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Do you think life has purpose or meaning?

Why were we born or even continue living?

Do you thing nothing matters in the end?

And so on

Have you pondered about the meaning and matter of life?

Personally, I agree with Camus, nothing really matters so I do not give shii about stuff that much and just live to find happiness each day, but when I encountered any inconvenience whether big or small, the suicidal thought always pop up in my head because my think

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To me None of the things that they constantly tell us are so good, important, worth it , must do , must have , matter .... None of these things really do matter. Nothing matters

What that we could do this year will matter in 150 years? Nothing.what about in 500 years? In 10,000 years. In a trillion years? Nothing

The only things that are significant to me are me avoiding constant excruciating unbearable pain extreme suffering extreme torture. And then me avoiding any pain , suffering , problems, diseases . My suicide asap is important to me

They can say life and living are important or needed

But why do I have to live another minute? I don't have to there is no reason
 
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Meaning, purpose, and value are constructs of human consciousness. There's no evidence that the universe "cares" about justice, beauty, happiness, or suffering. We invent meaning to navigate life, but fundamentally, these are subjective and impermanent.

Nothing truly matter when all life on this planet could be wiped out at any time
 
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Do you make a sound if nobody hears you?
 
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meaning is created by you. there is no over arching meaning to life.

i'd guess that all the users on this site are just at a point where they dont see their lives being capable of having any meaning. which causes suffering.
 
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I am into nihilism, yes. It honestly is the only thing that still makes sense to me on this fucked up planet.
 
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Not a huge fan but as opposed to the Coens' chuckles about the schoolyard version ("they're nihilists, Donny!"), what Nietzsche was actually on about was a sort of Eastern C_____ian gnosticism, that one has the option to do the right thing for various reasons even though the message of those "religions" proper is technically just keep fucking up it'll bring on Apocalypse 'and maybe that's what G-d wants for every foreign invader fucking up Israel.'

This is how that tradition generally in most flavors manages to preserve some stuff like 'maybe murder actually is bad' despite believing it's instantly forgiven.

Anyway, that's one a lot of the European 'great thinkers' have reckoned with, while Torah is just kind of explicit but also may make adultery a capital offense (rabbis sorted this out by requiring witnesses, making G-d a bit kind on it), but if you're gonna say you like nihilism, at least check out the primary source, as is less even the inspired frenchmens' "nothing matters what now" than the gnostic "G-d doesn't obviously immediately intervene on all wrongs in the world, what now?" that Nietzsche was probing.

I only really had the opportunity to give it a skim, but as with Marxism, getting past the schoolyard version to the substance will at least give the actual meaning of the concept.

Nietzsche's references also go into the historical thing about how Rome and the 'early church' as were the same thing mashed Jewish and Persian dualist traditions together to get the church dualism story where G-d completely gave the 'bad guy' agency instead of it being a tulpa sort of thing G-d was playing with. As wacky as Judaism is it's kind of relaxing (just worry about G-d) compared to the church worldview that G-d stuck everyone with a sort of dualism until the world ends.
 
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The value or worth of life is a personal feeling I think. People who find great worth in composing music, caring for others, researching an ancient culture aren't wrong. Is it 'wrong' to enjoy strawberry ice cream? No- it's about preference. We surely value things we like. It's not wrong to like things. There again, someone is within their rights to say they hate everything and find everything meaningless and worthless. I don't think there's a consensus over it- no right or wrong answer. It's more what a person feels and believes.

Overall though, no- I don't believe there's a grand plan to this. I think we came about via and are subject to a bunch of natural laws until we die.
 
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Not something I think about to much when I'm suicidal.
 
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The value or worth of life is a personal feeling I think. People who find great worth in composing music, caring for others, researching an ancient culture aren't wrong. Is it 'wrong' to enjoy strawberry ice cream? No- it's about preference. We surely value things we like. It's not wrong to like things. There again, someone is within their rights to say they hate everything and find everything meaningless and worthless. I don't think there's a consensus over it- no right or wrong answer. It's more what a person feels and believes.

Overall though, no- I don't believe there's a grand plan to this. I think we came about via and are subject to a bunch of natural laws until we die.
I've always been kind of jealous of people for whom it is enough to care for others or work in research or whatever, and they feel so fulfilled etc. It kills me that there seems to be no objective meaning to life. To me, that's an equivalent of buying a laptop and using it as a sushi plate and people have no idea that the manufacturer intended for it to be this amazing machine that is not meant to be used as a plate at all. Sure, it can work great as a sushi plate but there's so much more to it.

