Full suspension hanging attempt

[Amarajoy]

With little scientific backing...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24351358/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7550818/

"In total, 227,548 (alcohol-intake, n=48,581; no-alcohol-intake, n=178,967) patients were included. After adjusting for age, time of injury, use of public ambulance, and season, multivariate logistic regression analysis showed that injuries were more likely to be severe in the alcohol-intake group than in the no-alcohol-intake group (odds ratio, 1.60; 95% confidence interval, 1.47–1.75)."


When people drink the likelihood of them engaging in risky behavior without good cause increases drastically. On top of that their judgement and ability to execute tasks accurately is diminished. "Dumb" was a casual way to describe that. No disrespect intended.

This explains it. It's only related to vehicular accidents not other accidents.

Why Drunk Drivers Avoid Injury in an Accident

Data has shown that drunk drivers are more likely to survive major accidents compared to sober drivers. Find out why the phenomenon occurs.

www.randsinjurylaw.com

 

[decisive.housewife]

I dont generally post much anymore, generally so exhausted with life I just think whats the point……..but thought I would mention my latest "attempt ", if you can call it that.

I am going through a nightmare, a story too long and complicated to explain, but suicide is on my mind every second of every single day!

I have planned out my suicide and arranged everything so Im ready to go on many occasions,(mainly drowning attempts). So this weekend just gone, I got drunk and had everything in place for another attempt. I was convinced I could do it.

My preference is drowning, but its not easy to find the correct place or scenario to carry that out. So I wanted to try full suspension hanging instead. I have tried "partial" a few times but SI kicks in massively and its too easy just to stand up or back out.

So I felt I wanted to give myself less chance, and found my spot at home where I could fully suspend myself, it was from the loft hatch which is high enough, with a pull up exercise bar taking my weight.

I stood on my chair ready to kick it away, and put my head in the slipknot noose. I tested a few times before fully committing, so I had confidence the ligature wouldn't snap.

After standing there for about 20/25 minutes and my brain trying desperately to talk myself out of it (SI again), I reached up and eased myself off the chair, and kicked it away.

The strain and sheer pain from the pressure is immense, its like every drop of blood in your body is filling your head……such a horrible feeling. I was reaching out to grab things in panic, as expected, but couldn't.

I was probably swinging around for 30/40 seconds, felt hazy and in pain, but I just couldn't pass out. And the pain was so overwhelming I managed to reach the pull up bar and lift myself high enough for my head to pop out of the noose. I dropped to the floor hurting my ankle and just lay there gasping for air and crying like a failure.

I feel if I had passed out, then I wouldn't be typing this now. So why when I watch hanging videos do they achieve unconsciousness so easily? I felt the noose was positioned correctly, under my jaw and above my adams apple. So why didn't I lose consciousness after 12 seconds like everyone states?

I feel the set up was correct, the 10mm rope was the recommended one, the height was right……..so why did I fail? Why is it just so damn hard to just end it? I feel distraught today because its yet another attempt that failed.

I will try again, but I don't live alone and the timing has to be perfect.

Has anyone else tried full suspension? Any tips at where I may of gone wrong?

I understand its all about the pressure on the carotid artery but it certainly felt my whole weight was applied to it.

My throat hurts today, when I swallow. Not been able to eat much. Neck feels strained as well which is to be expected.

Im baffled

Cudos for having a courage for full suspension. I accumulated pills and even thinking of combining partial and OD somehow. I blacked out only twice, out on 50 and more attempts. As soon as my neck stops hurting, I will try again. I go crazy seeing people in movies hanging themselves with whatever they got, partials made even from bed/radiators. Whn I read statistics and see how many people committed suicide with hanging, I feel like an utter moron. Does anyone have some useful links, I have read almost everything here? I have seen also some trick with metal ring which potentiate knot or something, but I didn't understand it quite well.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Cudos for having a courage for full suspension. I accumulated pills and even thinking of combining partial and OD somehow. I blacked out only twice, out on 50 and more attempts. As soon as my neck stops hurting, I will try again. I go crazy seeing people in movies hanging themselves with whatever they got, partials made even from bed/radiators. Whn I read statistics and see how many people committed suicide with hanging, I feel like an utter moron. Does anyone have some useful links, I have read almost everything here? I have seen also some trick with metal ring which potentiate knot or something, but I didn't understand it quite well.

