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leloyon

leloyon

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what would you classify as a short barrel? 18 inches?
I would say eighteen to maybe twenty-four inches would be short for a shotgun.
Also, if you I had the choice between the TAC-14 and an 18 inch, what would you recommend?
The eighteen-inch. It's cheaper, break-action shotguns are more reliable and if the cops find your shotgun they might think it's an illegal sawed-off shotgun and give you shit over it.
And about fitting in my car, It doesn't need to be glove compartment, but I also don't want something long and huge. Storage in the back would be good as well, just somewhere that it can fit that is not out in the open like between my seats
I took that into consideration, I still think the magnum is the better choice. Taurus and Rossi make some three-fifty-seven magnum revolvers I've found for less than five hundred dollars.
 
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so I've decided to go to a shotgun shooting range where they will allow me to rent a gun for $10. I might also go to a handgun range to get a feel of a magnum if they happen to have them. I really cannot afford to fuck up this method, which is why I'm still leaning against a handgun. I won't be able to shoot with the gun I'd eventually like to buy (TAC-14) but I think I'll still get good knowledge on what to expect when shooting it. Part of me thinks it may be best to not go so that I don't know what to expect, but the other part of me thinks it might give me comfort to see just how powerful they are in person.
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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so I've decided to go to a shotgun shooting range where they will allow me to rent a gun for $10. I might also go to a handgun range to get a feel of a magnum if they happen to have them. I really cannot afford to fuck up this method, which is why I'm still leaning against a handgun. I won't be able to shoot with the gun I'd eventually like to buy (TAC-14) but I think I'll still get good knowledge on what to expect when shooting it. Part of me thinks it may be best to not go so that I don't know what to expect, but the other part of me thinks it might give me comfort to see just how powerful they are in person.
See if the range allows you to rent a revolver. I imagine they'd have some sort of revolver to shoot.
Keep in mind that the TAC-fourteen is a pistol grip only shotgun, I imagine they won't let you rent such a shotgun there, but rather a shotgun with a stock. The stock effects your aiming and recoil.
 
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Sep 9, 2023
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So- is it "normal" to be getting hollow point bullets? I obviously don't want to get any sort of questions or problems.... so is it weird if I just come into a gun store buy a gun and some hollow points and just head on out? Sorry probably a stupid question but that's basically what I would be doing.
I just did so this weekend. I know i'm not planning on carrying my gun, so I just said I wanted whatever was the best hollow-point ammo for self defense. It didn't raise any flags with anyone.
 
leloyon

leloyon

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I just did so this weekend. I know i'm not planning on carrying my gun, so I just said I wanted whatever was the best hollow-point ammo for self defense. It didn't raise any flags with anyone.
A bit weird to be replying to a comment from six years ago, but to any lurkers who might be worried about this kinda thing, pretty much this.
Hollow point ammunition is commonly used for self-defense.
Also to everyone who's too worried here, as long as you don't come across as dangerous or "crazy", they don't care. They're salespeople. They see guns as tools. Unless you, once again, come across as someone who's going to use a gun to hurt other people, they aren't actively looking for a reason not to sell to you or help you out.
 
CosmicStrawberry

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I'm thinking of buying a black powder pistol, is loading it as hard as it looks? The wiki how on how to load a black powder mentions disassembly to clean it, do I have to? I don't know anything about guns I'm just using it for CTB
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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I'm thinking of buying a black powder pistol, is loading it as hard as it looks? The wiki how on how to load a black powder mentions disassembly to clean it, do I have to? I don't know anything about guns I'm just using it for CTB
You only need to clean it if you're planning on shooting it beforehand. You don't have to clean a black powder weapon after every shot, but gunpowder leaves foul residue all over the gun so if you're gonna take it out for some test shots you're going to want to clean it when you get back home.
Also it depends on what type of black powder gun you're using. Is it a muzzleloader or a revolver? Is it a flintlock or a caplock?
I'd recommend finding out the specific type of black powder gun you're using and looking up a youtube tutorial on loading that type of gun instead of wikihow.
 
Eudaimonic

Eudaimonic

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Aug 11, 2023
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Idk if this is the right place to post this but where would be the best place to store a shotgun? Do gun stores commonly offer storage?
What excuse can I give for buying a safe to store it in at home? That will look suspicious, no?
I don't have one yet, but I will eventually.
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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Idk if this is the right place to post this but where would be the best place to store a shotgun? Do gun stores commonly offer storage?
What excuse can I give for buying a safe to store it in at home? That will look suspicious, no?
I don't have one yet, but I will eventually.
Anywhere that it fits. Shove it in your closet or under the bed.
 
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Eudaimonic

Eudaimonic

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Aug 11, 2023
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Anywhere that it fits. Shove it in your closet or under the bed.
I don't live alone and I don't have that many secure places to hide it. I think I will need to buy a safe, but I'm worried that doing so will arouse the suspicion of those I live with.
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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I don't live alone and I don't have that many secure places to hide it. I think I will need to buy a safe, but I'm worried that doing so will arouse the suspicion of those I live with.
If you're old enough to buy a shotgun, you must be a grown adult. Tell the people you live with that you're an adult and to respect your privacy.
Also, if they end up taking it from you, that is your property and they have committed theft.
That being said, just stick a lock on your closet if you can, or get some sort of container with a lock on it. You can take the stock off the shotgun to make it easier to store.
 