This world in general applies reductionist principles to everything it seems. That's the default. And in isolation all that subjective meaning that people find works for them just fine.

I am a big picture kind of person though, so reductionism doesn't work for me. I am looking at the world and at my life as a whole. And yeah certain things make me happy, or at least they used to. But if I am happy making music, I am not able to do that 24/7, because guess what? There are so much other shit to deal with, so many problems and suffering. So in general, I am not able to be happy, except for a few hours where I do get to do what makes me happy.

And truly, I am jealous of people who seem to be totally unphased by all the problems and what not that interferes with their "purpose". I wish I could be that kind of a person but I am not. Therefore I am here and I will always be here because at least I now know exactly why I am so miserable.
 
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I've always been kind of jealous of people for whom it is enough to care for others or work in research or whatever, and they feel so fulfilled etc. It kills me that there seems to be no objective meaning to life. To me, that's an equivalent of buying a laptop and using it as a sushi plate and people have no idea that the manufacturer intended for it to be this amazing machine that is not meant to be used as a plate at all. Sure, it can work great as a sushi plate but there's so much more to it.

This world in general applies reductionist principles to everything it seems. That's the default. And in isolation all that subjective meaning that people find works for them just fine.

I am a big picture kind of person though, so reductionism doesn't work for me. I am looking at the world and at my life as a whole. And yeah certain things make me happy, or at least they used to. But if I am happy making music, I am not able to do that 24/7, because guess what? There are so much other shit to deal with, so many problems and suffering. So in general, I am not able to be happy, except for a few hours where I do get to do what makes me happy.

And truly, I am jealous of people who seem to be totally unphased by all the problems and what not that interferes with their "purpose". I wish I could be that kind of a person but I am not. Therefore I am here and I will always be here because at least I now know exactly why I am so miserable.

I do understand your feelings. I certainly used to feel envious of people who seemed able to enjoy life, even see it as precious despite encountering hardships.

I'm not so sure about the whole 'meaning' and 'purpose' perspective though. To refer to your example, I suppose our 'manufacturers' are our parents and a God- if you happen to believe in one. Would it necessarily have made you happy if your parents had told you what your purpose was? We want you to become a doctor- we don't care if you enjoy composing music. Similarly, would people actually be happier with more rules? Religious or otherwise? What if we don't want to follow our fixed purpose or rules? Don't we also want the freedom to pursue the things we happen to enjoy?

I suppose you could argue that neither a sushi plate or a laptop has consciousness. So- the laptop wouldn't care what it was used for. The manufacturer already has their money so, I doubt they care much either. It's the human who's missing out but then, who knows? Maybe sushi is better than social media.

'Wasted potential' is a complicated issue I think- especially with humans. Are we miserable because we know we had/ have more potential that we're not using- in which case- why not? Or, is it because other people put pressure on us to live up to our potential?

With a human though- we're conscious. We know what are bodies and minds are capable of- to a greater extent. Lifting weights builds muscle. Learning a language means you'll get better at communicating in it. Learning and practicing anything will likely increase your skill and knowedge in it. So- it's in part up to us what we want to pursue and, how far.

Where I certainly agree though is limitations. We are usually stuck with them. That's where I'm similar to you really. Life is a whole bunch of compromises and juggling obligations we really don't want and, I don't feel satisfied with that either.

The problem I'm struggling with is that my original purpose in life- that kept me going all this time- pursuing a creative career, is also feeling in part like everything else. Something I have to do to earn money to support a life I don't want. It doesn't actually make sense to keep living. Asides from trying to prevent loved ones getting hurt in reaction to my suicide.
 
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I do understand your feelings. I certainly used to feel envious of people who seemed able to enjoy life, even see it as precious despite encountering hardships.

I'm not so sure about the whole 'meaning' and 'purpose' perspective though. To refer to your example, I suppose our 'manufacturers' are our parents and a God- if you happen to believe in one. Would it necessarily have made you happy if your parents had told you what your purpose was? We want you to become a doctor- we don't care if you enjoy composing music. Similarly, would people actually be happier with more rules? Religious or otherwise? What if we don't want to follow our fixed purpose or rules? Don't we also want the freedom to pursue the things we happen to enjoy?

I suppose you could argue that neither a sushi plate or a laptop has consciousness. So- the laptop wouldn't care what it was used for. The manufacturer already has their money so, I doubt they care much either. It's the human who's missing out but then, who knows? Maybe sushi is better than social media.