Could it be that the rope that you use is to thin in realtion to your weight? This would cause unneccesary pain.

 

[theater]

Cudos for having a courage for full suspension. I accumulated pills and even thinking of combining partial and OD somehow. I blacked out only twice, out on 50 and more attempts. As soon as my neck stops hurting, I will try again. I go crazy seeing people in movies hanging themselves with whatever they got, partials made even from bed/radiators. Whn I read statistics and see how many people committed suicide with hanging, I feel like an utter moron. Does anyone have some useful links, I have read almost everything here? I have seen also some trick with metal ring which potentiate knot or something, but I didn't understand it quite well.

Regarding links - have you watched the successful hanging and partial hanging videos yet?

 

[TimetoGo!]

Cudos for having a courage for full suspension. I accumulated pills and even thinking of combining partial and OD somehow. I blacked out only twice, out on 50 and more attempts. As soon as my neck stops hurting, I will try again. I go crazy seeing people in movies hanging themselves with whatever they got, partials made even from bed/radiators. Whn I read statistics and see how many people committed suicide with hanging, I feel like an utter moron. Does anyone have some useful links, I have read almost everything here? I have seen also some trick with metal ring which potentiate knot or something, but I didn't understand it quite well.

Yeh man its certainly very confusing.

LiveGore has some pretty graphic content of full suspension, but for every 1 video thats out there, there's probably 1000 fails or more.

Regarding links - have you watched the successful hanging and partial hanging videos yet?

Loads on LiveGore and WatchPeopleDie

 

[theater]

For myself, I've been thinking partial could work if I tie my hands behind my back, tie my legs, and then do the "lean forward" method. I imagine it would be hard to get out of this position.

 

[last_wink]

i'm the one who did post about the importance of rope few weeks back. I can't be sure but i think the problem was there. Here, thick (10mm) propylene static rope are advised mostly. I tried partial with different kind of rope and cable and this was clearly the less effective to pass out. The most effective was on my first attempt with an audio cable, go figure. I passed out within 4 seconds without realising it, no pressure, no pain. I guess the way this kind of cable is flexible, was the magic sauce. Also the "sweet spot" is not the same for everyone. Mine seems to be below adam's apple, so i placed it here and i just did put my head down without much pressure and the black out came so fast, i even didn't realise; like falling asleep.

It was just a try at that time i was considering another method, i was just curious. Finally i came back interested on that method. So i did buy a beautiful thick propylene rope like everyone seems to advise here, and the partial try was more complicated etc.

The rope MUST be very flexible; that's it. The audio cable is rubber,so not sliding well but that wasnt important, the more flexible, the more it will constrict the carotid in a better way.
Also the position. I did it head down with the rope below adam's apple. with my sweet spot it's probably a good position to pass out without putting much pressure, without feeling anything.
But i plan a full suspension to be effective and a no way back ticket and i'm aware that the position will be different etc and so it will probably differ. First i did buy another rope, one used on boats apparently, much more flexible, but for a full suspension i will have to tie it above the adam's apple etc. Maybe i will have to suffer, maybe it will be difficult or longto pass out; maybe not.

I did try different strangulation with ratchet (night night) and cable, and wasn't effective too. Just very uncomfrtable with lots of pressure and no passing out; i even experienced wuickly that jugular thing with the exploding head, big heartbeat and head pressure etc.

What you describe is actually weird, seems like the rope is not flexible enough and probably too thick; just your whole weight pressuring your windpipe and trachea, that's it. Normally if well executed, a full suspension quickly provokes tense and muscles cramps in the body and normally you're not able to move and free yourself that easily.
the pressure you felt in your head was because the jugular was constricted or at least half constricted, implying that your blood had difficulties to leave your brain, this excess of blood in your brain provoked the pressure you felt, like the head exploding.

There are no easy way to end up our life. Any method can be difficult for some reasons. Thing is those kind of experience are traumatic; it could be more difficult for you to try hanging now because you will be afraid to suffer again. But if you want to try again, change the rope. And maybe you could try some partial to see if with another rope and another position you succeed to black out or coming close to it, without any pain.it could "show" you the way it should be, ideally.

btw drowning doesnt sems an easy peaceful way too...