CosmicStrawberry

CosmicStrawberry

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Mar 29, 2024
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You only need to clean it if you're planning on shooting it beforehand. You don't have to clean a black powder weapon after every shot, but gunpowder leaves foul residue all over the gun so if you're gonna take it out for some test shots you're going to want to clean it when you get back home.
Also it depends on what type of black powder gun you're using. Is it a muzzleloader or a revolver? Is it a flintlock or a caplock?
I'd recommend finding out the specific type of black powder gun you're using and looking up a youtube tutorial on loading that type of gun instead of wikihow.
the black powder seems too complicated for me, I just gotta make sure all my psych ward vacations were voluntary, if so I'll CTB the easy way
 
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leloyon

leloyon

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Feb 4, 2023
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the black powder seems too complicated for me, I just gotta make sure all my psych ward vacations were voluntary
*sigh*
Alright. Let's take this particular gun mentioned in the OP.
It is a percussion gun, also known as a caplock, due to the fact that it used percussion caps.
You measure the appropriate amount of black powder, you pour that into the barrel. You stick a wad into the barrel and stick a projectile in front of it. You shove this combination into the barrel and then use the ram rod (yellow rod that should be underneath the barrel) to shove it all the way to the end of the barrel. Then, you get a percussion cap and stick it onto the that part sticking out next to the hammer.
Guns really aren't that complicated.

Also, keep in mind that you can buy conversion cylinders for percussion revolvers, or old thirty-two S&W revolvers. Get yourself a Remington eighteen-fifty-eight New Model Army or the Colt eighteen-sixty Army, a fourty-five Colt conversion cylinder and a box of Remington Wheelgun fourty-five Colt two-hundred-and-twenty-five grain semi-wadcutter ammo. Or an old Iver Johnson thirty-two S&W revolver and a box of Magtech thirty-two S&W short lead round nose ammo.
A reminder to all about the video that I keep posting on how to legally get firearms as a "prohibited person" in America. If I could edit the OP I'd add this to it.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/cl4q0gmq.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g6y39w.mp4
(both are the same video, just on different sites)
Skip to 5:19 and watch from there.
And for the glowies, I do not have any reason to believe anyone in this thread is a danger to any life, I am not giving advice for the purposes of harming any living person, I am merely providing legal instructions on firearms to those who live in jurisdictions where they are legally allowed to own said firearms with the intent that they use it for target shooting, etc. etc.
 
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CosmicStrawberry

CosmicStrawberry

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Mar 29, 2024
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*sigh*
Alright. Let's take this particular gun mentioned in the OP.
It is a percussion gun, also known as a caplock, due to the fact that it used percussion caps.
You measure the appropriate amount of black powder, you pour that into the barrel. You stick a wad into the barrel and stick a projectile in front of it. You shove this combination into the barrel and then use the ram rod (yellow rod that should be underneath the barrel) to shove it all the way to the end of the barrel. Then, you get a percussion cap and stick it onto the that part sticking out next to the hammer.
Guns really aren't that complicated.

Also, keep in mind that you can buy conversion cylinders for percussion revolvers, or old thirty-two S&W revolvers. Get yourself a Remington eighteen-fifty-eight New Model Army or the Colt eighteen-sixty Army, a fourty-five Colt conversion cylinder and a box of Remington Wheelgun fourty-five Colt two-hundred-and-twenty-five grain semi-wadcutter ammo. Or an old Iver Johnson thirty-two S&W revolver and a box of Magtech thirty-two S&W short lead round nose ammo.
A reminder to all about the video that I keep posting on how to legally get firearms as a "prohibited person" in America. If I could edit the OP I'd add this to it.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/cl4q0gmq.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/g6y39w.mp4
(both are the same video, just on different sites)
Skip to 5:19 and watch from there.
And for the glowies, I do not have any reason to believe anyone in this thread is a danger to any life, I am not giving advice for the purposes of harming any living person, I am merely providing legal instructions on firearms to those who live in jurisdictions where they are legally allowed to own said firearms with the intent that they use it for target shooting, etc. etc.

Thank you for telling me about the converter cylinder. If the night night method doesn't work for me I'll be doing this in August
 
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suffering_mo_7

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Need help!! I need a surefire way to end my physical torment. If I am able to get to the big box store to get a shotgun, do I need to clean it and "break it in" before I use it to end things? I know buying it new, it will be in a box that I will have to put together. I can NOT fail with any method and that's why I am leaning towards this one. However, I am not familiar with guns and because of my noise sensitivity issues, going to any sort of range would be out of the question.

Also, if I have to get to the store via Uber, do you think if I put the box in something (I have a big chair bag), I will be able to get back home via Uber or would it be too suspicious?
 
leloyon

leloyon

Sick Of It All
Feb 4, 2023
939
Need help!! I need a surefire way to end my physical torment. If I am able to get to the big box store to get a shotgun, do I need to clean it and "break it in" before I use it to end things? I know buying it new, it will be in a box that I will have to put together. I can NOT fail with any method and that's why I am leaning towards this one. However, I am not familiar with guns and because of my noise sensitivity issues, going to any sort of range would be out of the question.
No, you don't.
Also, if I have to get to the store via Uber, do you think if I put the box in something (I have a big chair bag), I will be able to get back home via Uber or would it be too suspicious?
You should probably walk a bit away from the gun shop if you do that.
 

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