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WallTermite

WallTermite

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So everyone talks about SN, it seems like the most liked method here cause it is painless, but the SI is still there and requires lots of preparation.

I can't think of a single method that doesn't suck in a certain way... either painful, super scary or too much planning, or all of the above.
 
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You could be reckless and risk the consquences later
 
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Can you ever stop the suffering?
Dec 22, 2024
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Yes. Its kinda hard to die peacfully. Wish i could die in my sleep oh that's one of the dreams of mine.
 
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So everyone talks about SN, it seems like the most liked method here cause it is painless, but the SI is still there and requires lots of preparation.

I can't think of a single method that doesn't suck in a certain way... either painful, super scary or too much planning, or all of the above.
Even if you find the right way, the survival instinct will catch you out. It is not easy psychologically at all, even if it is easy practically.
 
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sweetcreep

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yeah SI is just human programing. if you had a perfect life and didn't grow old you can turn 100 years old and still think "i can go on one more day." but realistically if more people had actual safe and peaceful methods that they didn't have to source from shady characters, CTBing wouldn't be such a turmoil.
 
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Aug 31, 2025
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Fr. The fact I can't consume alcohol before is not appealing at all. I want to be trashed when I go. Wish I lived in some high-rise in NYC so I could just drink and jump in privacy (until I hit the ground).
 
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yep theres gonna be some type of pain experienced when CTBing no matter the method. Thats why im fine with SN or KNO2 as my method🤷🏾‍♂️
 
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I know. If there was some magic tasteless death pill you could easily access, I would've left this earth nearly a decade ago. I just keep failing at EVERYTHING. I have nothing and no one now.
 
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Oh I didn't know you couldn't consume alcohol with SN, that does make it less appealing. Why c
Fr. The fact I can't consume alcohol before is not appealing at all. I want to be trashed when I go. Wish I lived in some high-rise in NYC so I could just drink and jump in privacy (until I hit the ground).
 
sweetcreep

sweetcreep

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Oh I didn't know you couldn't consume alcohol with SN, that does make it less appealing. Why c
the protocol calls for an empty stomach. your body will do its best to purge the SN from your system by throwing it up. anything in there might react badly with the SN and make you throw up most of it, which will not be an effective method to CTB then. i'm sure you can still manage to CTB even with alcohol in your system, but i think it's best to not take any risks when using SN if you almost zero chance of survival.


i would also like to clarify for everyone that SN is not entirely painless. without the medications that the protocol calls for, you might suffer for a few hours and seek out medical attention before it has a chance to actually do it's job. most people don't know how strong their SI will be when they're not thinking clearly and their brain just takes over. even with the proper protocol in place, you might still feel some discomfort. but considering the other methods that the public like us can get their hands on, it's relatively the least painless if done right.
 
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My method is Nitrogen Exit Bag, and I found that it doesn't completely suck, you pass out pretty fast and the lack of oxygen kills your brain very quickly. If you follow a guide, there's not too much planning behind the exit bag. You'd know what to expect.
 
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So everyone talks about SN, it seems like the most liked method here cause it is painless, but the SI is still there and requires lots of preparation.

I can't think of a single method that doesn't suck in a certain way... either painful, super scary or too much planning, or all of the above.
you could try the shallow water blackout method
 
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bipolar22

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Aug 31, 2022
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I think its not the method but dying part that sucks. The best method is the one that involves not being born in the first place.
I've been searching stuff about SN, doesn't it cause you to suffocate? I can't see how that's painless. Also I've read it takes 4 hours to die. I'd imagine that would be a terrible 4 hours.
Sn probably not as pleasant as ppl make it believe on here. Obviously they are coping. If you have no other methods available or other methods seem too scary and messy then you gotta take what u can and convince yourself its painless. Just how we humans are. So best to do your own meticulous research on the effects and not fall into the echo chamber trap. Best of luck
 
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webb&flow

dum spiro spero—take it as it comes
Nov 30, 2024
613
Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

Resumé, Dorothy Parker
 
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So everyone talks about SN, it seems like the most liked method here cause it is painless, but the SI is still there and requires lots of preparation.