'Wasted potential' is a complicated issue I think- especially with humans. Are we miserable because we know we had/ have more potential that we're not using- in which case- why not? Or, is it because other people put pressure on us to live up to our potential?

With a human though- we're conscious. We know what are bodies and minds are capable of- to a greater extent. Lifting weights builds muscle. Learning a language means you'll get better at communicating in it. Learning and practicing anything will likely increase your skill and knowedge in it. So- it's in part up to us what we want to pursue and, how far.

Where I certainly agree though is limitations. We are usually stuck with them. That's where I'm similar to you really. Life is a whole bunch of compromises and juggling obligations we really don't want and, I don't feel satisfied with that either.

The problem I'm struggling with is that my original purpose in life- that kept me going all this time- pursuing a creative career, is also feeling in part like everything else. Something I have to do to earn money to support a life I don't want. It doesn't actually make sense to keep living. Asides from trying to prevent loved ones getting hurt in reaction to my suicide.
By purpose I mean something that is bigger than this planet, and not just a career choice etc. It used to help being religious, the religion I used to follow told me the purpose of humans being in this world is to make this world a better place for example. Unfortunately religion no longer makes sense to me. And unfortunately, part of why I am here is that the society doesn't makes no sense to me either, it never has. At this point I tend to think that humans are simply a mistake in the evolution process, we were never meant to exist, and yet something went wrong and here we are. Our bodies are really poorly designed for it to be purposeful.

But yeah it sucks that we have to be earning money to support a life we don't want. The whole system is messed up, and worst of all is that we are deprived of the choice to exit if we decide to. I have basically turned into a robot, I no longer know why I even put food in my mouth and chew, it is just something I have been programmed to do and I do everything automatically it seems, without thinking. I am completely numb and have been just existing and not living. A table has more purpose than I do.
 
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By purpose I mean something that is bigger than this planet, and not just a career choice etc. It used to help being religious, the religion I used to follow told me the purpose of humans being in this world is to make this world a better place for example. Unfortunately religion no longer makes sense to me. And unfortunately, part of why I am here is that the society doesn't makes no sense to me either, it never has. At this point I tend to think that humans are simply a mistake in the evolution process, we were never meant to exist, and yet something went wrong and here we are. Our bodies are really poorly designed for it to be purposeful.

But yeah it sucks that we have to be earning money to support a life we don't want. The whole system is messed up, and worst of all is that we are deprived of the choice to exit if we decide to. I have basically turned into a robot, I no longer know why I even put food in my mouth and chew, it is just something I have been programmed to do and I do everything automatically it seems, without thinking. I am completely numb and have been just existing and not living. A table has more purpose than I do.

I'm really on the fence about religion. I'd prefer to be a certain atheist if I'm honest. I can't see how the creator of this world could be 'good'.

I suppose the difficulty I have with religion is actually based around purpose in a way. I agree- being a 'good' person seems like a decent thing to aspire to. But- this world isn't even designed to be that 'nice' at its core. The simple fact that we are designed to kill and consume other sentient beings to survive already suggests something is rotten in the design (to me.)

Ignoring that though. Lets's say adhering absoltely to all the religious laws is the way to go and, the reward is heaven. Great. Then what though? What could be our purpose there? To just continue to live happily, worship and sing to God? It just seems like an anti-climax. If our earth time is about training or assessment- which seems to be the purpose in a lot of religions. Preperation for an afterlife... of what? If the afterlife is eternity but our earthly lives are likey far less than 100 years- surely the emphasis is on the eternity bit? To do what though? Play a harp? I just don't get it.

If it's simply to adore and worship a being then- that sounds worryingly like a cult.
 
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I'm really on the fence about religion. I'd prefer to be a certain atheist if I'm honest. I can't see how the creator of this world could be 'good'.

I suppose the difficulty I have with religion is actually based around purpose in a way. I agree- being a 'good' person seems like a decent thing to aspire to. But- this world isn't even designed to be that 'nice' at its core. The simple fact that we are designed to kill and consume other sentient beings to survive already suggests something is rotten in the design (to me.)

Ignoring that though. Lets's say adhering absoltely to all the religious laws is the way to go and, the reward is heaven. Great. Then what though? What could be our purpose there? To just continue to live happily, worship and sing to God? It just seems like an anti-climax. If our earth time is about training or assessment- which seems to be the purpose in a lot of religions. Preperation for an afterlife... of what? If the afterlife is eternity but our earthly lives are likey far less than 100 years- surely the emphasis is on the eternity bit? To do what though? Play a harp? I just don't get it.

