Death vs Happy Life

[Lextyle]

I choose death as it frees you from any desire to be happy

 

[Aflame5926]

death. even in a happy life you can still be quickly be miseriable.

life in general just sucks

 

[FuneralCry]

I don't understand how anyone could label existence as happy as to me existence will always be the most torturous, dreadful abomination that just causes all this harm and suffering, there's no happiness in how this existence was so tragically imposed when never suffering at all was perfection with existing beings in agony every second, the suffering and torture of existing is endless with no limit as to how much one can be tortured.

I'll just always see existence as the most terrible, dreadful mistake that only ever harms existing beings and no matter what I'd never wish to be conscious of anything at all, to be conscious in this existence is the most painful, torturous and futile burden. I'll just always see existence as the problem and simply just existing is enough to make me wish for the peace of an eternal sleep where all is gone and forgotten, I just want to erase this terrible, torturous existence, for me only non-existence could ever be positive, there's just so much evil in existence.

 

[Claymore7274]

honestly, if i had another chance at life, i'd take it, no other factor fucked my life more than myself, i can't blame anyone, can't blame the pandemic, can't blame my country

I did this to myself, to the point of no return, if only i could start again, i would do things right

 

[spellbound]

I had a good life a few years ago and I considered myself to be decently happy
It was at this time I attempted for the first time
I choose death in a heartbeat, no amount of happiness is worth living for

 

[inpainnosleep]

Not that my life was happy at all.....but I wish that I could go back in time and didn't fuck up my health which led me to have the most miserable life imaginable. Even though things were super hard before, it was manageable most days.

 

[dearlydeparted44]

I've come to realize that this is just an unhappy world. Happiness comes at someone else's expense. The human doesn't know what true happiness is.

 

[Aflame5926]

I've come to realize that this is just an unhappy world. Happiness comes at someone else's expense. The human doesn't know what true happiness is.

now you say this you totally right. holy shit you are right.

 

[itsgone2]

honestly, if i had another chance at life, i'd take it, no other factor fucked my life more than myself, i can't blame anyone, can't blame the pandemic, can't blame my country

I did this to myself, to the point of no return, if only i could start again, i would do things right

Agree. I've had some bad luck but was provided the blessings to still live well. It's all on me.

I'm sorry. Regret is so all consuming. If you're dealing with that too.

 

[dearlydeparted44]

honestly, if i had another chance at life, i'd take it, no other factor fucked my life more than myself, i can't blame anyone, can't blame the pandemic, can't blame my country

I did this to myself, to the point of no return, if only i could start again, i would do things right

I used to feel like this to some extent. However, I've come to realize that I existed within a given context. While, no, I didn't always make the best use of the what blessings I did have. I also understand that I did the best I could with who I was at that time. I made the best decisions based on my psychological development and guidance at that time. I did the best with what I had, given my circumstances, resources, and support system. I'm not making excuses for myself. However, I'm not going to beat myself up either for not playing a rigged game the right way.

I don't know, I guess I'm odd like that. To each their own.

 

[Forveleth]

I am just tired of living in general. Happy life, sad life. I want to be done.

 

[Lextyle]

I feel like I have instinct for death, I feel drawn to it. It's so calm just like anesthesia, but without waking up.

 

[purebliss]

I choose death as it frees you from any desire to be happy

No need to suicide when you are no longer suicidal, no?

It depends how you outline "happy life"
If its an unconditional permanent happiness there is objectively no reason to deny it.
You no longer are able to even think bad thoughts. Everything you do is the right choice from this moment onwards as it keeps you happy

 

[Afterglow]

If I could be genuinely happy, even ignorantly so, I'd choose that without a second thought.

Depression feels like torture. If there was a real way out of that, and you could be GENUINELY happy, I don't understand why anyone would choose anything else.

I'd take happiness, just to feel something other than this.

Some of these replies feel unnecessarily edgy. I know that the people here are hurting.

But if happiness was actually an option… why wouldn't you take it?

 

[Lextyle]

No need to suicide when you are no longer suicidal, no?

It depends how you outline "happy life"
If its an unconditional permanent happiness there is objectively no reason to deny it.
You no longer are able to even think bad thoughts. Everything you do is the right choice from this moment onwards as it keeps you happy

I think not having desire for happiness is better than being happy

 

[purebliss]

I think not having desire for happiness is better than being happy

But you no longer have any desires anymore at that point.
There no longer can be desire because you are only and exclusively happy.
You don't desire happiness. You just are

 

[Lextyle]

But you no longer have any desires anymore at that point.
There no longer can be desire because you are only and exclusively happy.
You don't desire happiness. You just are

No you have desire for happiness and constantly that desire is being fulfilled

 

[purebliss]

No you have desire for happiness and constantly that desire is being fulfilled

Nope
if you are fully happy then you can not desire happiness.

That would practically be the same as saying that you crave food when you have absolutely stuffed yourself.
You do not crave any food at all in that stage. Will that feeling go down eventually and you have to eat again, therefore crave it again? yes.

but in this scenario there is no "coming down". You are only happy. You are constantly "full". Therefore you can not desire

 

[starboy2k]

death. whether you have a happy life or not, it will still come to an end….might as well get the shit over with now.

 

[SoverignDreamer97]

Whatever the case, I WILL HAVE MY REST.

 

[Lextyle]

Nope
if you are fully happy then you can not desire happiness.

That would practically be the same as saying that you crave food when you have absolutely stuffed yourself.
You do not crave any food at all in that stage. Will that feeling go down eventually and you have to eat again, therefore crave it again? yes.

but in this scenario there is no "coming down". You are only happy. You are constantly "full". Therefore you can not desire

Well I guess the happy life in the thread is not about constant high, more like natural happy life where it goes down and you eat again kinda like in the analogy. I always felt like not having the desire in anything in the first place is always better than having that desire even if it gets constantly fulfilled. That's just my feeling not something objective to argue about

 

[purebliss]

Well I guess the happy life in the thread is not about constant high, more like natural happy life where it goes down and you eat again kinda like in the analogy. I always felt like not having the desire in anything in the first place is always better than having that desire even if it gets constantly fulfilled. That's just my feeling not something objective to argue about

That is a fair point I agree with.
If you eventually start to fade out of the Happiness, then yes. I would much rather choose instant death than having to crave the constant high. I was already chasing just a normal feeling my entire life.

I am sorry if it came off as if I tried to argue. I did not mean to be insulting or argumentative :<

 

[Lextyle]

But if happiness was actually an option… why wouldn't you take it?

If that was an option, I would take it why not, but if there is an option between death and happiness, I'm choosing death.

 

[Afterglow]

If that was an option, I would take it why not, but if there is an option between death and happiness, I'm choosing death.

But why? What's your reasoning behind choosing to die over choosing to be happy in this hypothetical scenario.

 

[Lextyle]

But why? What's your reasoning behind choosing to die over choosing to be happy in this hypothetical scenario.

I think I explained it higher in the thread

 

[wavydxebec]

I think the question is a bit vague but only because it's up to us what a "happy life" means, or if we can even imagine it. I can't. My life is the life I have, so the if it's death or the happiest I see my life being? I choose death. I can't even imagine what a happy life would look like unless I start imagining being an entirely different person. Either way, I want to opt out of my current life trajectory.

 

[Matchaaa]

I don't think eternal happiness exists, so I suppose I'd just choose death.
I feel that life is actually very fragile and can easily take a turn for the worse. Happiness is fleeting, people grow old, and there is always the chance of accidents or illness.
Especially without the option of assisted dying—that's the most painful part of it all.