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Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
488
I'm probably too young to be thinking this way( late 30s ) but I'm sick to the back teeth of working. I worked over 20 years and I've got another 30 years of this until I retire unless I've resorted to ctb.

I daydream about winning the lottery and having enough to not have to go to work.
My jobs not the worst but I dont want to be a wage slave.
I dont want to be rudely woken up by my alarm every morning, being winter I really struggle to get out of bed.
I dont want to contribute to society by paying tax and national insurance. ( yes I know we dont have a choice )
I spend the last few hours of my shift just wanting to not be there and looking forward to going home.

I know I sound like a spoilt brat but i just dont want to do it anymore! I thought about just quitting and just not working for a couple of years as I've got savings but I wont ever find a job as suitable as the one ive got so I guess I'm just gonna have to suck it up.

Please tell me I'm not the only one feeling this way
 
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Hollowman

Empty
Dec 14, 2021
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You're not the only one.
 
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rs929

Warlock
Dec 18, 2020
712
Youre not the only one, the fact that I need to work for 25-30 more years makes want to CTB
 
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Arvayn

Arvayn

Face the end.
Nov 11, 2025
57
I could never work a meaningless job. If I had to work only because it pays my bills, and not for any reason I actually care about, I'd get completely sick of it.
The only reason I want to work is because I like what my job stands for. Otherwise? I'd be in the exact same shoes as you. You're not crazy or spoiled, you just see through the capitalist dogma.
 
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AuraByte

AuraByte

If I'm lost, please don't find me.
Jun 24, 2025
103
Hard same.

I wish I could quit but I need the money lol.
 
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itsgone2

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Sep 21, 2025
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I could never work a meaningless job. If I had to work only because it pays my bills, and not for any reason I actually care about, I'd get completely sick of it.
The only reason I want to work is because I like what my job stands for. Otherwise? I'd be in the exact same shoes as you. You're not crazy or spoiled, you just see through the capitalist dogma.
Can I ask what you do? You don't have to say if that's private.
I'm having difficulty seeing anything as meaningful
 
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sadman1897

Lost And Gone Forever
Aug 16, 2025
57
I love to work and I desperately want my old job back , but that won't happen
 
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sweetcreep

sweetcreep

reincarnating as a worm
Jul 21, 2024
224
some people are really lucky and have jobs that they like. i hate my job and i hate working 40 hours a week. it would be lovely to have some more free time to do the few things that i can still enjoy. i am very much just a cog in the machine.
 
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Pluto

Cat Extremist
Dec 27, 2020
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Jorvak

Jorvak

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Feb 7, 2025
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I completely get it, and i would add what you and others may be feeling is not just disliking work on itself, it's also the extremely regressive and toxic culture surrounding work that capitalism indoctrinates people into. Specifically that people are "expected" to contribute, regardless of their specific circumstances, marginalization and so on, and that you only deserve dignity if you "contribute".

This is a fundamentally disgusting mentality. The point of a society should be to uplift people, and enable them to find meaning in their own lives, including if that happens to mean wanting to do a regular job in society. If someone doesn't want to work for whatever reason, be it feeling marginalized, social stigmas due to disability, neurodivergence or other mental issues, feeling ostracized, or simply being unable to work due to disabilities, or from any number of other reasons why someone cant or wont work, these are not failures of an individual, they are failures of a society to uplift that person to give them a meaningful and dignified existence in the first place wit h plenty of opportunities. Of course so many people, especially from marginalized communities are not going to feel motivated to work, because they don't feel accepted or valued as people at a basic level.

For example, autistic people have an extremely high unemployment rate of about 85%. this doesn't mean autistic people can't work, the vast majority of autistic people, just as the vast majority of neurotypical people, have the mental and physical capacity to work. The issue is socioeconomic, its that we have a society which greatly marginalizing autistic and other neurodivergent people. the interview process itself highly marginalizes autistic, adhd and other neurodivergent and disabled people, because its more of a 'social game' of whether you conform to a specific "social mindset" or "Corporate culture", rather than simply a gauge of competency for the task.

The whole expectation of expecting "Contribution" just for existing is itself wrong. People don't choose to exist, but yet our current society imposes a tremendous amount of expectations on young people that demands that they must become part of a workforce to make the owners of property (and the political system) increasingly wealthy off of their labor, and forcing conformity to corporate culture to serve the interest of the class that owns society. This expectation is imposed across the board regardless of whether an individual had the means and opportunities to have a healthy existence growing up with plenty of opportunities for self-improvement and positive affirmations.