 

[danny10]

I dont generally post much anymore, generally so exhausted with life I just think whats the point……..but thought I would mention my latest "attempt ", if you can call it that.

I am going through a nightmare, a story too long and complicated to explain, but suicide is on my mind every second of every single day!

I have planned out my suicide and arranged everything so Im ready to go on many occasions,(mainly drowning attempts). So this weekend just gone, I got drunk and had everything in place for another attempt. I was convinced I could do it.

My preference is drowning, but its not easy to find the correct place or scenario to carry that out. So I wanted to try full suspension hanging instead. I have tried "partial" a few times but SI kicks in massively and its too easy just to stand up or back out.

So I felt I wanted to give myself less chance, and found my spot at home where I could fully suspend myself, it was from the loft hatch which is high enough, with a pull up exercise bar taking my weight.

I stood on my chair ready to kick it away, and put my head in the slipknot noose. I tested a few times before fully committing, so I had confidence the ligature wouldn't snap.

After standing there for about 20/25 minutes and my brain trying desperately to talk myself out of it (SI again), I reached up and eased myself off the chair, and kicked it away.

The strain and sheer pain from the pressure is immense, its like every drop of blood in your body is filling your head……such a horrible feeling. I was reaching out to grab things in panic, as expected, but couldn't.

I was probably swinging around for 30/40 seconds, felt hazy and in pain, but I just couldn't pass out. And the pain was so overwhelming I managed to reach the pull up bar and lift myself high enough for my head to pop out of the noose. I dropped to the floor hurting my ankle and just lay there gasping for air and crying like a failure.

I feel if I had passed out, then I wouldn't be typing this now. So why when I watch hanging videos do they achieve unconsciousness so easily? I felt the noose was positioned correctly, under my jaw and above my adams apple. So why didn't I lose consciousness after 12 seconds like everyone states?

I feel the set up was correct, the 10mm rope was the recommended one, the height was right……..so why did I fail? Why is it just so damn hard to just end it? I feel distraught today because its yet another attempt that failed.

I will try again, but I don't live alone and the timing has to be perfect.

Has anyone else tried full suspension? Any tips at where I may of gone wrong?

I understand its all about the pressure on the carotid artery but it certainly felt my whole weight was applied to it.

My throat hurts today, when I swallow. Not been able to eat much. Neck feels strained as well which is to be expected.

Im baffled

I also tried full suspension once and I failed it. I have a very similar experience to yours. I waited for the house to be empty. I was in sort of a psychosis so I don't remember much, for example I have no idea how I tied the knot as I am very bad with my hands. Anyway, I pulled the rope over a door and fixed the other end of the rope to the door knob. I also have no idea where that idea came from but it worked. I pulled a chair under the knot and I stepped up on it. I slowly let myself off the chair. I must have hanged for about 30 seconds, and it was the most painful 30 seconds of my life. I thought I can carry on but my SI kicked in so I stepped back on the chair (yes, I didn't kick the chair). After that, my throat hurt a lot and I had a nice mark as well. I was always planning to do full suspention hanging but right now it's only my plan B. SN is my plan A...

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I also tried full suspension once and I failed it. I have a very similar experience to yours. I waited for the house to be empty. I was in sort of a psychosis so I don't remember much, for example I have no idea how I tied the knot as I am very bad with my hands. Anyway, I pulled the rope over a door and fixed the other end of the rope to the door knob. I also have no idea where that idea came from but it worked. I pulled a chair under the knot and I stepped up on it. I slowly let myself off the chair. I must have hanged for about 30 seconds, and it was the most painful 30 seconds of my life. I thought I can carry on but my SI kicked in so I stepped back on the chair (yes, I didn't kick the chair). After that, my throat hurt a lot and I had a nice mark as well. I was always planning to do full suspention hanging but right now it's only my plan B. SN is my plan A...

How do you know that you have hanged 30 seconds?

 

[danny10]

How do you know that you have hanged 30 seconds?

I was fully awake. Not sure exactly, but it must have been close to 30 seconds or so.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

I was fully awake. Not sure exactly, but it must have been close to 30 seconds or so.

I asked because it is said, that one passes out within 20 seconds and in this context your experience is really alarming.
Maybe you have a special feeling of time in such a situation.
On the other hand it is encouraging. When you know, that you can step back on the chair it is easier to step off the chair.

