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I have the sneaking suspicion that the entertainment industry deliberately depicts completely ineffectual methods of suicide in order to avoid promoting effective self-euthanasia.

So just to de-bunk the ones I see referenced here again and again, by the hopeful/desperate, this is the list I've come up with off the top of my head for possibilities to avoid:

Cutting your wrists --especially across the long axis of your arm, but even lengthwise is highly unlikely of success. It does hurt, though. (Full confession: I tried this when I was 15, so this trope is near and dear to me.)

Shooting yourself in the temple --almost guaranteed to not kill you, but it will likely turn you into a vegetable.

Shooting yourself under the chin --it may well blow off a big piece of your face, but it probably won't kill you.

Dropping an electrical appliance into your bath --either the internal electrics of the device or the household fuse will blow before it even has time to pop out your dental fillings. It'll almost certainly hurt, though.

OD'ing on any one OTC drug --Big Pharma made this an impossibility long ago, but that doesn't mean it won't destroy your internal organs and leave you alive and in agony.

OD'ing on a random combination of OTC drugs --again, Big Pharma has made this unlikely.

Gassing yourself with the car's exhaust --hasn't been an option since catalytic converters became standard 40 years ago, and each new advance in fuel economy translates to more complete fuel combustion that makes it even less likely to succeed.

Suffocating yourself with a bag over your head, while fully conscious --CO2 build up will trigger your hypercapnic alarm and your body's instincts will override your will to die.

Any others?
 
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Most or all of them. Where do we get our ideas about suicide? From TV. We are so screwed.
 
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I attempted at 20 with the plastic bag, a bottle of wine and otc sleeping aids.

Can confirm hypercanic alarm was experienced, and was horrifying and painful.
 
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In the scene of "13 Reasons Why" she makes cutting her wrists look really easy. I hate to see impressionable young people trying to copy this ineffectual way of CTB. They're more likely to end up with horrific injuries to their arms and surviving.
 
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Devils Advocate where Keanu's wife slits her throat with a piece of glass. She slices across cutting through her windpipe and esophagus and then bleeding out immediately. Not the case since the jugulars are located a bit higher near your thyroid glands. Cutting through the windpipe will make your head look like a Pez dispenser and it's painful.
 
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Jumping from a low ledge and they die in movies but irl you can live with bad injuries.
 
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I don't know if the Gas oven one is still relevant, used to be seen in older movies.
Then again I have an electric oven.
 
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I don't know if the Gas oven one is still relevant, used to be seen in older movies.
Then again I have an electric oven.
No,
There is no CO mixed in city gas in Europe any longer. Hasn't for a good while
 
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I don't know if the Gas oven one is still relevant, used to be seen in older movies.
Then again I have an electric oven.


Sylvia Plath died this way.
 
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Movies...TV shows...mostly BS...designed to entertain or brainwash or both. Real life is much more horrific.
 
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Movies...TV shows...mostly BS...designed to entertain or brainwash or both. Real life is much more horrific.
Yes, when I was growing up I thought everyone in the US had a big house with a white picket fence.
 
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Those days are long gone.
Those days never existed... i live in the US and i never had a white picket fence nor did i knew anyone that had one
 
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Those days never existed... i live in the US and i never had a white picket fence nor did i knew anyone that had one

Seriously?
 
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I don't know if the Gas oven one is still relevant, used to be seen in older movies.
Then again I have an electric oven.
Not sure cooking your head is a nice way to go. :P
 
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Those days never existed... i live in the US and i never had a white picket fence nor did i knew anyone that had one
I thought everyone led the "happy days" life!
 
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I grew up in California, I never realized that southern accents were real until I moved out of state. I just thought they were something on TV
 
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Another fantastic piece of writing by tiredhorse...this one needs to go in resources.
 
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Those days never existed... i live in the US and i never had a white picket fence nor did i knew anyone that had one

Come to the Deep South, notably Alabama or Georgia. You'll have a nice white picket fence, giant plantation house, and historic grave markers where slaves were buried.
 
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On topic: Also if you stick a lead pencil in your nose, pointy end first, and then slam your head on the desk. You won't die, but will have a piercing headache.
 
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On topic: Also if you stick a lead pencil in your nose, pointy end first, and then slam your head on the desk. You won't die, but will have a piercing headache.
Ah Jeeze! Was that seriously portrayed as a way to kill yourself? Really!?

A "piercing" headache, indeed.
 
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I have the sneaking suspicion that the entertainment industry deliberately depicts completely ineffectual methods of suicide in order to avoid promoting effective self-euthanasia.

