Does God exist?

[Serena fuga]

Today, with my graduation approaching, I question the existence of God... and I used to be a very religious person.
I've been through several religions, and Kardecism was the one I felt most connected to.
But in recent years, with so much bad stuff and suffering happening to me and the world, I've become an atheist.
In my view, I think a "God" of love, a heavenly "Father," would never let his children suffer like this... ah, but it's free will, but why create good and evil? Wouldn't it be better to just have good, just love? ah, but it's for the evolution of souls, but what's the point of that crap? Only for a masochistic God, maybe... seeing wars killing little children and innocent people at the cost of evolution... it's incomprehensible. Why create and invent pain, hunger, and so many other terrible feelings? It makes no sense for a "good" God... and the animals that in their natural habitat are forced to kill each other to eat, when we see those documentaries on Netflix it's heartbreaking, the animal that is killing takes a long time to finish, the slaughtered creature suffers in agony until it dies, when pieces aren't taken from it while it's still alive, and that must hurt a lot... why would a good God create a world like that? Before, I was afraid of killing myself and going to hell and rotting there, today I believe that God doesn't exist and was just an invention that ancient humans invented to appease other terrible humans, to restrain entire nations through fear... yes, if you are not good you will not go to heaven. My life will be without guilt, without fear of a God who will punish me for it, it will simply all end and that's it... that's what I believe.

I leave all my respect for those who have faith... it was just a moment I had on the subject that I felt like sharing!!

 

[mars2027]

I see God as a source or starting point of existence, but not necessarily something with inherent meaning. I think humans have given it meaning to shape beliefs and behavior, partly out of the uncertainty and fear surrounding existence and what comes after death.

 

[Serena fuga]

I see God as a source or starting point of existence, but not necessarily something with inherent meaning. I think humans have given it meaning to shape beliefs and behavior, partly out of the uncertainty and fear surrounding existence and what comes after death.

I agree with you!!

 

[BradGuy123]

People have debated this question since the dawn of time. There is no evidence of the existence of God or if there is a God which religion is correct. Your stance is very logical and understandable. I choose to believe in God. You respect people who have faith, and I respect those who don't.

 

[KinderCorn]

Once you reject the religious view, you have the additional problem of defining what god even is / would be. No matter what, hard to make sense of existence.

 

[Serena fuga]

People have debated this question since the dawn of time. There is no evidence of the existence of God or if there is a God which religion is correct. Your stance is very logical and understandable. I choose to believe in God. You respect people who have faith, and I respect those who don't.

I used to have a lot of faith, but with the worsening of my depression, some unsuccessful attempts to leave home, horrible panic attacks during the pandemic that I still have today, these endless battles, all of this left me very lost and I started to seriously question my faith and God!!

Once you reject the religious view, you have the additional problem of defining what god even is / would be. No matter what, hard to make sense of existence.

Yes, I think about that a lot!

 

[Morte]

I don't believe in a religious god, but I do believe that there is a much greater and incomprehensible intelligence governing the universe. It makes no sense for such a complex world to simply exist without anything else behind it. Our own consciousness is already absurd. Why are we even conscious? Why did it need to exist?

 

[SoverignDreamer97]

Hmmm... Suppose that it was God who subjected all creation to futility (Romans 8:20-23); what is it to you that He exists, given that without faith it is impossible to please Him; that all who come to God must believe that He is, and that He's a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him? (Hebrews 11:6)

If you are without faith, and have no desire to seek Him, let alone have anything to do with Him, His followers, or Christianity itself, then you shouldn't worry about whether or not the biblical claims are true, and that God exists; so long as you believe not on the Son, you'll surely be separated from Him and His followers regardless.

For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, Christ Jesus of Nazareth; He died on the cross, His blood was shed for the remission of sins, and then He rose on the third day, that whosoever believes on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God." (John 3:16-21)

But if you do wish to be with Him, then by all means believe on the Son.

Either way, there's no reason to worry, even in the context of suicide, for suicide is not a sin which leads to separation, but rather... unbelief is.

 

[soonatpeace777888]

I don't believe in a religious god, but I do believe that there is a much greater and incomprehensible intelligence governing the universe. It makes no sense for such a complex world to simply exist without anything else behind it. Our own consciousness is already absurd. Why are we even conscious? Why did it need to exist?

Yes but see how what ever alleged intelligence is immune from this same question for some reason?

 

[Morte]

Yes but see how what ever alleged intelligence is immune from this same question for some reason?

Because you fall into the fallacy of infinite regress.