I can't think of a single method that doesn't suck in a certain way... either painful, super scary or too much planning, or all of the above.
the day i snapped and grabbed the scapel i had sitting i never felt NO pain when i tore open my forearms to cut the artery (which turn out to be a tendon ) , i passed out for 2 hours and woke up in a puddle of blood and then i had another go . again i never felt no pain , my brain was fired up and my only goal was to call it quits but i passed out again and next thing the cops was there and next thing i was in hospital . no there aint a quick painless option ,, as i found the brain switches off the pain if you really want to call it a day , i know bleeding out aint going to work for me but as off yesterday i have started out planning another option to get out of this life . i have terminal cancer and i dont plan letting it kill me as i want to go out my way which looks like hanging . ive found aa old building with roof beams high enough to secure a rope from , also a barrier to stand on . i have did have a noose around my neck pulled tight and threw the it over the top of the door in my bedroom and pulled the end tight , i did pass out but not having the rope anchored i did not have enough tension it . that was just a test run as i dont want to kill myself in my flat . the place i have chosen to do it will ensure i wont be found soon enough to save me , i aint planning to fail again !
 
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webb&flow

dum spiro spero—take it as it comes
Nov 30, 2024
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I will quote what another commentor once said on this very subject:
I'm scared. The process itself doesn't sound too bad when really thought about.

I've read peoples failed experiences. Some say it was not bad before they suddenly blacked out. Some say it was quite distressing. I have no idea how I'll react, I'm young and my body is healthy, I don't know if that will make it harder.

The overall experience I think, can't be that bad. A bad tasting drink, potential headache/nausea [...].

I just think it's scary to know that in those 10-20 minutes, I'll know that my body is dying, my organs are shutting down, I've poisoned myself and this is a permanent decision.

I'm sad that my last meal will be a disgusting drink. I'm sad that my last moments will be me high on benzos, probably dissociating and feeling ill.

I know SN remains one of the easier ways to CTB. But still, it's sad and scary for me. I just wish I didn't have to feel this way and be this way. I just want to spend my life happy and with my girlfriend.

all of your blood molecules literally suffocate; skin turns blue, tachycardia (heart beats really really fast) would likely make it even more stressful; death is pretty brutal; and death is not pretty, no matter what you call it.

So everyone talks about SN, it seems like the most liked method here cause it is painless, but the SI is still there and requires lots of preparation.

I can't think of a single method that doesn't suck in a certain way... either painful, super scary or too much planning, or all of the above.
you hit the nail on the head here. yes; every method is unfeasible or horrifying in some prohibitive and deeply unacceptable way.

that's, tbh; a good argument against suicide itself; the amount of massive time-consuming planning and/or brutal suffering / self-violating self-forcing that a suicide would require. It is no fun to plan your own death; actually, rather, it is time-consuming, maddeningly uncertain, excruciatingly complex, painstakingly tedious, horrifyingly desensitizing, and many other phrases.

Capital punishment is the most premeditated of murders, to which no criminal's deed, however calculated, can be compared. For there to be an equivalency, the death penalty would have to punish a criminal who had warned his victim of the date on which he would inflict a horrible death on him and who, from that moment onward, had confined him at his mercy for months. Such a monster is not to be encountered in private life.

—Albert Camus, Reflections on the Guillotine (1957)
Of course; one could accuse me of exaggerating here—but I do not intend to equivocate suicide to 'murder' or capital punishment itself here. No, what I am focusing on here is the emotion felt by the captive describe in this harrowing quite from Camus on an underlooked terror of the capital punishment: the legal aspect. Being confined in a space, having your name signed away, and feeling unable to escape a date which you feel forced into. Such is the feeling of imprisonment and feeling damned. And a person may end up incidentally imprisoning themselves in their own mind, as well.

The reason I quote this here, is then, to say; that a person issuing their own death warrant, feels similarly damned and horrified. Psychology is above my pay-grade here, but; it appears that the pure shock factor of it can make a person feel so disarmed as to feel powerless to resist against it. In other words; they end up unable to resist convincing themselves. An odd conundrum, maybe.

