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Bandzbandz

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It would take long time to get used to it. Once I talked too much to a doctor, and he sent me to hospitalized for 3 days. Which significantly reduced my trust to doctors, and my mental stage. After that I'm afraid to share even information even enough for treatment to and doc
I completely understand.
It's hard to speak to anybody. Parents, obviously not. Friends, they get tired of hearing things (rightly so). Partners get tired of hearing things as well. So it's hard to know who to turn to. I turned to this website to be honest and I'm stagnant, thankfully, and not receding.
 
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I completely understand.
It's hard to speak to anybody. Parents, obviously not. Friends, they get tired of hearing things (rightly so). Partners get tired of hearing things as well. So it's hard to know who to turn to. I turned to this website to be honest and I'm stagnant, thankfully, and not receding.
I complete agree. Now I think only people who are facing the same problem as us could truly understand this, I mean understand what it feels like to going through.
Btw my parents reacts way worse, I think they also have some degree of depression and borderline personality disorder
 
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Bandzbandz

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I complete agree. Now I think only people who are facing the same problem as us could truly understand this, I mean understand what it feels like to going through.
Btw my parents reacts way worse, I think they also have some degree of depression and borderline personality disorder
I dont think parents are great when it comes to such matters. Parents are quite selfish in nature. I have heard everything from "you should be grateful for what you have" to "if you don't stop with the attitude something bad is going to happen to you". We are better off keeping it away from them and letting them live their own lives.
 
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kolski

ᴡᴇ ᴀʀᴇ ᴍᴏɴsᴛᴇʀs
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Ahaha yes
 
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Bandzbandz

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The worst part is... When I was younger, I often contemplated suicide to hurt people around me or to teach people a lesson. I sometimes think that still holds true. Sometimes I think that my death is the miracle that everybody needs to snap out of whatever stupid stuff that is consuming them and just start focusing on loving people around them more. If I honestly and truly loved myself enough I don't think I would still be here.
 
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I dont think parents are great when it comes to such matters. Parents are quite selfish in nature. I have heard everything from "you should be grateful for what you have" to "if you don't stop with the attitude something bad is going to happen to you". We are better off keeping it away from them and letting them live their own lives.
I personally think some of the parents do care and (attempt) to help, some really don't.
But guess what? The parents who cares, or have the ability to care, are not our parents. And their kids are pretty mentally healty, and didn't even know this forum exists.
A very big factor why we been suffering from mental problem for our lives, is because we have parents who are uncaring/selfish/lack of emotion/etc...
The worst part is... When I was younger, I often contemplated suicide to hurt people around me or to teach people a lesson. I sometimes think that still holds true. Sometimes I think that my death is the miracle that everybody needs to snap out of whatever stupid stuff that is consuming them and just start focusing on loving people around them more.
I sometimes feel this way too. Sometimes also feel like people around me are trying to keep me alive to "satisfy their emotion needs" rather than really caring about me. Just like people in slaughter house cut the nail and beak off hens, so that can't attack each other or themselves. Just because they can get meat from them one day.
 
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I personally think some of the parents do care and (attempt) to help, some really don't.
But guess what? The parents who cares, or have the ability to care, are not our parents. And their kids are pretty mentally healty, and didn't even know this forum exists.
A very big factor why we been suffering from mental problem for our lives, is because we have parents who are uncaring/selfish/lack of emotion/etc...
To be honest with you, there is a large history of neurological disorders in my family.
I have two younger siblings, one of which is autistic. My other sibling and I are completely "normal".
However, we did grow up with an emotionally and physically abusive dad and an overly attached mother. My mom is great, my dad not so much. I think my mom was just worn out with my autistic sibling that she expected me to be sound, for a lack of better words.
I think I have a variety of issues, one of which a huge one is anxiety. Depression arrives and departs in seasons, but anxiety has always been there for me. I have a condition (trichotillomania) where I pull at my hair constantly due to bad anxiety and panic attacks. I have no eyebrows as a result and when I woke up one morning and saw that I had none left I was shocked at the effect of anxiety. It hits deeper when that anxiety is amplified and translated into visible effects.
I personally think some of the parents do care and (attempt) to help, some really don't.
But guess what? The parents who cares, or have the ability to care, are not our parents. And their kids are pretty mentally healty, and didn't even know this forum exists.
A very big factor why we been suffering from mental problem for our lives, is because we have parents who are uncaring/selfish/lack of emotion/etc...

