Die from giving birth

[DyingSoul]

Is't perfectly excuse that i could die from giving birth? Wouldn't that be noticeable to cover my Exit plan?
I want my child to remain alive but for myself, my life is doesn't even matter to me anymore.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

no

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Why would you want your child to stay alive? So he/she have to work hard for the rest of his/her life?

Also this is of course subjective but I think parents who commit suicide is selfish I don´t think suicide in itself is a selfish act but if a person choose to have children then from that moment you arent allowed to ctb at least imo.

 

[Threads]

If you bring a child into this world and you abandon it, there is a special place in hell for you.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I really try to restrain myself here because I can imagine I would get ban or ban warning if I attack you too much but I really would like to understand how your mind works if you can justify you wanting to die so much because of your problems but want to bring another person into this world that might end up wanting to ctb just like you. So to sum it up your method to ctb is death by birth i.e. bringing another person into this world to slave away his/her life so you can exit that is really selfish.

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

leaving the moral question aside - its technically just way to insecure.

forget about it

 

[Wantingpeace]

I don't think anyone should say selfish to ctb if have kids..No one can know another's suffering.

But this idea..No this is not a method and is different having children first then bring unable to endure suffering but not bringing a child into world if you know your likely to ctb

 

[scales]

In order for this to work you would have to give birth without support outside of a hospital or birthing center. If you intend to die in the process with no one there to help you, your child will die after you and you will end up committing murder in the process.

If you attempt this in a hospital or around people your chances of death are low, the method isn't lethal and will be incredibly painful.

In other words, this is not a good method.

 

[worldexploder]

Die from giving birth? Are you pregnant? Modern humans have been giving birth alone without medical aid for 100,000s of years. I'm sure the death rate was a lot higher before modern medicine but you can't except to die from it.

What if the baby survived? Or worse survived with a severe handicap due to all this. Another life to be raised without a mother. My suggestion is abortion followed by CTB. I personally don't think it's ethical to use a fetus to accomplish your goals.

 

[hunter_lewis]

Wow, some people here are really judgemental.
@DyingSoul That is not realistic. Firstly, you will be in so much pain that you will start begging for the hospital, there are all kinds of complications that can not only impact you but your baby too. Imagine it is born a cripple with a cord around it's neck. Then what? Also, you don't really die that quickly from labor itself but from infections which can happen afterwards which are not that commonplace in the modern day. Even in Africa, the chance of dying is only 1-5% per birth. So 95% chance you will live

 

[Lovemykids]

Moment you see the face of child after birth ctb thoughts in your mind will go in drain

 

[DyingSoul]

If you bring a child into this world and you abandon it, there is a special place in hell for you.

I'm already in the hell here in this world.

 

[DyingSoul]

I really try to restrain myself here because I can imagine I would get ban or ban warning if I attack you too much but I really would like to understand how your mind works if you can justify you wanting to die so much because of your problems but want to bring another person into this world that might end up wanting to ctb just like you. So to sum it up your method to ctb is death by birth i.e. bringing another person into this world to slave away his/her life so you can exit that is really selfish.

I'm planning to give the full custody to my sister and her fiance. So my baby would still live a decent life even without me.

 

[worldexploder]

I'm planning to give the full custody to my sister and her fiance. So my baby would still live a decent life even without me.

First of all, how do you know the bsby will have a decent life? Secondly, why not abort the baby since you know you won't be around to mother it? Thirdly, if you are going to try to fuck up your pregnancy you could leave the baby in bad shape.

 

[DyingSoul]

First of all, how do you know the bsby will have a decent life? Secondly, why not abort the baby since you know you won't be around to mother it? Thirdly, if you are going to try to fuck up your pregnancy you could leave the baby in bad shape.

They love my unborn child. I know they wouldn't abondon him/her. They will raise my baby as their own child.

 

[scales]

They love my unborn child. I know they wouldn't abondon him/her. They will raise my baby as their own child.

This is reasonable. You found good parents for the child, adopting the child is absolutely critical.

Now if you want to die using this method you have to know the adopted parents are going to want to be there to take the child after birth. This is good for the child but not for you if your goal is to ctb.

Any medical professional or human is going to do everything in their power to save you when they see you in pain or dying. If you want to die after the child's birth you can possibly deny any medication meant to stop infections etc. and deny as much medical support as possible. That would give you the best chances for death, but the pain may make that difficult to do in the moment.

My suggestion is to ctb safely after the birth and adoption of the child.

 

[DyingSoul]

Wow, some people here are really judgemental.
@DyingSoul That is not realistic. Firstly, you will be in so much pain that you will start begging for the hospital, there are all kinds of complications that can not only impact you but your baby too. Imagine it is born a cripple with a cord around it's neck. Then what? Also, you don't really die that quickly from labor itself but from infections which can happen afterwards which are not that commonplace in the modern day. Even in Africa, the chance of dying is only 1-5% per birth. So 95% chance you will live

Maybe you were right. The chance of dying is so low. Specially if o give birth to hospital with right medical attention. Maybe getting infection after giving birth would be right method. And let myself untreated it.

