failed SN - not sure why?

[wljourney]

right, i totally understand, i am just going to err on the side of the 95% of people who had an opposite reaction and consider this the outlier, if everyone else wants to get all COVID about it i am find with that, i am just trying to ask us to slow down and investigate

Yes, investigate is what we are trying to do.

We have established that she used 20g the first night. She now took the remainder and it still didn't work.

Was the item opened when it arrived and deteriorated since then?
Has anyone else received a shipment during the same time and can they test the product?
We have one user who successfully CTBd in May, likely same batch. So why the issues now?


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/post-1627834

 

[CrazyHorse]

Yes, investigate is what we are trying to do.

We have established that she used 20g the first night. She now took the remainder and it still didn't work.

Was the item opened when it arrived and deteriorated since then?
Has anyone else received a shipment during the same time and can they test the product?
We have one user who successfully CTBd in May, likely same batch. So why the issues now?


https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/post-1627834

i am just saying maybe this person is full of shit, we have to allow for that possibility, and if it is a legitamate concern i apologize.

 

[wljourney]

i am just saying maybe this person is full of shit, we have to allow for that possibility, and if it is a legitamate concern i apologize.

Yes, i got that. And I would like us not to pile on a potential victim who just tried to CTB unsuccessfully and is likely in a very vulnerable position right now.

 

[CrazyHorse]

Yes, i got that. And I would like us not to pile on a potential victim who just tried to CTB unsuccessfully and is likely in a very vulnerable position right now.

right, me too, so let's balance it out, i just got the feeling that people were overreacting, but i allowed for the possiblility that i am wrong, i think i made that pretty clear
i mean i tried to be a voice of reason and i put a disclaimer on every post i said about this issue, what else can i do? i just have a dissenting opinion, i am used to not being popular lol.
but covid-type hysteria is really fucking annoying to me, sorry , just the way i feel

 

[wljourney]

right, me too, so let's balance it out, i just got the feeling that people were overreacting, but i allowed for the possiblility that i am wrong, i think i made that pretty clear
i mean i tried to be a voice of reason and i put a disclaimer on every post i said about this issue, what else can i do? i just have a dissenting opinion, i am used to not being popular lol.
but covid-type hysteria is really fucking annoying to me, sorry , just the way i feel

Great then what do you think is next to investigate this further?
Other than assuming the report is fake?
What would you say is the next step to figure out the mystery?

 

[CrazyHorse]

i am going to listen to all the other reports from ic that come in in the next little while and go off that, instead of one instance
i am going to listen to what 95% of the site says, if another report comes in i will reconsider but as of now i am going to trust the science lol
i am sorry that it triggers anybody, but i don't think this person had sn
i am sorry that it triggers anybody, but i don't think this person had sn

 

[DerTod]

Ok the OP said that their product is like coarse salt. I didn't open my bag but i can feel through it and it isn't like coarse salt but more like fine salt. Has no clumps.

 

[houseofleaves]

She now took the remainder and it still didn't work.

Did she?

 

[Foresight]

i tried again last night, took an antacid and skipped out the melatonin... and i'm still here. desperate to find another source so if anyone knows of any that would ship to the UK please pm me

Did she?

 

[wljourney]

In the meantime I found a fourth (apparently successful) goodbye thread from someone who used SN from IC.

I am stumped on why this would work for seemingly so many (with products from the same time period), but not for the OP.

October:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-took-the-sn.76104/
March:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/cya-ss-o7.86201/
April:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-finaly.88157/
May:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-going-in-1-hour.90437/

 

[Cathy Ames]

I have definitely seen this reported.

Hi. Can you please provide evidence?

The "evidence" amounts to posts I have read on the forum.

This person reported it on their good-bye thread, but I'm seeing that the good-bye thread was removed. That's the particular one I was remembering. She was concerned that it wasn't dissolving, then came back and said that it did dissolve after she kept stirring it for a while. I'm sorry, but the names of any other people who might have reported the same thing do not come easily to mind for me. This particular person is one that I remember.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-279#post-1525896

 

[TheLastFemaphrodyke]

could u possibly pm me your sources if theyre still around? getting scared this isnt going to work again

I would be careful disclosing sources, we are supposed to find te sources through PPEH
OP, are you a redhead? I am a redhead and I awoke during appendectomy surgery because I had my hair dyed dark brown and they were not aware I was a redhead. The surgeon explained to me that redheads are impervious to many pain killers and what they use to put to sleep for surgery, so maybe?

 

[Shu]

i just wish i could figure out what... ive sent a photo of the package to another member and theyve confirmed its the right stuff. i have absolutely no clue anymore

You told me the picture of your SN was on your laptop. Just curious as to why it wouldn't be uploaded straight your phone and it was on your laptop? Did you take it from your laptop or something?

 

[Talvikki]

In the meantime I found a fourth (apparently successful) goodbye thread from someone who used SN from IC.

I am stumped on why this would work for seemingly so many (with products from the same time period), but not for the OP.

October:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/i-took-the-sn.76104/
March:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/cya-ss-o7.86201/
April:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-finaly.88157/
May:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/im-going-in-1-hour.90437/

SN van IC

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/final-thoughts-and-goodbye-sn.86458/

BLOODTEST

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-sn-from-ic-has-arrived.85944/#post-1537955

 

[wljourney]

SN van IC

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/final-thoughts-and-goodbye-sn.86458/

BLOODTEST

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/my-sn-from-ic-has-arrived.85944/#post-1537955

Thank you!
Yes another one…
This is all very weird.

 

[Shu]

OP said ne a picture. Said "
i have a picture on my laptop to send but i cant seem to find a way to attach it" maybe I'm making a deal out of nothing but I'm trying to figure out why it was on there why they couldn't just take one from their phone. Maybe being a bit to skeptical.

