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Kotochan

Kotochan

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title - I dry fired in my mouth for the first time, it ended up being a lot easier than I thought. The trigger on this is really easy to pull with just a little bit of pressure. Looking back to the first time I tried to kill myself I took a modern shotgun loaded it and tried to get myself to pull the trigger but it takes so much pressure and I wasn't able to get myself to do it. If that trigger was like this one i'd be dead lmao

I also finally got my percussion caps so I could shoot myself
 
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Seiko

"Nothing's gonna hurt you, baby."
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Oh yeah. Survival instinct is strong with firearms. I'm waiting for a year until I can legally buy my Glock G17 and save it for a rainy day.
 
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Smart No More

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May 5, 2021
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Oh yeah. Survival instinct is strong with firearms. I'm waiting for a year until I can legally buy my Glock G17 and save it for a rainy day.
How old do you need to be? 21?
 
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Maudlin

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I once met a man who placed the barrel of a .410 under his chin, and blew off the bottom of his jaw and much of his upper lip.

He was left with the most eerie looking morbid "grin" and the necessity of carrying around a rag to catch the drool, and cover the gaping tissues where his jaw once was.

He could only make guttural grunts to emphasize the words he would scribble on a pocket notebook he carried everywhere he went.

I never bothered to ask his name. Aside from when he was in great distress (greater than his default position... I could tell by the volume and frequency of his grunts) I would ignore him completely. It was just too much of an affront to my disposition.

His existence seemed to effect everyone who wasn't paid to care for him the same way.

I've often wondered, how could one miss so spectacularly?
 
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I once met a man who placed the barrel of a .410 under his chin, and blew off the bottom of his jaw and much of his upper lip.

He was left with the most eerie looking morbid "grin" and the necessity of carrying around a rag to catch the drool, and cover the gaping tissues where his jaw once was.

He could only make guttural grunts to emphasize the words he would scribble on a pocket notebook he carried everywhere he went.

I never bothered to ask his name. Aside from when he was in great distress (greater than his default position... I could tell by the volume and frequency of his grunts) I would ignore him completely. It was just too much of an affront to my disposition.

His existence seemed to effect everyone who wasn't paid to care for him the same way.

I've often wondered, how could one miss so spectacularly?
I think people just expect more from guns because of tv or something, poor guy that's so sad.
 
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Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
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Yes, it was sad. Such an unenviable defeat.
Whatever circumstance led him to his special choice, I'm sure his lack made it so much worse.

As I said, I could never bring myself to attempt any conversation beyond "This? is this what you're grunting on about? okay, here you go." or, "I dunno, dude" as I swiftly made myself scarce.

I once read something from someones' religious book that started: "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge".

It got me thinking, and I think it made me quite analytical at a young age. I'm thankful for that. I like my own flavor of eerie grin, with my jaw and lips intact. lol
 
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makethepainstop

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I possess a firearm, but I hesitate to use it for fear of brain damage and still being alive, cared for in a nursing home or worse. One should always research their preferred method to be certain you ctb, and do not get revived to live with severe structural damage. For me SN is the only way to fly, er, catch the bus. Love to all here.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I once met a man who placed the barrel of a .410 under his chin, and blew off the bottom of his jaw and much of his upper lip.

He was left with the most eerie looking morbid "grin" and the necessity of carrying around a rag to catch the drool, and cover the gaping tissues where his jaw once was.

He could only make guttural grunts to emphasize the words he would scribble on a pocket notebook he carried everywhere he went.

I never bothered to ask his name. Aside from when he was in great distress (greater than his default position... I could tell by the volume and frequency of his grunts) I would ignore him completely. It was just too much of an affront to my disposition.

His existence seemed to effect everyone who wasn't paid to care for him the same way.

I've often wondered, how could one miss so spectacularly?
Honestly, the first time I heard that you COULD even fail with any type of gun really shocked me. Still, I'm UK based, so haven't had any experience with them. Too influenced by films I guess.

Do you suppose it's the kickback that causes a miss?

Anyone watched 'Christine' (2016) about a newsreader who shot herself on live TV? She had spoken to a cop (I think) who said it was best to aim at the side of the head. I don't know. After hearing you COULD miss, the whole thing just puzzles me.

That poor guy you described. It's just so upsetting to contemplate that people who are ALREADY suffering enough to want to end it could well end up in an even worse condition if an attempt fails.
 
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Smart No More

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People have a tendency to flinch when pulling the trigger of a firearm directed at themselves. This is often the reason for failure and subsequent ongoing brutal medical complications.
 
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Maudlin

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Honestly, the first time I heard that you COULD even fail with any type of gun really shocked me. Still, I'm UK based, so haven't had any experience with them. Too influenced by films I guess.

Do you suppose it's the kickback that causes a miss?