However; I think it does suffice to say, that many of the deaths undergone by suicide, are especially lonely and oppressive—far from the "died surrounded by loved ones and family" kind of peaceful ending that some would wish for. This is indeed a horrifying thing. And I don't say this to "fearmonger" or scare people: this is just the reality of how suicide is. It's not some kind of divine trip, or the climax to a movie: it's a deeply depressing scene, of loneliness and unrequited emotions (both hopes, dreams, and pain), among countless other things.

One should consider if this scene, and all of the disturbing details of it that stir the heart and cause the mind to be unable to be at ease if one anticipates such a grave fate upon one's self, is truly ideal, and is truly better than all other options available to one's self. It seems too horrible a thing for a person to do to themselves; and I truly do believe that people deserve better than this.

There is talk of there being pleasure or euphoria in this; but I would not believe that there is no pain or shock at all (including desensitized disturbance that is felt but whose expression is slowed), in such a well, shocking & blatantly scary action. The extent one must go to to coax oneself into such a state, to me, seems enough evidence as to the contrivedness of its practicality. It really doesn't seem like an effective or ideal solution; maybe it would be considered effective or ideal if "all you had to do was press some big red button"—but that is not the reality of the crude nature of suicide methods. They are ineffective—can often be easily botched, with painful effects—expensive, chaotic, painful to obtain, stressful to have (it weighs heavy on the mind to have possible death living in the same home as you), and overall just a terrible time.

When the full context of how perilous any suicide method is (One could go into technicalities of vices of this method and misgivings of that; but they become somewhat obvious on closer inspection), recovery does not seem like such a farfetched endeavor, in context. In my opinion; in the VAST majority of cases; suicide is such a painful, perilous, and time-consuming action, that alternatives end up being less painful in the long run. (I'm speaking for the ethics of the individual's life here.—It just seems unideal for a person to experience the pain of forcing themselves into duress, having to literally try and botch their natural survival instinct mechanisms—it all seems terribly traumatizing; let alone how much more disturbing it would be to experience firsthand than to merely assess the situation.)

Of course suicide is never considered an "ideal" option; but in this perspective it seems not only unideal, but suboptimal, and an option that cannot fulfill what the concepts of it seem to promise. The stress and painstaking tedium and shock of planning death, far outweighs any short-term relief that suicidal ideation offers to the person. So it seems that, from the perspective of the self-concerned individual who is most interested in minimizing their own suffering and negative experience, that actually going through with suicide, would not be in their best interests; and would only cause more horrific and unnecessary suffering. This is what I see from my viewpoint here.

I close with this fine poem from Dorothy Parker.

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

Resumé, Dorothy Parker
 
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I will quote what another commentor once said on this very subject:


all of your blood molecules literally suffocate; skin turns blue, tachycardia (heart beats really really fast) would likely make it even more stressful; death is pretty brutal; and death is not pretty, no matter what you call it.


you hit the nail on the head here. yes; every method is unfeasible or horrifying in some prohibitive and deeply unacceptable way.

that's, tbh; a good argument against suicide itself; the amount of massive time-consuming planning and/or brutal suffering / self-violating self-forcing that a suicide would require. It is no fun to plan your own death; actually, rather, it is time-consuming, maddeningly uncertain, excruciatingly complex, painstakingly tedious, horrifyingly desensitizing, and many other phrases.


(…)

I close with this fine poem from Dorothy Parker.

