As for me I have already told my family that I will take my life in a peaceful dignified manner at the end of my life when I am an old man in a hotel. So they already have accepted it. They may not agree fully but accepted that I will take my life. I have N right now in my refrigerator so there will be no blood shed. Nothing traumatizing.
Oh, because I said the things you suggested were unrealistic, like a man hanging by his penis by a piece of piano wire, just completely backtracked everything I said from before. That is very unrealistic, which is why I even said that. Find me an article where a man has done this as a method.
Well Hitler did the piano wire thing for some people. OK well exclude that one because I can still prove my point. Because even still I don't see how someone jumping in front of a train and getting splattered with guts everywhere is suppose to be acceptable but getting eaten alive by lions isn't. They are both fast, both very painful, both very barbaric. And from what I can tell the only reason you support getting splattered on a train is because more people have done it so your desensitized to the idea of it. Again you have a double standard.
The train method is my favorite method. It looks brutal but it's fast and efficient if you lay your head across the tracks. I would choose a cargo train to reduce the number of people whom I could traumatize.
Dignity is subjective. IMO, there is no dignity in death, in turning into a corpse. That's why I don't mind brutal methods. What's the point of dying "in dignity" if you're gonna be dead after all ?
@AhG See this person gets it, they understand that there is either objective dignity or no dignity. You your just kind of in the middle which doesn't make any sense. It's a double standard.
These kinds of debates can be good. It helps us understand the world better. Just as long as we are not flaming each other then I don't see anything wrong with it. I am a philosopher at heart so.
What gave you the assumption that I was "in the middle"? Because the methods you suggested were way out of context and barely heard of being committed? Or the fact you can't give me any type of good reason why you get to be so judgmental on somebody else's method.
I can't really come up with an answer because of two reasons: this method doesn't look efficient at all and if people choose the train it's probably because they know it won't last two days and they won't be saved at the last minute.
Holy, could you shut up already please.
You have the wrong idea about me. I am having this frank discussion because I care. I care so much that I am willing to debate this, if I didn't care I would say do whatever the fuck you want, it's your life. I mean can you imagine what this world would be like if everyone felt that way. That is a world I don't want to have anything to do with. But people that love others will try to help them end their suffering even if they don't want that help, (to a degree of course).
Do whatever you want then. At least I tried. I was trying to get philosophical if you didn't realize. But I guess I can't do that on a forum like this.
I do realize. But as I said, you can save all this conversation since I asked please dont say this kind of things. It won't change anything. If you want to do that on a forum like this, create your own thread and start discussing there.
Yeah actually I will do that. I was already thinking about doing it anyway. I will wait a little while before I do that though so that I can think of the best way to structure my ideas.
Okay, so I live in Spain. I think my best way to ctb is catching the train. Please save your "it's a traumatic thing for others" speech.
I think I could jump in front of a train, maybe with my head at the front, so it'd be like falling from a high place. I couldn't make me put the neck on the rails tho.
The thing is, here in Spain we have a special kind of trains called "AVE" (which means Spanish High Speed) that can go up to 310 km/h. The thing is they either look like this or this
and I'm afraid that they'd just propel me into the air instead of smashing me.
There is another kind of trains but they're significantly slower. Opinions?
I see what you're saying but self deliverance is self deliverance. I don't think the method would be all that tragic, fact that he did decide to take his own life would be the tragedy.
