Can a person both want to live and be free from pain?

[egegeg444]

And if so, why?

 

[broken serenity]

Idk I've wanted to live before, but when does the pain stop?

 

[Bishop]

I think so. But I'm not sure if pain can ever be avoided. And pain is subjective. Say physical pain, I can't even bare the thought of tattoos but for many it's relatively nothing.

 

[xXiloveyouXx]

i think what you're describing here may be a manageable amount of pain, the sort of pain that comes with running a mile and feeling a sense of achievement. Pain (ie discomfort and challenges) can be good things in their own right that spur you into action and creativity, if you've ever heard of "flow states" that's what I'm talking about. It's when the pain outweighs the potential good of overcoming it that we arrive at the conclusion that suicide is necessary. If I could be my ideal self it would be someone who can overcome challenges as they happen and get a sense of fulfillment out of that. But since it can't happen and I don't want to suffer so much forever then the choice is clear and the pain needs to stop.

 

[iwkmsssb]

it's only human to want to live and not experience pain. it's not asking for the impossible but it is unrealistic to expect no pain at all. but pain all the time, now that's fucked