I add that

The last thing a person who doesn't take Nembutal sees and feels is raw pain, relentless suffocation. Every second stretches into a nightmare for the body and mind. A person who commits suicide experiences all the pains of all deaths at once, a conflagration of suffering where none is eased. NONE. There is no beautiful, peaceful death. All are cruel, merciless trials, except under the effect of phenobarbital(which shortens consciousness and reduces the being to an animal state), just to receive the injection that ends the agony. A mechanical, clinical end. Even in this deliverance, one must relinquish what made us human, pain is everywhere
 
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Intoxicated

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The last thing a person who doesn't take Nembutal sees and feels is raw pain, relentless suffocation.
Headshot, gas asphyxiation (with the partial pressure of O₂ below 6 kPa), carbon monoxide poisoning (with CO concentrations above 1.3%), and jumping (from a height of 50 - 200 m) onto a solid surface produce unconsciousness quickly, without profound suffocation sensations.
There is no beautiful, peaceful death. All are cruel, merciless trials, except under the effect of phenobarbital(which shortens consciousness and reduces the being to an animal state), just to receive the injection that ends the agony.
Nembutal is pentobarbital, and pentobarbital ≠ phenobarbital. Both pentobartibal and phenobarbital would likely cause more physical discomfort than the above mentioned methods.
 
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The methods mentioned are relatively rare and very specific cases. In the majority of successful suicides, the means used are more ordinary and often less controllable . Presenting certain methods as fast or effective conceals the fact that they remain unpredictable, frequently failed and accompanied by significant suffering. My purpose is therefore not to compare methods, but to remember that, behind each of them, there is above all a psychic pain.
Nembutal is pentobarbital, and pentobarbital ≠ phenobarbital. Both pentobartibal and phenobarbital would likely cause more physical discomfort than the above mentioned methods.

True, you will excuse me for the two chemical forms. BUT comapring the discomfort of a barbiturate injection to that of a fall or gas asphyxiation is a physiological aberration. In one case, you're inducing deep narcosis to shut down consciousness unstable the transition may be. In the other, you're relying on traumatic violence or oxygen deprivation, which instantly triggers the body's survival instinct and reflex panic. To claim that a mechanical method is more comfortable is purely theoretical it totally ignores the reality of physical shock and the agony of failure, whereas chemistry even when imperfect remains a process of sedation. please tell me what you think about that
Thats what I wanted to say, no method is painless. Pain exists whatever it is. I wanted to point out the difference in death especially , yes
 
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In one case, you're inducing deep narcosis to shut down consciousness unstable the transition may be. In the other, you're relying on traumatic violence or oxygen deprivation
Barbiturates and hypoxemia both induce narcosis, but in different ways. FYI, there were successful attempts to use nitrogen asphyxiation for producing general anesthesia for dental surgery (see https://i.sanctioned-suicide.net/im...n_the_anaesthetic_action_of_pure_nitrogen.pdf pp. 18 - 20) as an alternative to nitrous oxide (pure or mixed with a small proportion of air or oxygen).
which instantly triggers the body's survival instinct and reflex panic.
I've produced loss of consciousness multiple times via inhalation of nitrous oxide, and I never noticed anything remarkably unpleasant. There was some anxiety when I did this for the first time, but in the next tests I just tried to memorize as many unusual perceptions as I could without feeling anxiety. When the gas is inhaled in the most efficient way, the time between starting the inhalations and loss of consciousness is less than 30 seconds. During the initial stage, you don't notice anything unusual. This stage is followed by the period of gradual transition from full consciousness to full unconsciousness, which in case of using an efficient inhalation technique takes about 10 seconds or less.

Here's a thread where I share my perceptions with other user who also tried inhalation of nitrous:
To claim that a mechanical method is more comfortable
Speaking of gas asphyxiation, it's not just purely "mechanical", there is a peculiar physiological process happening behind the scene. By making the partial pressure of oxygen in your lungs very low you produce the inverse transportation of oxygen - from your bloodstream back to the lungs' space. This allows you to get rid of a big amount of oxygen much faster than your body could utilize it - this is why unconsciousness is achieved so quickly - in less than half a minute vs minutes for depletion via natural metabolism.