If it's simply to adore and worship a being then- that sounds worryingly like a cult.
Don't get me started on religion XD. I could write a whole book series on what is wrong with it, not matter what kind XD.
But you know what, it never made sense to me how religious people still find the will in themselves to rot on this earth. In my religious days, the only thing that would get me through my day was the thought of one day going to "heaven". I was always disgusted by life on Earth, and I was shocked to find out that most religious people wanted to stay here and didn't want to die lol. I always wanted to die so I could go to heaven sooner XD.

I truly hope there is nothing on the other side. I just hope that you just close your eyes and then there is nothing. Any thought of any afterlife - good or bad or neutral or whatever - is absolutely unsettling to me. I just want to disappear like I never existed. There used to be a time when I used to think that if I had a "better" life, I'd be happy to keep on living. But I got to a point where I just do not wish to exist in any state, shape or form.
 
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"This is the great lesson the depressive learns: Nothing in the world is inherently compelling. Whatever may be really "out there" cannot project itself as an affective experience. It is all a vacuous affair with only a chemical prestige. Nothing is either good or bad, desirable or undesirable, or anything else except that it is made so by laboratories inside us producing the emotions on which we live. And to live on our emotions is to live arbitrarily, inaccurately—imparting meaning to what has none of its own. Yet what other way is there to live? Without the ever-clanking machinery of emotion, everything would come to a standstill. There would be nothing to do, nowhere to go, nothing to be, and no one to know. The alternatives are clear: to live falsely as pawns of affect, or to live factually as depressives, or as individuals who know what is known to the depressive. How advantageous that we are not coerced into choosing one or the other, neither choice being excellent. One look at human existence is proof enough that our species will not be released from the stranglehold of emotionalism that anchors it to hallucinations. That may be no way to live, but to opt for depression would be to opt out of existence as we consciously know it."

― Thomas Ligotti, The Conspiracy Against the Human Race
 
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Don't get me started on religion XD. I could write a whole book series on what is wrong with it, not matter what kind XD.
But you know what, it never made sense to me how religious people still find the will in themselves to rot on this earth. In my religious days, the only thing that would get me through my day was the thought of one day going to "heaven". I was always disgusted by life on Earth, and I was shocked to find out that most religious people wanted to stay here and didn't want to die lol. I always wanted to die so I could go to heaven sooner XD.

I truly hope there is nothing on the other side. I just hope that you just close your eyes and then there is nothing. Any thought of any afterlife - good or bad or neutral or whatever - is absolutely unsettling to me. I just want to disappear like I never existed. There used to be a time when I used to think that if I had a "better" life, I'd be happy to keep on living. But I got to a point where I just do not wish to exist in any state, shape or form.

Some actually find it pious to endure suffering. I actually worked with a lovely lady who said, when she was young, she hoped her life would be difficult! That it seemed more religious that way. Lol. I suppose they use it as an opportunity to show their faith. That they're willing to endure all that. I suppose with the hope that God will give them a bigger reward.

I just find the whole thing weirldy sado-masochistic. It's monstrous to push people through a whole bunch of horrific tests to see how well they cope. It's actually narcissistic in a way. How mean can I be to you and yet, you'll still say you love me? What kind of omnipotent being even needs to test people at all? Don't they already know the outcome? If they don't then, how are they omnipotent? Yeah, I have a multitude of problems with religion too...
 
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I'm in-between, all I know if there is something spiritual, it's not religious in nature
 
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Don't get me started on religion XD. I could write a whole book series on what is wrong with it, not matter what kind XD.
But you know what, it never made sense to me how religious people still find the will in themselves to rot on this earth. In my religious days, the only thing that would get me through my day was the thought of one day going to "heaven". I was always disgusted by life on Earth, and I was shocked to find out that most religious people wanted to stay here and didn't want to die lol. I always wanted to die so I could go to heaven sooner XD.

I truly hope there is nothing on the other side. I just hope that you just close your eyes and then there is nothing. Any thought of any afterlife - good or bad or neutral or whatever - is absolutely unsettling to me. I just want to disappear like I never existed. There used to be a time when I used to think that if I had a "better" life, I'd be happy to keep on living. But I got to a point where I just do not wish to exist in any state, shape or form.
I dont understand that about religious people either like if Heaven is so great wtf you want to be on Earth?
 

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