Method Exit bag and inert gas megathread

[parkinglot]

I ordered it to Uncle B3z0s and was shipped directly to my house. No questions asked.

I can't get it shipped because reasons

 

[GasMonkey]

I can't get it shipped because reasons

Ahh didn't remember it.

 

[Theman]

Hi guys.Anyway I can prevent getting any seizures during the Nitrogen gas method?I have mesial temporal sclerosis.Is it possible?I also don't want to flail my arms too much while I go.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

I need some help with my purchasing of nitrogen and regulator if I'm going to go that way. I'm located in Australia and I found one site that sells nitrogen but I'm quite confused on what to buy. I was going to obtain size E (3.6m³) and it has an outlet of type 50 so I'll have to get a type 50 nitrogen regulator but this is where the confusion starts. you see.

This is the regulator



I want to see how type 50 connections connect but I can't seem to find anything on it. I assume you screw it on but I don't know if you need anything additional to help connect it. I'm also confused by the black tip on the left of it, is it a cap the has the hose connector on it?

 

[GasMonkey]

I was going to obtain size E (3.6m³)

That's HUGE lol, too much, you don't really needed anything over 1.0m³ (5L @ 200bar). At most take 2.0m³ (10L @ 200bar).

I assume you screw it on but I don't know if you need anything additional to help connect it.

You will need a wrench.

This is the regulator

That's a pressure regulator. If you are gonna use a manually crafted ExitBag you will need a flow regulator.

I'm also confused by the black tip on the left of it, is it a cap the has the hose connector on it?

That's a rubber washer.

Hi guys.Anyway I can prevent getting any seizures during the Nitrogen gas method?I have mesial temporal sclerosis.Is it possible?I also don't want to flail my arms too much while I go.

Only minor movements were noted in the Dignitas study, nothing worrying.
I have straps in my setup to put my wrist into before I start breathing the N₂.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

LMAO thanks for the help

I went to another site and found this




And this one was from the same site as before
Smallest size nitrogen is a disposable one that I assume isn't enough since it's 2.2 litres (110 Bar - 0.24m3) so I should go for size C or D? C is 0.6m3 and D is 1.7m. Do I need anything to connect the hose to the attachment? I saw some American and European videos that used a screw or even a crimp that you clamp down to lock it in place. ALSO, what hose? the original site I was using only had oxygen, acetylene and LPG and since it has a specific name it wouldn't work on nitrogen? the Max Dog vice video I saw them just placing what looks to be a normal oxygen mask tube onto the connector
Smallest size nitrogen is a disposable one that I assume isn't enough since it's 2.2 litres (110 Bar - 0.24m3) so I should go for size C or D? C is 0.6m3 and D is 1.7m. Do I need anything to connect the hose to the attachment? I saw some American and European videos that used a screw or even a crimp that you clamp down to lock it in place. ALSO, what hose? the original site I was using only had oxygen, acetylene and LPG and since it has a specific name it wouldn't work on nitrogen? the Max Dog vice video I saw them just placing what looks to be a normal oxygen mask tube onto the connector

 

[lion4000b]

Hi guys.Anyway I can prevent getting any seizures during the Nitrogen gas method?I have mesial temporal sclerosis.Is it possible?I also don't want to flail my arms too much while I go.

I plan on tying two ropes around my single seat couch to prevent flailing.. The first when I sit down I will tie around my torso to prevent me lunging back and forth. The second will come around the bottom of the couch and tightly around the arms of the couch. When i put the mask on I will quickly put my arms under the rope. I think thats a good idea but im open to suggestions.

Yes

How do I check it the pressure etc of my N cylinder before use? Its 10 liters and I bought it 2 years ago. Only tested it a few times so it should be full, but not sure if it may have leaked or has another abnormality. Probably just being overly thorough. Im 99% sure it will be fine.

 

[GasMonkey]

How do I check it the pressure etc of my N cylinder before use?

In the pressure gauge.