Gunshot is purely mechanical, which doesn't make it less effective. Destruction of neurons happens so quickly that they won't be able to register anything. An example can be found in the famous video 1444 with Gleb K. who used Saiga 12. I think, it's pretty obvious that his death was instant.
is purely theoretical it totally ignores the reality of physical shock and the agony of failure
Some of us (forums users) have tried gas asphyxiation to the point of LOC. The effects of inhaling nitrous with very small percent of oxygen were also observed by medical professionals and are described in literature. We definitely have some knowledge that goes beyond "purely theoretical".
Thats what I wanted to say, no method is painless.
That simply doesn't look correct. As a counterexample, headshot with a powerful rifle destroys the brain before it would be able to process any pain.
 
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Barbiturates and hypoxemia both induce narcosis, but in different ways. FYI, there were successful attempts to use nitrogen asphyxiation for producing general anesthesia for dental surgery (…)
i think you are confusing immediacy with painlessess. What you're describing is a preference for radical physical methods out of fear of chemical failure. But claiming these methods are painless based on your personal feelings or forum posts is just as subjective as what you are accusing me of.
We both know the mechanisms of neuroreceptors and hypoxia, but theory ends where reality begins. Your mechankcal methods aren't better they are just more violent. Choosing impact or asphyxiation is simply betting on perfect execution. If you knew how many people end up with irreversible neurological or physical disabilities after failing these radical attempt , you would understand that the risk is far more terrifying than a failure of chemical sedation. Chemistry seeks to shut down consciousness your methods seek to break the body. Just because it is quick and dry doesn't mean it's painless
 
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sisyphuswasnthappy

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Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.

Resumé
Completely unrelated with what you said but W pfp
 
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Intoxicated

MIA Man
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What you're describing is a preference for radical physical methods out of fear of chemical failure.
Gas asphyxiation and CO poisoning are chemical methods )
Your mechankcal methods aren't better they are just more violent.
Gunshot and jumping may deliver less physical discomfort than IV or orally administered barbiturates, since OD on barbiturates implies either pain from the IV injection or bitter taste & possible abdominal discomfort, whereas jumping only makes you feel strong wind and headshot is not associated with any remarkable sensations at all.
Choosing impact or asphyxiation is simply betting on perfect execution.
Sure, you need some level of intelligence to execute such methods well. People whose life skills are limited by holding a smartphone in their hands would need some foolproof method more than those who are capable of doing something a bit more complicated than ingestion of liquids.
If you knew how many people end up with irreversible neurological or physical disabilities after failing these radical attempt , you would understand that the risk is far more terrifying than a failure of chemical sedation.
I guess, most of those failed attempts were done with little to no thinking about how to do things right, and many people plain suck at understanding even basic laws of physics. However, some suicidal people are smarter than potatoes, and their risks of facing with CTB failure can be comparable to a probability of getting injuries in a car accident.
Chemistry seeks to shut down consciousness your methods seek to break the body.
Again, gas asphyxiation and CO poisoning are chemistry-based CTB methods. They produce LOC, then coma. The chances of experiencing pain in coma are low.
Just because it is quick and dry doesn't mean it's painless
As for gunshot and jumping, the pain is not perceived because the brain ceases to exist before any painful stimuli could be processed by it. Processing pain is not immediate, it requires some time. If the lag between the stimulus and the brain reaction on it (about 100 ms, AFAIR) exceeds the time needed for brain destruction (which is likely less than 10 ms), the destruction can be deemed painless.
 
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Sure, you need some level of intelligence to execute such methods well. People whose life skills are limited by holding a smartphone in their hands would need some foolproof method more than those who are capable of doing something a bit more complicated than ingestion of liquids.
It's no use answering anymore , you are too smart for this world. You keep ignoring the fact that clinical reality isn't a lab experiment ?
 
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You keep ignoring the fact that clinical reality isn't a lab experiment ?
CTB attempts have the highest success rate among well educated people and lowest success rate among unenducated people. The overall "clinical reality" doesn't really reflect the probability of your success when you belong to either end of the educational spectrum. If you're a knowledgeable person, you simply won't repeat crazy mistakes that naive attempters commonly do; on the other hand, if your head is empty, your odds of failure will be the highest among the population. Being knowledgeable lets you CTB in a highly reliable (albeit not entirely risk-free) and nearly discomfort-free manner without praying on barbiturates.
 
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