Method Could this be the perfect method?

[PotentiallyWasted]

Do you have some real evidence in support of the selected claim or it's just your fantasy?

I have the feeling you're trolling me now. You can't seriously say I "pulled that stuff out of my ass" when I've posted reliable scientific sources twice clearly showing how continuous oxygenated blood flow is absolutely necessary to regain and maintain consciousness.

Oxygen Metabolism-induced Stress Response Underlies Heart-brain Interaction Governing Human Consciousness-breaking and Attention - PubMed

Neuroscientists have emphasized visceral influences on consciousness and attention, but the potential neurophysiological pathways remain under exploration. Here, we found two neurophysiological pathways of heart-brain interaction based on the relationship between oxygen-transport by red blood...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Cerebral Oxygen Delivery and Consumption in Brain-Injured Patients - PMC

Organism survival depends on oxygen delivery and utilization to maintain the balance of energy and toxic oxidants production. This regulation is crucial to the brain, especially after acute injuries. Secondary insults after brain damage may include ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Both explain that it's not just about how much oxygen is in your blood overall, but about the continuous supply of oxygen to the brain tissue through breathing and circulation. Once breathing stops, oxygen delivery falls too low to restore consciousness, even if some oxygen remains in the blood.

Admitting you're simply wrong now is more honorable than trying to convince me you're not. Misinformation is dangerous. (Especially on this site )

Maybe you're trying to refuse the fact that such a simple method exists out there.

 

[Intoxicated]

Both explain that it's not just about how much oxygen is in your blood overall, but about the continuous supply of oxygen to the brain tissue through breathing and circulation. Once breathing stops, oxygen delivery falls too low to restore consciousness, even if some oxygen remains in the blood.

You claim that delivery of oxygen to the brain drops below "the functional threshold" "almost immediately when breathing stops", and I want to see exact citation that supports this particular claim, not entire articles which you think somehow explain your point of view. Otherwise, I could with equal ease claim that those articles prove that your statement is a complete bullshit, without quoting anything particular from there.

Admitting you're simply wrong now is more honorable than trying to convince me you're not.

I can only admit that I likely waste my time commenting your ramblings here.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

You claim that delivery of oxygen to the brain drops below "the functional threshold" "almost immediately when breathing stops", and I want to see exact citation that supports this particular claim, not entire articles which you think somehow explain your point of view. Otherwise, I could with equal ease claim that those articles prove that your statement is a complete bullshit, without quoting anything particular from there.

I can only admit that I likely waste my time commenting your ramblings here.

Yawn… why would I try and convince you if I'm already sure what I'm saying is right if you just fucking read the damn article.

 

[Intoxicated]

Yawn… why would I try and convince you if I'm already sure what I'm saying is right if you just fucking read the damn article.

If you have severe troubles with logical thinking, reading articles won't help you.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

If you have severe troubles with logical thinking, reading articles won't help you.

If you're unwilling to read the sources you demand, there's no point continuing. I trust the physiology and the peer-reviewed science. You clearly trust your imagination.

 

[Intoxicated]

If you're unwilling to read the sources you demand, there's no point continuing. I trust the physiology and the peer-reviewed science. You clearly trust your imagination.

Of course, it may be easy to pretend like you know something by referencing lengthy texts that people would likely not bother to read. But, unluckily for you, I'm a very curious person, so I've checked the articles you provided, and now I can say with all honesty that there is nothing there that would support your claim. These articles even barely touch respiration, they focus mostly on entirely different subjects.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

Of course, it may be easy to pretend like you know something by referencing lengthy texts that people would likely not bother to read. But, unluckily for you, I'm a very curious person, so I've checked the articles you provided, and now I can say with all honesty that there is nothing there that would support your claim. These articles even barely touch respiration, they focus mostly on entirely different subjects.

Honestly I should start demanding answers from you.

When and why did you jump to the conclusion that falling unconscious underwater, regardless of the reason for such thing to happen, isn't basically 100% fatal unless prompt rescue and assisted resurfacing happens?

This article for example:

Loss of Consciousness

When diving, it is essential to prevent the loss of consciousness underwater at all costs. Learn what causes to look out for in order to manage and minimise the risk of incapacitation. Humans are not designed for living underwater. Diving is, and remains, a very unnatural activity. The only...

www.dansa.org

Doesn't even specify loss of consciousness as having to always be critically low SaO2 levels in order for the individual to have an almost certain death. It states any reason for losing unconsciousness underwater is fatal.

