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Alan James

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Apr 11, 2019
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I want to order N from A like hell, i dream of it, but i have no money at all (sometimes i cat't even pay for internet and cheap food) and i live with my mother which is at home all the time. But the main problem is customs at my shithole country (and the whole rotten and corrupt law enforcement system).

Here, for example, news from my country about how medicine drugs in bottles sized by customs.


A 52-year-old American man is facing up to 20 years in a Russian penal colony after placing an online order for a cleaning product that contains a chemical banned by Moscow. He was diagnosed with Crohn's disease is a chronic inflammatory disease of the gastrointestinal tract. In one study he read that peptides relieve the symptoms of diseases. After this he began to take them regularly.

It's exactly like N from A: He ordered online from China that peptides in bottles (without even knowing that detergent contained gamma-butyrolactone is included in the list of prohibited drugs, it can be used as a psychotropic substance) . At the border ALL and every parcels are scanned by x-ray (at least those from the list of suspicious countries - China and Mexico in this list). He ordered via something similar to "private courier" option: the package they brought home a man who introduced himself as a courier from EMS. Later it turned out that he was a customs officer involved in the operation "controlled delivery". In the box is of the order were two bottles of mineral water "Senezhsky" and the "Customs"magazine. He did not even imagine that his meds that he must take all his life contained this gamma-butyrolactone that is included in the list of prohibited drugs and honestly admitted that he oredered it (thought it was some kind of misunderstanding). Customs and police examined his computer and found nothing, any proofs and traces, and they did not found any evidence of payment but still put him in jail (where he was beaten 2 times). They know that he is not a criminal at all and that this meds is very important for his health and life but they (this system) don't give a shit at all: he is facing up 20 years in a Russian penal colony for this.

This case is fearfully similar to N from A order: If you change gamma-butyrolactone to N and China to Mexico it's exactly the same situation (even private courier option)

Maybe it's paranoia but I'am very afraid to order something like N in my country because of this. I don't know what to do (order or not)
On a regular basis this happens


as on the conveyor...
Also A told me that in my country i can't use Western Union or Moneygram because Mexico is some kind of banned/blacklisted and all payments are always interrupted. Bitcoin is the only avialable option. But i have no experience using bitcoin - seems i'am too stupid for all this cryptoccurency stuff.

I have an idea to go to another country and make the order but money is the problem
 
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Alan James

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Apr 11, 2019
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Interesting which country in Europe have the weakest customs. To go to another country like a tourist and make the order for N from there seems the only logical option for me
 
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Jesus that is all so terrible and corrupt. Perhaps trying to get Sodium Nitrite is your next best bet Alan James?
 
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I want to order N from A like hell, i dream of it, but i have no money at all (sometimes i cat't even pay for internet and cheap food) and i live with my mother which is at home all the time. But the main problem is customs at my shithole country (and the whole rotten and corrupt law enforcement system).

Here, for example, news from my country about how medicine drugs in bottles sized by customs.


A 52-year-old American man is facing up to 20 years in a Russian penal colony after placing an online order for a cleaning product that contains a chemical banned by Moscow. He was diagnosed with Crohn's disease is a chronic inflammatory disease of the gastrointestinal tract. In one study he read that peptides relieve the symptoms of diseases. After this he began to take them regularly.

It's exactly like N from A: He ordered online from China that peptides in bottles (without even knowing that detergent contained gamma-butyrolactone is included in the list of prohibited drugs, it can be used as a psychotropic substance) . At the border ALL and every parcels are scanned by x-ray (at least those from the list of suspicious countries - China and Mexico in this list). He ordered via something similar to "private courier" option: the package they brought home a man who introduced himself as a courier from EMS. Later it turned out that he was a customs officer involved in the operation "controlled delivery". In the box is of the order were two bottles of mineral water "Senezhsky" and the "Customs"magazine. He did not even imagine that his meds that he must take all his life contained this gamma-butyrolactone that is included in the list of prohibited drugs and honestly admitted that he oredered it (thought it was some kind of misunderstanding). Customs and police examined his computer and found nothing, any proofs and traces, and they did not found any evidence of payment but still put him in jail (where he was beaten 2 times). They know that he is not a criminal at all and that this meds is very important for his health and life but they (this system) don't give a shit at all: he is facing up 20 years in a Russian penal colony for this.

This case is fearfully similar to N from A order: If you change gamma-butyrolactone to N and China to Mexico it's exactly the same situation (even private courier option)

Maybe it's paranoia but I'am very afraid to order something like N in my country because of this. I don't know what to do (order or not)
On a regular basis this happens


as on the conveyor...
Also A told me that in my country i can't use Western Union or Moneygram because Mexico is some kind of banned/blacklisted and all payments are always interrupted. Bitcoin is the only avialable option. But i have no experience using bitcoin - seems i'am too stupid for all this cryptoccurency stuff.

I have an idea to go to another country and make the order but money is the problem

Why don't you ask A his success rate to your country and ask him a country in Europe with lax customs if your country is considered high risk?
 
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Alan James

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Apr 11, 2019
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Jesus that is all so terrible and corrupt. Perhaps trying to get Sodium Nitrite is your next best bet Alan James?

After all this news i afraid to order even Sodium Nitrite and this is not just paranoia: problem is that there are too many lists of prohibited substances in this country (and you can't watch them freely) and there are no guarantees that Sodium Nitrite is not in some of this lists (like in this case from that news article this poor man did not even suspect that meds are prohibited by law).

20 years just for the meds, not even some drugs. Cartel drug barons got less sentences.
 
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After all this news i afraid to order even Sodium Nitrite and this is not just paranoia: problem is that there are too many lists of prohibited substances in this country (and you can't watch them freely) and there are no guarantees that Sodium Nitrite is not in some of this lists (like in this case from that news article this poor man did not even suspect that meds are prohibited by law).

20 years just for the meds, not even some drugs. Cartel drug barons got less sentences.

Best of luck Alan James in whatever you decide to do. Your situation does sound very uncomfortable and that's definitely an understatement.
 
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Alan James

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Apr 11, 2019
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Best of luck Alan James in whatever you decide to do. Your situation does sound very uncomfortable and that's definitely an understatement.

Thanks!

Another example:

"Russian Ilon Musk" died due to torture and rape in the detention center - https://lenta.ru/news/2018/04/16/ilonmask/

A forensic examination conducted in February-March showed that Pshenichny did not commit suicide, but died as a result of injuries. The arrested was beaten, raped, some bones were broken, incised and puncture wounds were found on his body, electric marks were found in his mouth (traces of torture with electricity), his spine was broken and then he was strangled.
 
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JustOverIt

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Nov 8, 2018
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Thanks!

Another example:

"Russian Ilon Musk" died due to torture and rape in the detention center - https://lenta.ru/news/2018/04/16/ilonmask/

A forensic examination conducted in February-March showed that Pshenichny did not commit suicide, but died as a result of injuries. The arrested was beaten, raped, some bones were broken, incised and puncture wounds were found on his body, electric marks were found in his mouth (traces of torture with electricity), his spine was broken and then he was strangled.

Jesus what a horrible way to go. Is this really how we treat brilliant minds? Fuck them over when you are not transparent with costs and they try to get back at you for it? Absolutely terrible.
 
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