I sometimes feel this way too. Sometimes also feel like people around me are trying to keep me alive to "satisfy their emotion needs" rather than really caring about me. Just like people in slaughter house cut the nail and beak off hens, so that can't attack each other or themselves. Just because they can get meat from them one day.
I completely agree with the second point. I feel that that is the case with everybody except my fiance. It's tough out here fam.
 
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Feb 7, 2019
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I have depression secondary to chronic headaches and cognitive problems. I was anxious and sad before that stuff started but I never would have killed myself back then.
 
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Or do some of us just want to die due to a lack of meaning and direction in life, and perhaps, boredom?
You missed physical disability and severe physical pain. Anyone who would prefer death over living due to lack of meaning/boredom might want to try a volunteer position. There is a huge need out there.
To be honest with you, there is a large history of neurological disorders in my family.
I have two younger siblings, one of which is autistic. My other sibling and I are completely "normal".
However, we did grow up with an emotionally and physically abusive dad and an overly attached mother. My mom is great, my dad not so much. I think my mom was just worn out with my autistic sibling that she expected me to be sound, for a lack of better words.
I think I have a variety of issues, one of which a huge one is anxiety. Depression arrives and departs in seasons, but anxiety has always been there for me. I have a condition (trichotillomania) where I pull at my hair constantly due to bad anxiety and panic attacks. I have no eyebrows as a result and when I woke up one morning and saw that I had none left I was shocked at the effect of anxiety. It hits deeper when that anxiety is amplified and translated into visible effects.

I completely agree with the second point. I feel that that is the case with everybody except my fiance. It's tough out here fam.
Do you know if this girl was tested or saw a doctor? Perhaps she is a great liar. I find it difficult to accept a completely mentally healthy and well adjusted individual would just off themselves since we are wired to keep ourselves alive
I am both mentally healthy and pretty well adjusted, but I am still going. Physical disabilities and the physical pain they produce has brought me to this conclusion, and there are many of us.
 
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Faraway1990

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Jun 2, 2019
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I just have seriously Sick of society's bullshit and I made lots of mistakes despite trying my bestand I don't wanna stick around anymore problems. CTB in less than a couple weeks
 
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A girl doesn't need anyone who doesn't need her
Jun 5, 2019
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I understand. For me, most of the trauma I have won't be recovered I think. Been having PTSD since 20 years ago
Yes, that's when I truly despaired, when I realised the ptsd was never ever going to be cured - that it was forever.
 
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I would say it would take way more than 16 years, or prob never... Damage done in childhood would be nearly impossible to be reversed.
You are so right; damage done in childhood is hard to shake off.
 
faust

faust

lost among the stars
Jan 26, 2020
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Both mental health problems and everlasting existential crisis. At least one of them always present. They do not leave me alone...
 
Despondent

Despondent

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Dec 20, 2019
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I don't think one would need to have a mental health issue of some sort to want to take their own life. It can happen to anyone and everyone.
 
dunkelheit

dunkelheit

Null | Void
Oct 26, 2018
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I've had mental health problems for over a decade. I don't really deny any of it but myself and many others should not be forced to exist for the sake of draining economic stimulus.
 
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Dec 27, 2019
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"PTSD like i came from Iraq"

 
Green Destiny

Green Destiny

Life isn't worth the trouble.
Nov 16, 2019
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I haven't been officially diagnosed but I'm pretty sure I've got a few mental issues. Along with having no direction or meaning in my life.
 
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Dec 21, 2019
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I have both physical and mental heal issues
 
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ComingClose

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Jan 19, 2020
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I'm 55, never been diagnosed or even suspected of having mental health issues. I simply believe that, after raising a big family and finding myself pretty much abandoned by them, I've served my purpose in life and extending it much further would just be delaying the inevitable.
 
ClaireBear31

ClaireBear31

Just... why?
Jan 18, 2020
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I don't. I do have serious physical health issues though.
 