And if members of a group have worse statistics as a result of not having their needs met? they become villified. Actually its amusing, if for example autistic people or ethnic minorities or women have a lot of jobs, they get accused of being "DEI hires", but if they don't have a lot of jobs due to socioeconomic causes, they get accused of "Being lazy and mooching off the system". You can't win with reaction and bigotry, the capitalist will always find a way to villify the most vulnerable to make a privileged majority feel better about themselves and to turn attention away from how the capitalist system itself works.

My approach is simple: People should be provided human dignity as a baseline, and any humane society that actually serves human needs should never expect anything in return from people who happen to exist. By providing plenty of opportunities to everyone, you enable them to find meaning in their lives and that would motivate them to take on task that they are genuinely passionate about. this of course would require an economic system that is democratically controlled by the public to serve human needs, rather than one privately controlled by a small class of people against humanity.
 
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I'm probably too young to be thinking this way( late 30s ) but I'm sick to the back teeth of working. I worked over 20 years and I've got another 30 years of this until I retire unless I've resorted to ctb.
Yeah once you see the scam it's tough to not see.
Especially now when companies are laying people off even while turning profits.
I was at peace with my job and was told it would not sell, and we could retire there. Well some greedy pricks changed their mind and I'll be out soon.
Many in my shoes. I did everything right. Worked hard in hs and college, always on time and worked hard at work. Doesn't matter. Twice this has happened. And in this economy and being in my 50s I'm f'd. So you wage slave and play by the rules and get screwed anyway.
The concept of capitalism isn't so bad imo, but it's being overly twisted by private equity. They're ruining society.
 
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Jorvak

Jorvak

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Feb 7, 2025
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Yeah once you see the scam it's tough to not see.
Especially now when companies are laying people off even while turning profits.
I was at peace with my job and was told it would not sell, and we could retire there. Well some greedy pricks changed their mind and I'll be out soon.
Many in my shoes. I did everything right. Worked hard in hs and college, always on time and worked hard at work. Doesn't matter. Twice this has happened. And in this economy and being in my 50s I'm f'd. So you wage slave and play by the rules and get screwed anyway.
The concept of capitalism isn't so bad imo, but it's being overly twisted by private equity. They're ruining society.
you have great points, but where I would differ sharply is that i would argue that the concept of capitalism is fundamentally bad to organize a society around, and inherently leads to the consequences you have personally felt the brunt of.

If we can agree that an aim of any humane society should be that as many people exist with dignity and equal rights as possible, i would point out that capitalism by default is antithetical to this aim. It requires creating an economic and political system dominated by private interest. The only things people 'like' about capitalism are ironically the major reforms that predominately socialist had organized the working class around in unions and otherwise to fight for basic dignities in a system that by default does not serve human needs. Capitalist politicians have only strategically maintained these reforms up until they manufacture reasons to reverse them, which they have been doing and are actively doing now.

If we want to have a system that serves human needs by default, we have to structure it on that premise to begin with, meaning that the economy is controlled by the public and democratically managed for public needs, not private interest. Every aspect of society should be developed around the premise of enshrining human dignity and equal rights of all, rather than allowing an class of people who owns property control society at the expense of humanity; IE we need Socialism.
What socialism advocates for is pretty straight-forward, and this is my interpretation of it:

  • Economic democracy (and the abolition of class), where property is owned by the people to serve human needs

  • Equal Human rights for all, in opposition to all forms of bigotry, division, or supremacy

  • The securing of all essential needs for every person, in accordance to Maslow's Hierarchy of needs.

  • The abolition of any forms of exploitation, imperialism or oppression
 
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Arvayn

Arvayn

Face the end.
Nov 11, 2025
57
Can I ask what you do? You don't have to say if that's private.
I'm having difficulty seeing anything as meaningful
I'm an apprentice mortician. It's a vocation. There's a twisted irony and satisfaction for me in what the profession stands for. Idealized death.
It's hard work, and the pay is not anything to write home about in comparison to what they make me go through, but I do it with a smile on my face.
Besides, I believe the one thing that society will never be able to master or gain control over is death. We might crack biological immortality, sure... but even then, there's no avoiding the end forever. You're just delaying the inevitable.
 
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jsker

jsker

Member
Nov 24, 2025
13
right now, plan A is to CTB and plan B is to quit my job and start a business in the meantime. Its really not that difficult to make a good living working for yourself, but it might be cope to think that things would feel any better doing so. Ikwym.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
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I completely get it, and i would add what you and others may be feeling is not just disliking work on itself, it's also the extremely regressive and toxic culture surrounding work that capitalism indoctrinates people into. Specifically that people are "expected" to contribute, regardless of their specific circumstances, marginalization and so on, and that you only deserve dignity if you "contribute".