 

[TimetoGo!]

i'm the one who did post about the importance of rope few weeks back. I can't be sure but i think the problem was there. Here, thick (10mm) propylene static rope are advised mostly. I tried partial with different kind of rope and cable and this was clearly the less effective to pass out. The most effective was on my first attempt with an audio cable, go figure. I passed out within 4 seconds without realising it, no pressure, no pain. I guess the way this kind of cable is flexible, was the magic sauce. Also the "sweet spot" is not the same for everyone. Mine seems to be below adam's apple, so i placed it here and i just did put my head down without much pressure and the black out came so fast, i even didn't realise; like falling asleep.

It was just a try at that time i was considering another method, i was just curious. Finally i came back interested on that method. So i did buy a beautiful thick propylene rope like everyone seems to advise here, and the partial try was more complicated etc.

The rope MUST be very flexible; that's it. The audio cable is rubber,so not sliding well but that wasnt important, the more flexible, the more it will constrict the carotid in a better way.
Also the position. I did it head down with the rope below adam's apple. with my sweet spot it's probably a good position to pass out without putting much pressure, without feeling anything.
But i plan a full suspension to be effective and a no way back ticket and i'm aware that the position will be different etc and so it will probably differ. First i did buy another rope, one used on boats apparently, much more flexible, but for a full suspension i will have to tie it above the adam's apple etc. Maybe i will have to suffer, maybe it will be difficult or longto pass out; maybe not.

I did try different strangulation with ratchet (night night) and cable, and wasn't effective too. Just very uncomfrtable with lots of pressure and no passing out; i even experienced wuickly that jugular thing with the exploding head, big heartbeat and head pressure etc.

What you describe is actually weird, seems like the rope is not flexible enough and probably too thick; just your whole weight pressuring your windpipe and trachea, that's it. Normally if well executed, a full suspension quickly provokes tense and muscles cramps in the body and normally you're not able to move and free yourself that easily.
the pressure you felt in your head was because the jugular was constricted or at least half constricted, implying that your blood had difficulties to leave your brain, this excess of blood in your brain provoked the pressure you felt, like the head exploding.

There are no easy way to end up our life. Any method can be difficult for some reasons. Thing is those kind of experience are traumatic; it could be more difficult for you to try hanging now because you will be afraid to suffer again. But if you want to try again, change the rope. And maybe you could try some partial to see if with another rope and another position you succeed to black out or coming close to it, without any pain.it could "show" you the way it should be, ideally.

btw drowning doesnt sems an easy peaceful way too...

Some good points made

I asked because it is said, that one passes out within 20 seconds and in this context your experience is really alarming.
Maybe you have a special feeling of time in such a situation.
On the other hand it is encouraging. When you know, that you can step back on the chair it is easier to step off the chair.

Agreed

 

[last_wink]

Some good points made

Just made some partial hanging tests, to compare my new rope with the audio cable. It seems the new rope has been chosen very well (with the flexibility in mind) and seems even more efficient than the audio cable. It was tightening the noose knot very efficiently, comfortale enough etc. So effective that i was already fading and when i realised that i had almost no chance to come back. Few seconds later i'm on the floor with the wardrobe bar which was making noise on the floor, i needed few seconds to realise what that noise was...

1- it should be done with a noose knot, not a slipknot as i often read here which is almost the same but the slipknot is the invert; the tightenning should come from the attached part and the loose end should be used for the knot itself; check knots tutorial on youtube to understand that point.

2-full suspension cannot be improvised and made impulsively (for the best result). There is a setup and the setup must be tested on different aspects. Anchor point mus handle the wieght, knots must be done correctly, rope must be proper to be comfortable enough, efficient enough for you pass out quick and fast without suffering an awful agony.

This is probably why hanging (full suspension) has this reputation to not be the most easiest method but being more a mature/prepared method. A proper setup is needed, and different aspects and details should be considered properly; first to e successful of course but also to be painless and fast as possible. It is not really compliated but it must be prepared, tested etc.

The anchor point is the first point of course, but it's all or nothing; and if it can handle the weight, it's fine, simple as that.
Then the most important is the rope. This is the main tool in this method and choosed consequently. Partial hanging is very good to try things, test, find an eventual sweetspot, and mostly to b sure that the rope will provide the best result.