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Polly

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Jan 15, 2020
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Financial issues that prevent quality of life.
 
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a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
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Sure, psychiatrists would give me a "diagnosis" easily but I have decided, after many years of amateur study of and engagement with psychology/ psychological thought, to reject the notion of individual psychopathology (for the most part). Instead, I see our suffering as a consequence of the social structures we live in and the place we were assigned in it, the things that happened to us in the past and the nature of life itself.

Whenever I catch myself slipping back to psychologizing myself, I remind myself of this: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAKegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1_j6d6ReRKGrEQwd25F_u2
 
Banquo501

Banquo501

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Feb 6, 2020
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This is all a bit chicken and the egg really isn't it. I've never been happy with the way society functions, even less so since a chronic illness has limited my life greatly. Do I feel this way because I'm depressed or am I depressed because of how I feel about society and my life.

I've tried medication before and it's never really made a difference to how I feel about things.
 
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a.n.kirillov

velle non discitur
Nov 17, 2019
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Do I feel this way because I'm depressed

See this is where we make an error. We treat our negative affect as if it were a substantive entity and call it depression, and then we say "I feel bad because of my depression"; but 'depression' isn't an entity. 'Depression' = feeling bad.

So rewording what you just said would amount to: "Am I feeling bad because I'm feeling bad or am I feeling bad because I'm feeling bad because of society".

The real question, I propose, is: "Am I feeling bad because there is something inherently wrong with me or am I feeling bad because there are exterior, valid reasons for feeling bad (which I might be unable to articulate, maybe even because they are purposefully being mystified and hidden from me, while I am encouraged to think of myself as damaged/ dysfunctional)?"

Sorry for my erratic writing today I'm tired.

Edit: Especially in the case of depression, describing it in a positive sense, i.e. as an entity that exists, is dangerous because then we oversee the fact that what we call 'depression' is often moreso a lack of some thing or another. So it 'is' more a lack of, for example, belonging, acceptance, engagement, love, acknowledgement, etc...
 
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k75

L'appel du Vide
Jun 27, 2019
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I've been diagnosed with PTSD, major depression, and generalized anxiety disorder. I also suffer from complicated grief, which we're only just starting to delve into.

My mental health issues are only half of why I am suicidal, but I think the strongest and most persistent urges I feel come from that. Medication helps.
 
Banquo501

Banquo501

Experienced
Feb 6, 2020
259
See this is where we make an error. We treat our negative affect as if it were a substantive entity and call it depression, and then we say "I feel bad because of my depression"; but 'depression' isn't an entity. 'Depression' = feeling bad.

So rewording what you just said would amount to: "Am I feeling bad because I'm feeling bad or am I feeling bad because I'm feeling bad because of society".

The real question, I propose, is: "Am I feeling bad because there is something inherently wrong with me or am I feeling bad because there are exterior, valid reasons for feeling bad (which I might be unable to articulate, maybe even because they are purposefully being mystified and hidden from me, while I am encouraged to think of myself as damaged/ dysfunctional)?"

Sorry for my erratic writing today I'm tired.

Edit: Especially in the case of depression, describing it in a positive sense, i.e. as an entity that exists, is dangerous because then we oversee the fact that what we call 'depression' is often moreso a lack of some thing or another. So it 'is' more a lack of, for example, belonging, acceptance, engagement, love, acknowledgement, etc...

I get what you're saying, and it does make sense, but depression isn't just "feeling bad" it's much more than that.
 
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HadEnough1974

I try to be funny...
Jan 14, 2020
684
Or do some of us just want to die due to a lack of meaning and direction in life, and perhaps, boredom?
I have a dysfunctional family issue causing mental health issues, which I think many can relate to.
 
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Moonomyth

Student
Feb 6, 2020
195
I have material circumstances which aren't going to get better, will get worse precisely because they won't get better, and for which there is little societal support because of the prevailing belief that they are largely my own fault (they are, I made bad financial choices).

The mental health system isn't really well-equipped to handle this (although they can certainly make it worse), so that "deaths of despair" fad is looking pretty good.
 
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Deformationalplagio

Born deformed
Dec 28, 2019
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Only physical issue i guess if i wasnt deformed my life would be a party lol.
 

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