Assuming that God had a creator means accepting that there is always a prior creator, which creates an endless circular logic with no resolution.

The universe is not infinite, it is expanding, means it must have had an initial cause.

For such cause to avoid falling into the same fallacy, it needs to be infinite and timeless.

 

[Serena fuga]

I don't believe in a religious god, but I do believe that there is a much greater and incomprehensible intelligence governing the universe. It makes no sense for such a complex world to simply exist without anything else behind it. Our own consciousness is already absurd. Why are we even conscious? Why did it need to exist?

Good question?

Because you fall into the fallacy of infinite regress.

Assuming that God had a creator means accepting that there is always a prior creator, which creates an endless circular logic with no resolution.

The universe is not infinite, it is expanding, means it must have had an initial cause.

For such cause to avoid falling into the same fallacy, it needs to be infinite and timeless.

It's all very complex... I believe in reactive energy; our soul is energy, and when we die, it ends, and that's the end of it!

Once you reject the religious view, you have the additional problem of defining what god even is / would be. No matter what, hard to make sense of existence.

True!!

 

[LastPenance]

Personally I believe the answer is yes, as I've had religious experiences involving signs and visions, but I'm also likely schizophrenic so feel free to take what I say with a grain of salt

 

[soonatpeace777888]

Because you fall into the fallacy of infinite regress.

Assuming that God had a creator means accepting that there is always a prior creator, which creates an endless circular logic with no resolution.

The universe is not infinite, it is expanding, means it must have had an initial cause.

For such cause to avoid falling into the same fallacy, it needs to be infinite and timeless.

The universe does not need an initial cause that is cosmological argument BS. It's possible it had one but if it did it doesn't need to be some dude which is essentially what God is even disguised in modern philosophical garb.

 

[Serena fuga]

The universe does not need an initial cause that is cosmological argument BS. It's possible it had one but if it did it doesn't need to be some dude which is essentially what God is even disguised in modern philosophical garb.

There are so many theories, and I think we'll never discover the truth, only assumptions!

 

[Aflame5926]

imagine god answer is actually who exit life earlier then planned.

(THIS IS A JOKE DO NOT TAKE IT SERIOUS)

 

[herms_sn]

You can't prove a negative, in the sense that if there is no god, there'd be no evidence to prove there isn't one.
Religious faith can provide a lot of support, yet it is based on a couple of thousands years of human philosophy, and often on attempts to manipulate people.

 

[telekon]

It's about the story. The world is cruel, but men and women are gods. They just don't know it yet. We all have superpowers, abilities, potential... The world is turning and it's been cycling through good and bad. We're just in the bad time now.

There are the powers we need to learn how to control...

︎ = assertiveness; ︎ = manifestation; ︎ = communication; ︎ = emotion; ︎ = beauty; ︎ = analysis; ︎ = relating things; ︎ = transformation; ︎ = crusading; ︎ = entrepreneurship; ︎ = innovation; ︎ = intuition

 

[Morte]

The universe does not need an initial cause that is cosmological argument BS. It's possible it had one but if it did it doesn't need to be some dude which is essentially what God is even disguised in modern philosophical garb.

No, the universe is expanding and one day entropy will kill it too, which means it is not eternal and therefore had an initial cause.

 

[The Dead Line]

We created

 

[AnonymousCat1]

Impossible to know, so it doesn't matter imo

 

[endboss]

I don't know if God exists, but the devil does for sure

 

[bl33ding_heart]

Something most religious people fail to understand is as long as a potential existing god has the ability to create free will, they will be imperfect. There is no such thing as a fully omnipotent and omniscient god as long as awareness and control over one's own actions exists. Because evil and harm will inevitably come into existence. God doesn't necessarily create all of the evil in the world himself. But is still the backbones to it since he chose to create conscious beings and give them free will. A god that creates any form of consciousness with or without free will is cruel. (If a god hypothetically exists) They should have never created us to begin.

 

[sunnyside]

I feel like I should believe in God because something of a miracle happend when a Christian came to pray for me however it also makes me confused because I don't believe in free will and I don't understand the problem of evil I don't understand why it has to exist

 

[Hollowman]

No

 

[SoverignDreamer97]

I feel like I should believe in God because something of a miracle happend when a Christian came to pray for me however it also makes me confused because I don't believe in free will and I don't understand the problem of evil I don't understand why it has to exist

I know it's not relevant, but soon as I saw your username, I automatically started thinking about the brand of naphtha I used to defat my yew seeds.