This is a fundamentally disgusting mentality. The point of a society should be to uplift people, and enable them to find meaning in their own lives, including if that happens to mean wanting to do a regular job in society. If someone doesn't want to work for whatever reason, be it feeling marginalized, social stigmas due to disability, neurodivergence or other mental issues, feeling ostracized, or simply being unable to work due to disabilities, or from any number of other reasons why someone cant or wont work, these are not failures of an individual, they are failures of a society to uplift that person to give them a meaningful and dignified existence in the first place wit h plenty of opportunities. Of course so many people, especially from marginalized communities are not going to feel motivated to work, because they don't feel accepted or valued as people at a basic level.

For example, autistic people have an extremely high unemployment rate of about 85%. this doesn't mean autistic people can't work, the vast majority of autistic people, just as the vast majority of neurotypical people, have the mental and physical capacity to work. The issue is socioeconomic, its that we have a society which greatly marginalizing autistic and other neurodivergent people. the interview process itself highly marginalizes autistic, adhd and other neurodivergent and disabled people, because its more of a 'social game' of whether you conform to a specific "social mindset" or "Corporate culture", rather than simply a gauge of competency for the task.

The whole expectation of expecting "Contribution" just for existing is itself wrong. People don't choose to exist, but yet our current society imposes a tremendous amount of expectations on young people that demands that they must become part of a workforce to make the owners of property (and the political system) increasingly wealthy off of their labor, and forcing conformity to corporate culture to serve the interest of the class that owns society. This expectation is imposed across the board regardless of whether an individual had the means and opportunities to have a healthy existence growing up with plenty of opportunities for self-improvement and positive affirmations.

And if members of a group have worse statistics as a result of not having their needs met? they become villified. Actually its amusing, if for example autistic people or ethnic minorities or women have a lot of jobs, they get accused of being "DEI hires", but if they don't have a lot of jobs due to socioeconomic causes, they get accused of "Being lazy and mooching off the system". You can't win with reaction and bigotry, the capitalist will always find a way to villify the most vulnerable to make a privileged majority feel better about themselves and to turn attention away from how the capitalist system itself works.

My approach is simple: People should be provided human dignity as a baseline, and any humane society that actually serves human needs should never expect anything in return from people who happen to exist. By providing plenty of opportunities to everyone, you enable them to find meaning in their lives and that would motivate them to take on task that they are genuinely passionate about. this of course would require an economic system that is democratically controlled by the public to serve human needs, rather than one privately controlled by a small class of people against humanity.
Agree with everything you've said as an autistic person. Nowadays especially, the employment market is a competitive game of social skills, networking, and performing that puts disabled and marginalised people at a significant disadvantage. On paper, the system seems meritocratic, but not having jobs being assigned on the basis of need means that the most vulnerable in society are screwed over, because we have to try and "sell ourselves" and compete against people who don't have these weaknesses.

Somehow, people think this is okay, but I can't see why. It infuriates me to constantly hear things like, "Autism isn't an impediment, it's a gift you need to learn to harness," as if you are only allowed to have a chance to earn a living if you have some sort of special talent. Why aren't disabled people who are average or even mediocre at something not allowed a chance to do meaningful work and survive?

Then if you aren't able to find or keep a job, people just constantly postulate that you are lazy, not trying, a moocher, and lack ambition, even if every single employer has a blatantly obvious preference for neurotypicals. The deck is stacked against autistic people at every turn, but people will act like it's our own fault for being unable to play by the rules of a game that we are inherently handicapped in. It just makes me so upset and angry.

But yeah, OP, I also have a soul sucking, drudgery tier job. I genuinely did not think my life could get much worse until I got this job. I worked so many low-wage, stressful jobs before I went to university, and I thought finally getting a STEM degree would change my fate, but it can't make up for the fact that I'm autistic, physically disabled, and slow, which are all things that potential employers hate.

I don't make enough money to live alone, I get taken advantage of and forced to work long hours, not take breaks, and be treated like rubbish because I can't get a better job. They're just off limits to me for whatever reason. I have to tolerate such misery simply because I'm disabled and not attractive or charming. The system is rotten.
 
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Ww42

Ww42

Experienced
Feb 24, 2024
287
Been working since 15, I'm now 25. That's already 40% of my life working in some aspect. Been wanting to die since I turned 12 and saw that this was all life had for me was being grinded away by the machine
 
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Raven2

Raven2

Arcanist
Dec 1, 2022
488
But yeah, OP, I also have a soul sucking, drudgery tier job. I genuinely did not think my life could get much worse until I got this job. I worked so many low-wage, stressful jobs before I went to university, and I thought finally getting a STEM degree would change my fate, but it can't make up for the fact that I'm autistic, physically disabled, and slow, which are all things that potential employers hate.

