How much Metoclopramide for Thiopental Sodium suicide?

[Daniel555]

How much Metoclopramide for Thiopental Sodium suicide?

I will be using 25 grams thiopental sodium in water, I think 250 mL. Then also 1-2 grams dilantin. However how much meto should I use? 20 mg? Just once? 50 mg? I'm not well versed on meto.

 

[adamantc]

Lucky you. Barbiturates like sodium thiopental typically work without the need for a chemical antiemetic. You can take some, but it is not required.

 

[taker_of_insulin]

Dang. How did you get ST?

 

[Daniel555]

Lucky you. Barbiturates like sodium thiopental typically work without the need for a chemical antiemetic. You can take some, but it is not required.

Oh ok thanks, that is what I was wondering.

 

[unluckysadness]

Did you find it on darknet ?

 

[adamantc]

Did you find it on darknet ?

It is used for certain surgical procedures as an anesthesia. I'm planning to misappropriate some (I work as a surgeon) for any eventual attempt. Its use is declining but it is still in stock in some hospitals. Not a lot of drug dealers would stock something as easily lethal and hard to administer safely as sodium thiopental. Using it recreationally would either sedate or kill you, with no 'euphoric' effects.

 

[intr0verse]

Did you find it on darknet ?

There had been reports of people getting it from indian sources, but unless it's diverted from a hospital/pharmacy, i would be very cautious with these sources; product could be of low quality or counterfeit.
There is not enough data about its reliability when it's taken orally because of its ultra short duration of action; it might score better with IV administration, but that's not something everyone can do.

 

[bb142342]

It is possible, just as with the other sets of instructions: take one dose in each of the hours leading up to the procedure, and then take 2–3 doses in the final hour immediately beforehand.

Apparently, there is a secondary effect involved—namely, accelerated gastric emptying. This effect should be particularly crucial with this specific agent; otherwise, the substance would linger in the stomach for too long, whereas it is only active for a mere 10 minutes before being sequestered into fat and muscle tissue.

This would be my preferred approach as well; however—as noted in the other post—I am unnerved by the fact that the individual in that test reportedly felt absolutely nothing after taking 0.5g orally.
That constitutes a dosage twice the strength of what is administered via IV infusion for general anesthesia.
Consequently, it really should have produced the exact same effect.
Of course, it is also possible that the individual in the other post simply failed to follow the necessary preparatory steps—that is to say, they may have had a full stomach and neglected to take the metoclopramide.

 

[Daniel555]

Gastric emptying from meto or thiopental sodium? What does that even mean?

Yeah with the .5 gram thiopental person, we don't even know if he is still alive or not. Drinking with dilantin would help cause death too.

It is possible, just as with the other sets of instructions: take one dose in each of the hours leading up to the procedure, and then take 2–3 doses in the final hour immediately beforehand.

Apparently, there is a secondary effect involved—namely, accelerated gastric emptying. This effect should be particularly crucial with this specific agent; otherwise, the substance would linger in the stomach for too long, whereas it is only active for a mere 10 minutes before being sequestered into fat and muscle tissue.

This would be my preferred approach as well; however—as noted in the other post—I am unnerved by the fact that the individual in that test reportedly felt absolutely nothing after taking 0.5g orally.
That constitutes a dosage twice the strength of what is administered via IV infusion for general anesthesia.
Consequently, it really should have produced the exact same effect.
Of course, it is also possible that the individual in the other post simply failed to follow the necessary preparatory steps—that is to say, they may have had a full stomach and neglected to take the metoclopramide.

 

[bb142342]

I've read that metoclopramide serves not only to prevent vomiting but also fulfills the function of accelerating gastric emptying—that is, speeding up digestion.

This offers two advantages. Everything becomes, so to speak, empty—no food remains, only the active substances—and these are then passed on from the stomach much more quickly. In other words, a higher dose is successfully passed through rather than being compromised while still in the stomach.

The original poster, after all, only intended to *test out* the 0.5g dose. He wrote that he plans to consume a significantly larger amount later on.
However, the fact that 0.5g prevented him from sleeping normally is very odd.

Hence the theory that he simply tried it out on the fly, without any preparation—presumably on a full stomach, and so on.

Sorry for the English. I use a translator

 

[Daniel555]

I've read that metoclopramide serves not only to prevent vomiting but also fulfills the function of accelerating gastric emptying—that is, speeding up digestion.

This offers two advantages. Everything becomes, so to speak, empty—no food remains, only the active substances—and these are then passed on from the stomach much more quickly. In other words, a higher dose is successfully passed through rather than being compromised while still in the stomach.

The original poster, after all, only intended to *test out* the 0.5g dose. He wrote that he plans to consume a significantly larger amount later on.
However, the fact that 0.5g prevented him from sleeping normally is very odd.

Hence the theory that he simply tried it out on the fly, without any preparation—presumably on a full stomach, and so on.

Sorry for the English. I use a translator

Oh, ok, thanks for the clarification.

Did you find it on darknet ?

I would rather not say.