Drowning vs Hanging

[monetpompo]

i'm bad at doing research so i mostly read posts on this forum lol
there's a risk for brain damage if you get rescued/stopped in the middle of drowning or hanging. what do you think the pros and cons are for either? i think that drowning is simpler than hanging because i would have to learn how to tie rope knots and i'm dumb, and it doesn't require a lot of finesse to do as long as you don't get saved. though, i know a lot of people have a preference for hanging since it's the second most common suicide method. i guess the most important comparison is that drowning has a higher agony rating than hanging. i've always been bad at swimming since i never learned how to do it, so i think it would be really easy for me to drown if i were to be swimming at night on my own.

what are your guys' thoughts?

 

[lamy's sacred sleep]

drowning sounds incredibly drawn out and terrible (at first glance), but I'm not familiar with what the actual methods are for drowning whereas i'm much more familiar with hanging (theoretically).
so i'd always lean towards hanging personally.

 

[monetpompo]

thank you @lamy's sacred sleep and @rainw3rld4ngel for the advice! yeah, there's a bigger breadth of research with hanging. i guess it's easier to navigate when there's actually guides on how to do it whereas you just kind of wait to drown and try to take drugs or alcohol so that it's slightly less painful. i've never done much things impulsively (never attempted), but i feel like i just want something "easy" to do. i'll keep looking into things.

 

[deadbidaylight]

You don't need to learn knots in order to hang yourself. People do it all the time without ever researching "proper" methods in advance and are successful.

There are definitely ways to make it less painful and cause you to fall unconscious quicker, but none of those things have to do with tying a rope. Hanging is incredibly simple if you don't put too much thought into it. I think that's where people get into trouble when researching some methods. It ends up becoming far more complicated than it needs to be.

I have heard that drowning is incredibly distressing and painful, and quite slow. I would choose almost any method before drowning. That's just my opinion though. I haven't heard of many successful CTB via drowning since SI is also a giant risk factor with this method.

 

[AreWeWinning]

i'm bad at doing research so i mostly read posts on this forum lol
there's a risk for brain damage if you get rescued/stopped in the middle of drowning or hanging. what do you think the pros and cons are for either? i think that drowning is simpler than hanging because i would have to learn how to tie rope knots and i'm dumb, and it doesn't require a lot of finesse to do as long as you don't get saved. though, i know a lot of people have a preference for hanging since it's the second most common suicide method. i guess the most important comparison is that drowning has a higher agony rating than hanging. i've always been bad at swimming since i never learned how to do it, so i think it would be really easy for me to drown if i were to be swimming at night on my own.

what are your guys' thoughts?

If we don't consider the quickness of death, then I think drowning can be simpler. The only problem is to find a suitable location. It's not easy. Where there is water, there is usually some type of coast guard or there are people around. If you rent a boat or something, people will pick up on suspicious activity or your mood or state of mind. It is not impossible to find an isolated location, but it's much harder than with hanging.

If I were doing drowning, I would attach weights to my body. I wouldn't trust benzos or alcohol or anything else.

Hanging can be more complex. It's not difficult if you're handy with contraptions and these kinds of things, but you would need to think it through at least a little bit if you want to do it right. On the other hand, finding an isolated location is much, much easier.

When it comes to experience, hanging can definitely be very quick if done properly. Drowning can be slower, but I remember reading about a near drowning experience once where the person said once they've 'inhaled' water (which is inevitable), it doesn't feel so bad. Personally, drowning scares me though.

 

[rainw3rld4ngel]

[for context, i previously replied "don't underestimate the 'agony' factor. i think it might be lot more serious than the difficulty of learning a knot" but deleted it. im sure its 'fine' but i often don't like my tone & dont really want to be 'advising' people here]

Drowning can be slower, but I remember reading about a near drowning experience once where the person said once they've 'inhaled' water (which is inevitable), it doesn't feel so bad. Personally, drowning scares me though.

yes i've read similar (as well as the contrary, where someone might describe their lungs 'burning').
sometimes i wonder just how fallible memory may be, i mean especially in extreme / near-death situations. or how much of that may be remembered correctly, but attributable to some other factor, such as maybe adrenaline, or something psychological.

this subject is beyond the point of OP's question, but yeah like, ive even read accounts of being shot where people say they couldn't even feel it at the time due to all the adrenaline, only looking down and putting their hand over the blood, things like that. but this shouldn't be taken as a grain of hope to proceed with any agonizing method of course, i mean the sheer panic levels involved in that are extremely undesirable in the first place due to the experience & the failure risk, and there are always many contrary accounts of pain as well. just something i've wondered about sometimes.

 

[AreWeWinning]

[for context, i previously replied "don't underestimate the 'agony' factor. i think it might be lot more serious than the difficulty of learning a knot" but deleted it. im sure its 'fine' but i often don't like my tone & dont really want to be 'advising' people here]


yes i've read similar (as well as the contrary, where someone might describe their lungs 'burning').
sometimes i wonder just how fallible memory may be, i mean especially in extreme / near-death situations. or how much of that may be remembered correctly, but attributable to some other factor, such as maybe adrenaline, or something psychological.

this subject is beyond the point of OP's question, but yeah like, ive even read accounts of being shot where people say they couldn't even feel it at the time due to all the adrenaline, only looking down and putting their hand over the blood, things like that. but this shouldn't be taken as a grain of hope to proceed with any agonizing method of course, i mean the sheer panic levels involved in that are extremely undesirable in the first place due to the experience & the failure risk, and there are always many contrary accounts of pain as well. just something i've wondered about sometimes.

I agree that the adrenaline and panic can alter the experience, and memory can also be fallible due to shock. These are facts.

When it comes to the experience, I certainly don't want it to be unnecessarily painful, but I tend to view it from the perspective of whether I'm able to go through with that method or not. My main priority is not to be comfortable but to choose an effective method. If a method can or might be somewhat uncomfortable or a little painful, but it's highly effective, and I'm able to go through with it, does it really matter? When pain — or the fear of it — can be a cause for failure, that's a different story, but pain in itself and having a pleasant experience don't really concern me. I mean, compared to the significance and ramifications of what we're about to do, those few seconds or minutes are not things we need to worry about in my opinion.

I don't disagree with you, and I wouldn't want an agonising method either. But I also want to to add that first, it's not necessary, because good and effective methods exist, and second, "agonising" is subjective and relative. If an agonising method was my only choice, or it was the most practical method all things considered, and I really wanted to do it, I would still probably consider going with it. I think where people make a mistake is that they want a method that is perfectly comfortable, and they don't realise that there is no such thing, and this is what's preventing them from doing what they've decided to do. There is no perfectly painless method. Or if there is, it either won't be effective or won't be accessible to us.

 

[Worndown]

Done well, hanging knocks you out quickly. Nobody drowns quickly.