Anyone watched 'Christine' (2016) about a newsreader who shot herself on live TV? She had spoken to a cop (I think) who said it was best to aim at the side of the head. I don't know. After hearing you COULD miss, the whole thing just puzzles me.

That poor guy you described. It's just so upsetting to contemplate that people who are ALREADY suffering enough to want to end it could well end up in an even worse condition if an attempt fails.
"Smart No More" has it right. The intensity of the moment, and lack of knowledge is the issue. By the time you feel the "kick" of a firearm, the projectile is already well on its' way. The brain stem controls all known communication between the brain and the major organs...


I would have never met that guy had he given that .410 a "blowjob".

Excuse my crudeness... I'm toxic.
 
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Kotochan

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Jul 17, 2019
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I possess a firearm, but I hesitate to use it for fear of brain damage and still being alive, cared for in a nursing home or worse. One should always research their preferred method to be certain you ctb, and do not get revived to live with severe structural damage. For me SN is the only way to fly, er, catch the bus. Love to all here.
I hope that if I miss the brainstem I'm far enough away from any people that I can't be revived. In the woods and with the gun in my mouth preferably, I just have to make up some excuse to leave my house when it's late
 
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I've often wondered, how could one miss so spectacularly?
People have expectations from media - suicide by firearm seems to generally be shown like that. Ofc you'll most likely just blow off your face, damage your frontal lobe. But people are likely desperate/emotional and don't consider that.

It's so sad when people try to ctb like that and their lives become worse….
 
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Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
355
Media is brainwashing. I'm glad I quit watching TV in the 90's.
I hope that if I miss the brainstem I'm far enough away from any people that I can't be revived. In the woods and with the gun in my mouth preferably, I just have to make up some excuse to leave my house when it's late
Why the rush, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Kotochan

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Media is brainwashing. I'm glad I quit watching TV in the 90's.

Why the rush, if you don't mind me asking?
there's no rush, although I was antsy waiting around for the percussion caps - I don't know when I'll go for it, when I'm fed up enough probably. Or maybe I'll hold onto the gun like I did my SN lol
 
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Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
355
there's no rush, although I was antsy waiting around for the percussion caps - I don't know when I'll go for it, when I'm fed up enough probably. Or maybe I'll hold onto the gun like I did my SN lol
Sometimes it's comforting knowing I can check out any time I like.
 
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Hollowillow

The only place that allows negative feelings.
Aug 7, 2022
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title - I dry fired in my mouth for the first time, it ended up being a lot easier than I thought. The trigger on this is really easy to pull with just a little bit of pressure. Looking back to the first time I tried to kill myself I took a modern shotgun loaded it and tried to get myself to pull the trigger but it takes so much pressure and I wasn't able to get myself to do it. If that trigger was like this one i'd be dead lmao

I also finally got my percussion caps so I could shoot myself
I wonder if we can put a stick through a shot gun trigger and push it with the feet? For science? Also because I'm frail & weak. I think I'd aim wrong & shoot off the atheist part of my brain...
I once met a man who placed the barrel of a .410 under his chin, and blew off the bottom of his jaw and much of his upper lip.

He was left with the most eerie looking morbid "grin" and the necessity of carrying around a rag to catch the drool, and cover the gaping tissues where his jaw once was.

He could only make guttural grunts to emphasize the words he would scribble on a pocket notebook he carried everywhere he went.

I never bothered to ask his name. Aside from when he was in great distress (greater than his default position... I could tell by the volume and frequency of his grunts) I would ignore him completely. It was just too much of an affront to my disposition.

His existence seemed to effect everyone who wasn't paid to care for him the same way.

I've often wondered, how could one miss so spectacularly?
People can't bear to see the abyss and abandon people in it... Even when they are also in the dark... To be fair I don't think I could handle being his friend either. But he would probably run away from me first. Maybe he's super positive and appreciate life now...
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i need a gun
Me too but it be funnier to use it on my abusers. Maybe I can get killed by a cop. I guess one can dream.
Sometimes it's comforting knowing I can check out any time I like.
That's why i bought sn...
 
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Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
355
I wonder if we can put a stick through a shot gun trigger and push it with the feet? For science? Also because I'm frail & weak. I think I'd aim wrong & shoot off the atheist part of my brain...
You don't need a stick.

I knew a woman who put a rifle up to her belly and used her toe to pull the trigger. She was laying on her back, in a small closet, at the time.

She didn't die... I think she did it for attention. She certainly got attention from it.

As I understand it, they had to remove her intestines along the path the bullet took, and every puncture through they cut out an inch or two of intestine so they'd have a flush surface to suture. She likely lost a few feet, total.

She meant a lot to me, at one time. It was pretty depressing.
 
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You don't need a stick.

