Do you think the guy behind IC and EM actually cares about his customers? I’ve heard he is pro-choice and pro-euthanasia

[Tricondyla ledouxi]

but I'm starting to think it's just about the money to him.

 

[lionetta12]

but I'm starting to think it's just about the money to him.

Of course it's about the money, that's why he charge an insane amount for SN. He knows that people primarely uses his products for CTB. But he also probably understand the risk of running businesses like that too, which can also be why the prices are higher for SN on IC than on other platforms.

 

[GasMonkey]

Back in the day the EM website had a section where he explained his motives.

There he explained that his mother spent 7 years suffering in a nursing home, she had some weird disease that made her suffer a lot and could barely move, kind of paralyzed (I don't remember exactly).

 

[Tricondyla ledouxi]

Back in the day in the EM website there was a section where he explained his motives.
There he explained that his mother spent 7 years suffering in a nursing home, she had some weird disease that made her suffer a lot and couldn't barely move, kind of paralyzed (I don't remember exactly).

That's interesting to hear, anything else u remember?

 

[hungry_ghost]

What difference does it make?

 

[jodes2]

Nah I doubt he cares much. Same as the guy who runs PPeH it's just a chance to collect money from desperate people throwing everything away

 

[ThisIsLife]

Do undertakers care about people ?

Wouldn't you be pissed if EM didn't exist and that you couldn't get stuff for gas method or SN ?

SN is 59$ and it's 2 times the super lethal dose. That's one of the cheapest ways to CTB.

I agree that the gas stuff is very expensive (regulators, kits etc), but it seems they're good products.

Now the guy sells this stuff with risk, which is to consider. He can get shut down pretty quickly if lawmakers or pro-lifers start a war against suicidal people; which can happen at any time given the context.

 

[GasMonkey]

I'm really impressed that the EM site has flied under the pro-lifer radar for such a long time, I haven't seen a single pro-lifer reporting about it anywere. That's probably due to how professional the web looks and the fact that it's difficult to understand what's the real purpose of the gear sold on it, for the untrained eye it just looks like a regular web that sells regulators and respiratory equipment.

 

[Shadowlord900]

People need money to live, including the EM & IC guy. If other people are willing to pay for the tools and service that the EM & IC guy provides because they find it valuable, then good for him.

I have no problems with what the EM & IC guy is doing. I do have a bigger problem with Exit International, the PPH and all other groups related to them. While the PPH does provide some valuable information when leaked, all that, as well as the various euthanasia services ran by Exit are far more heavily gatekeeped.

I understand Exit don't want to risk breaking any laws or getting into trouble with other countries, but not only do I think their gatekeeping is a little excessive, whatever services from them that you're lucky enough to access (either due to being very old or having a terminal condition) are far more expensive. I'd say Exit is more greedy and even less caring than the EM & IC guy.

 

[tiredangelgirl]

People need money to live, including the EM & IC guy. If other people are willing to pay for the tools and service that the EM & IC guy provides because they find it valuable, then good for him.

I have no problems with what the EM & IC guy is doing. I do have a bigger problem with Exit International, the PPH and all other groups related to them. While the PPH does provide some valuable information when leaked, all that, as well as the various euthanasia services ran by Exit are far more heavily gatekeeped.

I understand Exit don't want to risk breaking any laws or getting into trouble with other countries, but not only do I think their gatekeeping is a little excessive, whatever services from them that you're lucky enough to access (either due to being very old or having a terminal condition) are far more expensive. I'd say Exit is more greedy and even less caring than the EM & IC guy.

I agree with this strongly

 

[umjammertranner]

The fact that IC charges an extra $10 for discreet packaging should tell you everything you need to know.

Honestly I don't care if this whole website is just a scheme to funnel people onto IC or some shit as long as I get my SN

 

[Venus13]

He's doing us who don't have access to euthanasia or assisted suicide a service. I have no complaints.

 

[HerculePoirot]

I believe he's pro money.

 

[TAW122]

I don't really know for sure, but if he continues to be a reliable source for us seeking a somewhat more peaceful and reliable means to escape this shitty existence, then I don't really have any issue with it. It is also not my place to determine or pry into his motives. I do believe that as long as SN is accessible and affordable (to the average person), then that's good.