I should go for size C or D? C is 0.6m3 and D is 1.7m

C would be enough at 15 LPM (600L / 15LPM = 40min), but can get D too if it increases your confidence in the setup.

Do I need anything to connect the hose to the attachment? I saw some American and European videos that used a screw or even a crimp that you clamp down to lock it in place. ALSO, what hose?

Oxygen tube + clamp is good.

the Max Dog vice video I saw them just placing what looks to be a normal oxygen mask tube onto the connector

Yeah if you heat the connector you can insert it in the flow port, it's the way recommended in the PPeH.

Since looks like you are using a manually crafted ExitBag, check the PPeH.

 

[lion4000b]

In the pressure gauge.

I contacted my supplier and they have 0-10 bar, 0-28 bar, 0-50 bar and 0-200 bar outlet adjustable pressures. Any tips on which one to get? I have a 10 litre N bottle. Thanks

 

[GasMonkey]

I contacted my supplier and they have 0-10 bar, 0-28 bar, 0-50 bar and 0-200 bar outlet adjustable pressures. Any tips on which one to get?

Are you talking about N₂ pressure regulators?
If you are gonna use a manually crafted ExitBag you will need a 15 LPM flow regulator (not pressure regulator).

 

[lion4000b]

Are you talking about N₂ pressure regulators?
If you are gonna use a manually crafted ExitBag you will need a 15 LPM flow regulator (not pressure regulator).

I have a flow regulator. I thought I needed to buy a pressure gauge to check the cylinder to make sure it was full?

 

[GasMonkey]

I have a flow regulator. I thought I needed to buy a pressure gauge to check the cylinder to make sure it was full?

Every regulator has a pressure gauge so you already have a pressure gauge.

The only regulators that don't have pressure gauges are the SCUBA ones, which need separated pressure gauge to be connected to one of the outputs.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

In the pressure gauge.


C would be enough at 15 LPM (600L / 15LPM = 40min), but can get D too if it increases your confidence in the setup.


Oxygen tube + clamp is good.


Yeah if you heat the connector you can insert it in the flow port, it's the way recommended in the PPeH.

Since looks like you are using a manually crafted ExitBag, check the PPeH.

Ok, I've decided on getting size D nitrogen and decided on this flow regulator on the same site

I assume this should work pretty similar to other flow regulators but not as simple as something like what Max Dog sells but I'm not 100% certain so I'm going to ask again here. but I do like how the hose is a screw on that way there is a lesser chance of gas leaking.
I was going to go with the plastic bag method but I cannot find a drawstring plastic bag so if a normal plastic bag doesn't work then I might buy a click flow regulator combo with a mask and tubing from a site I was PMed

 

[Obliviate]

Ok, I've decided on getting size D nitrogen and decided on this flow regulator on the same siteView attachment 99195

I assume this should work pretty similar to other flow regulators but not as simple as something like what Max Dog sells but I'm not 100% certain so I'm going to ask again here. but I do like how the hose is a screw on that way there is a lesser chance of gas leaking.
I was going to go with the plastic bag method but I cannot find a drawstring plastic bag so if a normal plastic bag doesn't work then I might buy a click flow regulator combo with a mask and tubing from a site I was PMed

You can make a drawstring bag with elastic or you can use a sweatband/hairband

 

[lion4000b]

Every regulator has a pressure gauge so you already have a pressure gauge.

The only regulators that don't have pressure gauges are the SCUBA ones, which need separated pressure gauge to be connected to one of the outputs.

Ok great. I bought a regulator from Canada. It has yet to arrive. Once attached thats all I need to check the pressure/make sure the cylinder is full?