 

[SofterSoftest]

OP said ne a picture. Said "
i have a picture on my laptop to send but i cant seem to find a way to attach it" maybe I'm making a deal out of nothing but I'm trying to figure out why it was on there why they couldn't just take one from their phone. Maybe being a bit to skeptical.

Might be that OP is only sharing the pic of the SN that has been photoshopped (with an app on their laptop) to blank out details of the source (IC). This is plausible, because the attached pic has an editing error (the word "text" appears by accident somewhere in the picture). Maybe OP could send a clean pic of the product to one of us over PM.

 

[Shu]

Might be that OP is only sharing the pic of the SN that has been photoshopped (with an app on their laptop) to blank out details of the source (IC). This is plausible, because the attached pic has an editing error (the word "text" appears by accident somewhere in the picture). Maybe OP could send a clean pic of the product to one of us over PM.

The details aren't missing though. It's a bag of IC. Wait did they upload a picture here too?

 

[Cathy Ames]

Might be that OP is only sharing the pic of the SN that has been photoshopped (with an app on their laptop) to blank out details of the source (IC). This is plausible, because the attached pic has an editing error (the word "text" appears by accident somewhere in the picture). Maybe OP could send a clean pic of the product to one of us over PM.

Yes.

I realize that there is a certain motivation here towards discrediting the OP, however, some of us do not operate from our phones. I do not use this forum on my phone. In fact, I do very FEW things from my phone. If I for some reason wished to post a picture from my phone onto the forum, then I would move the picture from my phone to my computer via bluetooth. Anyone using the forum on the computer will have to figure out how to go about attaching pictures, which may not be easy for a person having cognitive issues from meds or their illness(es) or lack of sleep or whatever.

 

[wljourney]

The details aren't missing though. It's a bag of IC. Wait did they upload a picture here too?

Yes she posted a link to the pic she uploaded to a share service.

Wait a sec…

Edit: here in this post

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/failed-sn-not-sure-why.92077/post-1627596

 

[Shu]

I am curious if OP got it directly from the source or if they purchased it from a user.

 

[wljourney]

I am curious if OP got it directly from the source or if they purchased it from a user.

Ah, very smart thinking!!

Hadn't even thought of that possibility. You mean someone bought SN from IC, replaced the contents and then sold it on to the OP?
Sneaky. But not impossible.
And the picture was from the person that sold the SN on to her?

Mmhhh

 

[Cathy Ames]

Also, SN is not uniform. It can vary in color. It can be either a powder or a crystal. If OP's description does not match yours (from a different brand or supplier) that doesn't mean a whole lot. But I would generally expect the SN from the same source to be similar. However, even in that case, there might be a change over time that wouldn't necessarily be a sinister thing. It seems like most of these guys are repackaging material that was sent to them by a different company rather than manufacturing it themselves. If they ever switch to a different manufacturer, then the product might start looking different.

 

[Shu]

Ah, very smart thinking!!

Hadn't even thought of that possibility. You mean someone bought SN from IC, replaced the contents and then sold it on to the OP?
Sneaky. But not impossible.
And the picture was from the person that sold the SN on to her?

Mmhhh

Replaced it with Epsom Salt?

 

[wljourney]

Replaced it with Epsom Salt?

BIG if true!!!

But also: why?
They would have to pay $$$ to order from IC. What would they do with the SN and how much would they have to mark up the product to make it worth the work?
And again: why? unless it's for nefarious pro-life reasons? Or regretting their own purchase, wanting to get money back but not be responsible for someone's death?

Ahhhh this is how conspiracies are born.

 

[Shu]

Also, SN is not uniform. It can vary in color. It can be either a powder or a crystal. If OP's description does not match yours (from a different brand or supplier) that doesn't mean a whole lot. But I would generally expect the SN from the same source to be similar. However, even in that case, there might be a change over time that wouldn't necessarily be a sinister thing. It seems like most of these guys are repackaging material that was sent to them by a different company rather than manufacturing it themselves. If they ever switch to a different manufacturer, then the product might start looking different.

I've seen pictures and spoken to several people who have ordered from IC and it has been clumpy every time until they broke it up. Edit: yeah I see what you mean.. if they got a new supplier.

 

[Doombox]

BIG if true!!!

But also: why?
They would have to pay $$$ to order from IC. What would they do with the SN and how much would they have to mark up the product to make it worth the work?
And again: why? unless it's for nefarious pro-life reasons? Or regretting their own purchase, wanting to get money back but not be responsible for someone's death?

Ahhhh this is how conspiracies are born.

Epsom salts would explain the diarrhea too.

 

[wljourney]

I've seen pictures and spoken to several people who have ordered from IC and it has been clumpy every time until they broke it up. Edit: yeah I see what you mean.. if they got a new supplier.

Mine is from April and definitely not clumpy. Medium grain. A bit bigger than table salt grains. And directly from IC.

Epsom salts would explain the diarrhea too.

Definitely.

 

[Cathy Ames]

BIG if true!!!

But also: why?
They would have to pay $$$ to order from IC. What would they do with the SN and how much would they have to mark up the product to make it worth the work?
And again: why? unless it's for nefarious pro-life reasons? Or regretting their own purchase, wanting to get money back but not be responsible for someone's death?

Ahhhh this is how conspiracies are born.

I think it more likely a scammer would duplicate the labels and fill the packages with something else.

 

[wljourney]

I think it more likely a scammer would duplicate the labels and fill the packages with something else.

I clearly have not enough criminal energy to even think of doing this.
But yes. Definitely possible. Especially with so many requests from the UK coming through.

Well, maybe we hear from the OP where she purchased it.