 

[DyingSoul]

This is reasonable. You found good parents for the child, adopting the child is absolutely critical.

Now if you want to die using this method you have to know the adopted parents are going to want to be there to take the child after birth. This is good for the child but not for you if your goal is to ctb.

Any medical professional or human is going to do everything in their power to save you when they see you in pain or dying. If you want to die after the child's birth you can possibly deny any medication meant to stop infections etc. and deny as much medical support as possible. That would give you the best chances for death, but the pain may make that difficult to do in the moment.

My suggestion is to ctb safely after the birth and adoption of the child.

Thank you for your understanding. Im talking to my sister now to process the adoption once i gave birth.

 

[worldexploder]

In my opinion, creating life is basically creating need for the sake of need. The unborn cannot suffer, want, or need. I'm an antinatalist but it's not my job to tell people not to have kids.

This case just seems wrong to me. It's not like you're having the child because you want to be a mother. Why reproduce knowing you will CTB? Knowing the suffering that comes with life, do you really want to impose suffering on someone else?

Please rethink this. Like I said, abortion is really the only ethical choice I can see in this scenario.

 

[Aity4883]

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[Prime]

Die from giving birth? Are you pregnant? Modern humans have been giving birth alone without medical aid for 100,000s of years. I'm sure the death rate was a lot higher before modern medicine but you can't except to die from it.

What if the baby survived? Or worse survived with a severe handicap due to all this. Another life to be raised without a mother. My suggestion is abortion followed by CTB. I personally don't think it's ethical to use a fetus to accomplish your goals.

He is right

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I'm planning to give the full custody to my sister and her fiance. So my baby would still live a decent life even without me.

Still to put another life into this world to slave away his/her life is cruel especially when you want to commit suicide. Why do you want to ctb? Have you even considered that your child might want to ctb when he/she get older?

I just can´t get by how you would bring another human into this horrible existence and I hope you will answer me.

 

[jaemus12]

May I ask how are you going to guarantee your death while giving birth?

Also I personally think it will be very hard for your child to know that they are the cause of your death and carry that on with them for the rest of their life.

 

[Roph]

Putting aside the moral issues, I don't see this working.

 

[About_to_Go]

How far along are you in your pregnancy? Are you sure that you want to bring a baby into a world that makes you want to ctb?

 

[scales]

In my opinion, creating life is basically creating need for the sake of need. The unborn cannot suffer, want, or need. I'm an antinatalist but it's not my job to tell people not to have kids.

This case just seems wrong to me. It's not like you're having the child because you want to be a mother. Why reproduce knowing you will CTB? Knowing the suffering that comes with life, do you really want to impose suffering on someone else?

Please rethink this. Like I said, abortion is really the only ethical choice I can see in this scenario.

Why is it the only ethical choice? I think her choice to adopt her child to parents she knows are loving and wants them is very reasonable.

Not everyone plans for pregnancy as well.. she probably didn't plan on it and can't be blamed for that. Abortion is also a choice that should never be imposed on anyone, it is her body after all. If she wants to have the baby and give it up for adoption, it's her right.

 

[worldexploder]

Why is it the only ethical choice? I think her choice to adopt her child to parents she knows are loving and wants them is very reasonable.

Not everyone plans for pregnancy as well.. she probably didn't plan on it and can't be blamed for that. Abortion is also a choice that should never be imposed on anyone, it is her body after all. If she wants to have the baby and give it up for adoption, it's her right.

It's alittle different when you're rolling the dice with someone else's sentience like this. I never said abortion should be forced on her. I'm saying i think it is the only reasonable solution in this scenario. Especially if she wants to die during labor.

It's all about what outcome will produce the least amount of suffering. If she aborts the baby than CTB then less suffering would occur than under her current plan.

I would feel differently if she wanted to carry the child to term because she wants to be a mother. Yes I understand that the child will go to a good home but what sort of psychological effects will it have on the child once he or she learns the truth.

 

[bigj75]

please tell me this one is a joke. Yes it would cover up the suicide but there are just too many` variables for this to work. This is absurd.

 

[Limbo]

OK, so we have:

1. Jumping in a tigers cage
2. suicide from thirst
3. suicide during labour

Trolls are running rampant. Move along guys.

 

[bigj75]

OK, so we have:

1. Jumping in a tigers cage
2. suicide from thirst
3. suicide during labour

Trolls are running rampant. Move along guys.

the suicide from thirst is kinda believable just extremely difficult. But the other 2 are ridiculous. If people actually consider suicide during labor they are better off not covering it up and just doing suicide the normal way. Forget making it look accidental when you go through this much trouble.

Tiger cage is insane but people surprisingly try that.