I don't make enough money to live alone, I get taken advantage of and forced to work long hours, not take breaks, and be treated like rubbish because I can't get a better job. They're just off limits to me for whatever reason. I have to tolerate such misery simply because I'm disabled and not attractive or charming. The system is rotten.
I'm sorry your treated so poorly. We have an autistic guy that works in one of our quieter branches as far as I'm aware he gets on just fine. I hope one day you can find a more understanding employer
 
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dearlydeparted44

Experienced
May 21, 2025
275
I wouldn't mind rewarding work that will both help humanity in a positive way and allow me to live a happy and healthy life. However, I'm done with being a wage slave. I'm done with paying to exist in a shithole world. I'm done competing for work. That's what I'm against. Working my ass off just be somewhat survive in a dying society that's going to collapse very soon. That's one of the many reasons I'm catching the bus. I'm in my mid-40's. This is a future that I don't even want to imagine trying to grow into my 'golden years' in. And the more I look at the movement of the world, the more George Orwell is being proven right. The world isn't headed toward anarchy, but the return to slavery in some form. I'm done trying to exist in that.
 
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OnMyLast Legs

Too many regrets
Oct 29, 2024
445
Yes. I totally screwed up when I had an opportunity to build the life I wanted (college). Now even if I somehow got over this heavy depression...I'm 36 with nothing and condemned to decades of degrading drudgery. There's no way.
 
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Seneca65AD

Member
Oct 28, 2025
52
As a 60 year old who spent his 20's getting an education, his 30's paying his dues, and his 40's and 50's building up what was, until recently, a very successful practice, I did not experience the dreaded "I hate my job" until the economic down-turn happened. Now, I do not have the drive or energy to build it back up again, and I am scared that if I try, the assets and investments I've accumulated for my family could be pissed down the drain trying to keep a sinking ship afloat. CTB is a financial decision that would benefit my family. Let me be in my 30's or 40's again and god, I would gladly take the challenge of making the practice more successful than ever, but in reality, those days have passed me by.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I've really detested jobs in the past. Especially when there was an early start and travel time on top. I've done lots of different jobs and finally managed to just about get by on a work from home job.

I tend to work every day but, I'm able to plan my time. So- less early starts. Distractions on in the background. It's all I thought I'd need at one point to feel content. (It's a creative job.) Really though, I think just the pressure to have to work to earn money to live is horrible. (Especially when you don't want to be alive in the first place!) That alone creates so much stress.

I find I'm either usually stressed about some aspect of work- an unreasonable deadline, an inaccurate brief, an unreasonable budget, just my own failings in making a mistake. Or, I'm even more worried when I don't have work and there's little on the horizon. So- it's still better (for me) than other jobs I've done but- it still has it's own issues.

Really though- like you, I'm just exhausted. It isn't giving me the same fulfilment it used to. So- it's a lot of hard work and worry for nothing but the feeling of obligation to stay alive and be independent.

I also fantasize about winning the lottery. Time I do have off, I can happily waste playing video games. I tend to wonder if I could be content being NEET but then- maybe not- if it was all the time.

The other issue is- I've such a terrible business head. I spend way too much on materials and tools. I expect I'd earn more wage slaving on minimum wage! So- there won't be much of a pension or savings to retire on. So- there's unlikely to be an end to working- if I made it that far. This job will be so much harder as I become old and ill too. I simply have to get out before that.

It's weird though. It's gone from being my coping mechanism to help me stay. I used to very much be a 'live to work' person, to being somewhat of a chore- like everything else.
 
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g357

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Nov 28, 2025
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I'm probably too young to be thinking this way( late 30s ) but I'm sick to the back teeth of working. I worked over 20 years and I've got another 30 years of this until I retire unless I've resorted to ctb.

I daydream about winning the lottery and having enough to not have to go to work.
My jobs not the worst but I dont want to be a wage slave.
I dont want to be rudely woken up by my alarm every morning, being winter I really struggle to get out of bed.
I dont want to contribute to society by paying tax and national insurance. ( yes I know we dont have a choice )
I spend the last few hours of my shift just wanting to not be there and looking forward to going home.

I know I sound like a spoilt brat but i just dont want to do it anymore! I thought about just quitting and just not working for a couple of years as I've got savings but I wont ever find a job as suitable as the one ive got so I guess I'm just gonna have to suck it up.

Please tell me I'm not the only one feeling this way
Nope, my issue is more i think ill never find a career im good at/can do and therefore will struggle in poverty, and always be way too close to losing housing. One day I wont be able to work at all and at an age that my parents wont be a safety net anymore

My suicidal ideation comes from feeling for certain longterm homelessness is in my future, and that horrible things will happen to me living on the streets as a woman
 

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