl which kills primates at a dose of 0.03 mg/kg. 95 mg of hydrocodone isn't nearly enough (I used to take 75 mg of morphine a day for pain which is equivalent to hydrocodone).