So just to de-bunk the ones I see referenced here again and again, by the hopeful/desperate, this is the list I've come up with off the top of my head for possibilities to avoid:

Cutting your wrists --especially across the long axis of your arm, but even lengthwise is highly unlikely of success. It does hurt, though. (Full confession: I tried this when I was 15, so this trope is near and dear to me.)

Shooting yourself in the temple --almost guaranteed to not kill you, but it will likely turn you into a vegetable.

Shooting yourself under the chin --it may well blow off a big piece of your face, but it probably won't kill you.

Dropping an electrical appliance into your bath --either the internal electrics of the device or the household fuse will blow before it even has time to pop out your dental fillings. It'll almost certainly hurt, though.

OD'ing on any one OTC drug --Big Pharma made this an impossibility long ago, but that doesn't mean it won't destroy your internal organs and leave you alive and in agony.

OD'ing on a random combination of OTC drugs --again, Big Pharma has made this unlikely.

Gassing yourself with the car's exhaust --hasn't been an option since catalytic converters became standard 40 years ago, and each new advance in fuel economy translates to more complete fuel combustion that makes it even less likely to succeed.

Suffocating yourself with a bag over your head, while fully conscious --CO2 build up will trigger your hypercapnic alarm and your body's instincts will override your will to die.

Any others?


To play devils advocate... I've been a medic for a long long time. Shooting yourself in the temple or under the chin can and does succeed often but it isn't 100%. It's mostly a game of ballistics and physics. If you use a .22 there isn't enough projectile mass or velocity to cause the necessary damage. That said I had a guy kill himself with a .22 temple shot, just dumb luck. Why people fail often has to do with the angle of the firearm to the brain and flinching, literally, as they pull the trigger. Had one guy use a shotgun and buckshot and ended up crawling around his garage for three hours without a face. If you choose to use a gun,especially black powder muzzle loader if you live in a gun restricted country, do your research first! It is a reliable method if you know what you are doing.
 
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To play devils advocate... I've been a medic for a long long time. Shooting yourself in the temple or under the chin can and does succeed often but it isn't 100%. It's mostly a game of ballistics and physics. If you use a .22 there isn't enough projectile mass or velocity to cause the necessary damage. That said I had a guy kill himself with a .22 temple shot, just dumb luck. Why people fail often has to do with the angle of the firearm to the brain and flinching, literally, as they pull the trigger. Had one guy use a shotgun and buckshot and ended up crawling around his garage for three hours without a face. If you choose to use a gun,especially black powder muzzle loader if you live in a gun restricted country, do your research first! It is a reliable method if you know what you are doing.
Absolutely correct. As an EMT, I've seen case reports of any number of dumb-luck suicides even when I haven't seen the actual cases, and as a long time shooter, I know even a .22 can get the job done with the right aim and a steady hand.

However, as you are undoubtedly aware, the intention of the post is to debunk the common tropes that might otherwise be seen as infallible methods. Just because there's a slim chance you could succeed at a Hollywood method doesn't mean you should embrace it as a sure-fire technique to end your life.
 
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Absolutely correct. As an EMT, I've seen case reports of any number of dumb-luck suicides even when I haven't seen the actual cases, and as a long time shooter, I know even a .22 can get the job done with the right aim and a steady hand.

However, as you are undoubtedly aware, the intention of the post is to debunk the common tropes that might otherwise be seen as infallible methods. Just because there's a slim chance you could succeed at a Hollywood method doesn't mean you should embrace it as a sure-fire technique to end your life.
True. But let's remember, no method is 100%. I think the people on this site can confirm survival of every method possible. I learned that when it's your time to go, death will find a way. No matter what.
 
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True. But let's remember, no method is 100%. I think the people on this site can confirm survival of every method possible. I learned that when it's your time to go, death will find a way. No matter what.
Agreed: no method is 100% certain. But if you want death to find its way reliably, efficiently, and expediently --ideally even peacefully-- it might be better to stay away from methods that have high cinematic value but low efficacy.

The intention of this thread is both to steer people away from the most egregiously ineffective methods and to reinforce the idea that they should research their chosen method carefully.
 
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Not sure if this was mentioned before, but jumping into a volcano. Hollywood or at least fiction makes it seem like you slowly get consumed by lava/magma, but that's not the case. Getting close to a volcano (if one even lives near an active one) would result in really uncomfortable heat (and you might die of asphyxiation or burning to death before you reach the actual magma or lava. Also when you step into lava, I think (since over half the human body's composition is water) you vaporize and explode when you hit lava/magma.
 
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