I knew a woman who put a rifle up to her belly and used her toe to pull the trigger. She was laying on her back, in a small closet, at the time.

She didn't die... I think she did it for attention. She certainly got attention from it.

As I understand it, they had to remove her intestines along the path the bullet took, and every puncture through they cut out an inch or two of intestine so they'd have a flush surface to suture. She likely lost a few feet, total.

She meant a lot to me, at one time. It was pretty depressing.
How horrifying. Why do you think she did it for attention? People said that about me when I called for help about physical pain so it hurts me to read it. I don't think if she wanted attention she would have went to a bar to show her boobs. Or at least would have tried some harmless pills. When a woman threw something as brutal as a shotgun she means it. To pull the trigger with her toes must have been really desperate... She was not able to pull the trigger manually... But really wanted to. I feel like I should say that I'm sorry that she survived... unless she's happy...
 
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Maudlin

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Dec 10, 2021
355
"People can't bear to see the abyss and abandon people in it... Even when they are also in the dark... To be fair I don't think I could handle being his friend either. But he would probably run away from me first. Maybe he's super positive and appreciate life now..."

Yeah. I was pretty young, in trouble with the law, and incarcerated in a youth facility on State Hospital grounds. He was one of the State Hospital inmates.

Every time I think about how he effected me, I'd feel a deep hole inside me, I'd almost feel bad about not trying to help him out more, or something. Finally, I just learned to not think about it, at all.

Funny, I haven't thought or told anyone about that guy for decades.
How horrifying. Why do you think she did it for attention? People said that about me when I called for help about physical pain so it hurts me to read it. I don't think if she wanted attention she would have went to a bar to show her boobs. Or at least would have tried some harmless pills. When a woman threw something as brutal as a shotgun she means it. To pull the trigger with her toes must have been really desperate... She was not able to pull the trigger manually... But really wanted to. I feel like I should say that I'm sorry that she survived... unless she's happy...
"I don't think if she wanted attention she would have went to a bar to show her boobs. Or at least would have tried some harmless pills."

It's funny you say that. She was a dancer in a "gentlemens" club, at the time. And a drug addict... we both were.
I was in my 20's, and after working for a few years I decided working was for suckers. I saved up a few paychecks, bought quantity, and started a career as a low-life poison dealer.

She was a beautiful brunette bi-sexual exhibitionist. It was a match made in heaven, until it wasn't.

Flash forward a few years, I've been clean (but still dealing) for about eight months. I bought a house in a small town with an acre and a half yard, and started building it up. In my mind, we were going to settle down, try to start a family. We had money, a home... everything. Apparently that wasn't what was in her mind, at all. She would never get clean, never wanted to leave the hustle life.

She wanted my attention.

I had my bag over my shoulder, had just left the bedroom and was halfway down the hall when I heard the shot. I dropped everything and ran back, finding her in the closet . At first, I thought she had just fired into the wall, or something. She would do that sometimes, whenever she got mad at me. Then I saw the hole in her nightgown, and the blood.

She didn't use a shotgun, she used a .22 LR semi-auto rifle. If it had been a shotgun, there would have been no way to keep her from bleeding out in time for the paramedics to arrive.

I spent the next 12 or so hours being grilled by the cops, of course they thought I shot her. They didn't bother to check either one of us for powder residue... it was cut and dried in their minds because of the angle of entry.
She later told me they were waiting in her hospital room, and might even have woke her from the anesthesia.
She said they were telling her what happened. She said she had to repeat herself again and again, for over an hour, still groggy from the surgery.

I was released in the early afternoon and walked from the jail to a bar I liked to frequent back before I got clean. The bartender there always had a crush on me (or my dope) and took pity on me, and treated my sorrows like only a woman can.

I didn't see another sober night for at least six months.

The good thing is, the next time I packed up to leave I had less than half the stuff to pack, in that house we had shared... her folks came and took away most of what the police left (which wasn't much).

Somehow, the house I'd bought that represented all the dreams I had burned down. I headed for the coast, and the state sold the land the house had been on for back taxes a few years later from the county courthouse steps.

I've spoken to her a few times, over the years. She caught a case for two ounces of H up in Idaho a few years later, but beat it by framing some poor 19 year old boy she had on the hook. She later settled down and married a fellow, had a few kids. They now live about an hours' drive from where the house intended for us once was. I have no idea how much he knows about her past. It's certainly not my place to tell him.

I hope she's happy. I'll never speak to her again, after what she did to that kid up in Idaho. Told her that then, too.
Sometimes I'll check around online to see if she's still alive and kickin'. She seems to be.
 
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sevenkarmas

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I met a guy that used a .40 caliber one time. That turned me off of suicide by firearm. Plus, if someone is using a shotgun, they need to have the right ammunition. Bird shot will just turn you into a vegetable.
 

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