 

[GasMonkey]

ye

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

It's amazing how long the week can be when you're waiting for something as exciting as nitrogen and regulator kit. It'll probably take a while since the nitrogen comes from across the other side of Australia and the regulator is coming from Canada but it'll give me the time to continue doing the things I love until my fateful day. Some of you might know what I'm talking about when I said Canada. I hope its a legit site. I payed with PayPal so I should be able to get a refund fine if it turns out to be a scam

 

[Kurt]

It's amazing how long the week can be when you're waiting for something as exciting as nitrogen and regulator kit. It'll probably take a while since the nitrogen comes from across the other side of Australia and the regulator is coming from Canada but it'll give me the time to continue doing the things I love until my fateful day. Some of you might know what I'm talking about when I said Canada. I hope its a legit site. I payed with PayPal so I should be able to get a refund fine if it turns out to be a scam

Hi HorseLover3000, Yes, I too know and wanted to share with you confidence that your regulator as my kit also came from Canada and you can rest assured everything is legit and above board. Quality and professional. Even on a personal level answering any questions I've had. ♡

 

[lion4000b]

It's amazing how long the week can be when you're waiting for something as exciting as nitrogen and regulator kit. It'll probably take a while since the nitrogen comes from across the other side of Australia and the regulator is coming from Canada but it'll give me the time to continue doing the things I love until my fateful day. Some of you might know what I'm talking about when I said Canada. I hope its a legit site. I payed with PayPal so I should be able to get a refund fine if it turns out to be a scam

What things do you love doing? I get nearly zero enjoyment from life..

 

[GasMonkey]

I'm seeing a lot of folks joining the "Canadian Club".

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

What things do you love doing? I get nearly zero enjoyment from life..

Well, I love watching movies, anime, listening to music and playing games

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

Had a close call with my nitrogen delivery. Was at college and delivery came on the one day I wasn't home, and I thought my brother was home since I got a message saying it was delivered even though the post office said it's an order they can't leave but when I got home, I found the nitrogen left by my door and my brother wasn't home.

 

[lion4000b]

Hi HorseLover3000, Yes, I too know and wanted to share with you confidence that your regulator as my kit also came from Canada and you can rest assured everything is legit and above board. Quality and professional. Even on a personal level answering any questions I've had. ♡

Did you get the mask or the scuba mask or will you use your own bag?

 

[Greenberg]

I got a mask with demand valve.

 

[GasMonkey]

I got a mask with demand valve.

Is your mask the firefighter-type or the small medical-type?

 

[Greenberg]

Medical.

 

[LesbianCarpetPython]

I bought the EEDB thing. Seems easier than a exit bag

 

[lion4000b]

I bought the EEDB thing. Seems easier than a exit bag

I got that also. However I made a plastic bag previously and its far more pleasant to wear. Light and see through. I think it will work well if I tape the hose to my head, scrunch up the bag prior to inflation as instructed, then pull it down and tighten around my neck.

Why would one use the EEDB over a well made plastic exit bag? Does it fill up quicker (i.e. faster to go unconscious)?

 

[GasMonkey]

Why would one use the EEDB over a well made plastic exit bag? Does it fill up quicker (i.e. faster to go unconscious)?

The EEDB hood is much better than the manually crafted ExitBag, it's a system intended exactly for the subject matter (to breath a gas from a cylinder while being isolated and protected from the external gas). It has one-way valves for CO₂ exhalation, and it's obviously much better designed than the average "TurkeyBag" that you craft at home, since it's a real commercial product used in emergency industries.

 

[lion4000b]

The EEDB hood is much better than the manually crafted ExitBag, it's a system intended exactly for the subject matter (to breath a gas from a cylinder while being isolated and protected from the external gas). It has one-way valves for CO₂ exhalation, and it's obviously much better designed than the average "TurkeyBag" that you craft at home, since it's a real commercial product used in emergency industries.

With the exit bag, I understand you can fill it up with Nitrogen so that when you put if over your head and tighten it you can pass out almost immediately. I assume using the hood you would need to wait a few minutes before it fills up and pass out?

Also, would the hood allow you to lie down? Its nice and secure so I assume if the cylinder is also secure, you can put it on and lie down and drift off...? The plastic bag is flimsy so lying down would not be a good option.