"It stands to reason, therefore, that any condition that may impair one's attention, awareness, or the proper evaluation of risk while underwater, let alone consciousness itself, may have catastrophic results and the prospect of death by drowning. One could even say that the loss of consciousness underwater (LOCU) equals death, unless the person is very lucky indeed."

Now, I want YOU to show ME where you got the reasoning behind this "1 LiTrE oF bLooD oXYgEn In ToTAl = consciousness" nonsense.

 

[Intoxicated]

This article for example:

Loss of Consciousness

When diving, it is essential to prevent the loss of consciousness underwater at all costs. Learn what causes to look out for in order to manage and minimise the risk of incapacitation. Humans are not designed for living underwater. Diving is, and remains, a very unnatural activity. The only...

www.dansa.org

Doesn't even specify loss of consciousness as having to always be critically low SaO2 levels in order for the individual to have an almost certain death. It states any reason for losing unconsciousness underwater is fatal.

"It stands to reason, therefore, that any condition that may impair one's attention, awareness, or the proper evaluation of risk while underwater, let alone consciousness itself, may have catastrophic results and the prospect of death by drowning. One could even say that the loss of consciousness underwater (LOCU) equals death, unless the person is very lucky indeed."

Now, I want YOU to show ME where you got the reasoning behind this "1 LiTrE oF bLooD oXYgEn In ToTAl = consciousness" nonsense.

You changed the subject: the non-method you suggested in the first post is aimed to prevent conscious drowning, while the risks of accidental drowning in case if unconsciousness occurs in some pool of water is a different matter.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

You changed the subject: the non-method you suggested in the first post is aimed to prevent conscious drowning, while the risks of accidental drowning in case if unconsciousness in some pool of water is a different matter.

Nice dodge. I didn't change the subject—you just never answered the question.

I asked where you got the (seemingly correct but factually incorrect) idea that having oxygen in the blood means someone regains consciousness underwater. You still haven't answered, because you can't - it's nonsense.

My point was 100% relevant: unconscious underwater = death without rescue, no matter how much O2 they started with. Try again, or just admit your claim is complete bullshit.

I want precise quotations from any articles you might (but won't) find contradicting this, by the way. Go on, I'll wait.

 

[TheEmptyVoid]

This method is one I've come up with recently by studying the mechanics of fainting and shallow water blackout.

Feel free to debunk my method if it's got any obvious flaws making it highly risky in terms of permanent brain damage if done incorrectly.

Essentially what I thought of is shallow water blackout but instead of hyperventilating then holding your breath, you faint via other methods. These other methods could be inhaling an inert gas underwater, but for ease of use, you could literally use anything to fall unconscious underwater. A literal YOUTUBE search could yield you many possibilities on how to faint on command but what I've gone with is:

1. Quick, deep breaths
2. Once you feel you're dizzy, put your thumb on your mouth (take a final deep breath before doing this)
3. Blow into your thumb as hard as you can WITHOUT LETTING ANY AIR OUT (note that you must already be in your body of water once you've reached this step since no more breathing will be going on.)
4. You will pass out (fall unconscious) due to lack of blood flow to the brain.

And that's pretty much it. I understand that SWB is essentially passing out underwater and since holding my breath didn't work and this "breathing into your thumb method" (which I found on YouTube) does work (to pass out), it's worth a try.

I actually did this back in 2024, and right when I blowed on my thumb, I was dreaming really vivid and it was about youtube videos, and I woke up with the most horrible feeling like when waking up initially feels like I am stuck in a video game, the feeling was pure mental torture even though it lasted 3 to 4 seconds, this method you said only makes you pass out but you don't die by itself.

 

[PotentiallyWasted]

I actually did this back in 2024, and right when I blowed on my thumb, I was dreaming really vivid and it was about youtube videos, and I woke up with the most horrible feeling like when waking up initially feels like I am stuck in a video game, the feeling was pure mental torture even though it lasted 3 to 4 seconds, this method you said only makes you pass out but you don't die by itself.

Dude ofc you don't die from hyperventilating + Valsalva . That method is just a workaround for hyperventilating + breath holding which is harder for going unconscious.

Dying only happens if you lose consciousness and are underwater.

Btw it seems @Intoxicated has finally realised he's been spewing misinformation this whole time and won't dare to write a reply to my message.