 

[Serena fuga]

Hoje, com o meu ctb se aproximando, questiono a existência de Deus... e eu costumava ser uma pessoa muito religiosa.
Já experimentei várias religiões, e o Kardecismo foi aquele com o qual me senti mais conectado.
Mas nos últimos anos, com tanta coisa ruim e sofrimento comigo e com o mundo, eu me tornei até você.
Na minha opinião, um "Deus" de amor, um "Pai" celestial, jamais permitiria que seus filhos sofressem assim... ah, mas é o livre arbítrio, mas por que criar o bem e o mal? Não seria melhor ter apenas o bem, apenas amor? ah, mas é para a evolução das almas, mas qual o sentido disso? Só para um Deus masoquista, talvez... ver guerras matando criancinhas e inocentes em nome da evolução... é incompreensível. Por que criar e inventar dor, fome e tantos outros sentimentos ocultos? Não faz sentido para um Deus "bom"... e os animais que, em seu habitat natural, são obrigados a se matar para comer, quando vemos esses documentários na Netflix, é de o coração, o animal que mata leva muito tempo para terminar, a criatura abatida sofre em agonia até morrer, quando pedaços dela não são retirados enquanto ainda está vivo, e isso deve fazer muito... por que um Deus bom criaria um mundo assim? Antes, eu tinha medo de me matar e ir para o inferno apodrecer lá. Hoje, acredito que Deus não existe e foi apenas uma invenção dos humanos antigos para apaziguar outros humanos ocultos, para subjugar nações inteiras pelo medo... sim, se você não for bom, não irá para o céu. Minha vida será sem culpa, sem medo de um Deus que me castigará por isso; simplesmente tudo acabouá e pronto... é nisso que acredito.

Deixo todo o meu respeito por aqueles que têm fé... foi apenas um momento que tive sobre o assunto e que senti vontade de compartilhar!

It's about the story. The world is cruel, but men and women are gods. They just don't know it yet. We all have superpowers, abilities, potential... The world is turning and it's been cycling through good and bad. We're just in the bad time now.

There are the powers we need to learn how to control...

︎ = assertiveness; ︎ = manifestation; ︎ = communication; ︎ = emotion; ︎ = beauty; ︎ = analysis; ︎ = relating things; ︎ = transformation; ︎ = crusading; ︎ = entrepreneurship; ︎ = innovation; ︎ = intuition

That's an interesting way to think about it!

It's about the story. The world is cruel, but men and women are gods. They just don't know it yet. We all have superpowers, abilities, potential... The world is turning and it's been cycling through good and bad. We're just in the bad time now.

There are the powers we need to learn how to control...

︎ = assertiveness; ︎ = manifestation; ︎ = communication; ︎ = emotion; ︎ = beauty; ︎ = analysis; ︎ = relating things; ︎ = transformation; ︎ = crusading; ︎ = entrepreneurship; ︎ = innovation; ︎ = intuition

That's an interesting way to think about it!

 

[ireallywasnttogopls]

if God was real his ultimate act of love would be to take us all out of existence (painlessly)

 

[tomame]

consider yourself blessed to not know the answer to this

 

[Warum]

no

 

[PanaxMan]

Today, with my graduation approaching, I question the existence of God... and I used to be a very religious person.
I've been through several religions, and Kardecism was the one I felt most connected to.
But in recent years, with so much bad stuff and suffering happening to me and the world, I've become an atheist.
In my view, I think a "God" of love, a heavenly "Father," would never let his children suffer like this... ah, but it's free will, but why create good and evil? Wouldn't it be better to just have good, just love? ah, but it's for the evolution of souls, but what's the point of that crap? Only for a masochistic God, maybe... seeing wars killing little children and innocent people at the cost of evolution... it's incomprehensible. Why create and invent pain, hunger, and so many other terrible feelings? It makes no sense for a "good" God... and the animals that in their natural habitat are forced to kill each other to eat, when we see those documentaries on Netflix it's heartbreaking, the animal that is killing takes a long time to finish, the slaughtered creature suffers in agony until it dies, when pieces aren't taken from it while it's still alive, and that must hurt a lot... why would a good God create a world like that? Before, I was afraid of killing myself and going to hell and rotting there, today I believe that God doesn't exist and was just an invention that ancient humans invented to appease other terrible humans, to restrain entire nations through fear... yes, if you are not good you will not go to heaven. My life will be without guilt, without fear of a God who will punish me for it, it will simply all end and that's it... that's what I believe.

I leave all my respect for those who have faith... it was just a moment I had on the subject that I felt like sharing!!

No. At least nothing within the abrahamic religions