Butanediol notice

[Floraknife]

Wow, I'm sorry you're in that situation.

It's alright, I've been struggling to get back into the workforce for 2 years due to severe mental health issues. I'm ready to go and not sad about it. The liquor and 1,4b alone should be enough, I'll do whatever I need to do. Thanks though

 

[311]

I just took .5 teaspoon of 1,4 B mixed in about 1 cup of V8 juice. Tasted ok. No problems getting it down. Feeling a bit dizzy and my stomach feels warm. Other than that not much to report. I should have taken a shot of alcohol.

How you feeling bud

 

[TiredHorse]

So it has been what? About an hour? Definitely a bit of tightness in my chest; uncomfortable, but not alarming --and I am a non-drinker, so am about the cheapest date you could imagine.

Also, a slight lift in mood: I'm finding myself chuckling at my own mental quips (the majority of which I'll refrain from sharing here), which I haven't done in many, many weeks. Very different from the times I've been drunk: alcohol just puts me to sleep.

(Oh shit! We've been duped! This stuff deters suicide! Pull out! It's a trap!)

 

[Jenna]

Well I'll be ding-danged. Primperan is metoclopramide, and there's a bunch of it on eBay.

@gingerplum

What is your opinion about side effects like dystonia with this? Sorry if you have already been asked. Would hate to be in er with that.

 

[Floraknife]

So it has been what? About an hour? Definitely a bit of tightness in my chest; uncomfortable, but not alarming --and I am a non-drinker, so am about the cheapest date you could imagine.

Also, a slight lift in mood: I'm finding myself chuckling at my own mental quips (the majority of which I'll refrain from sharing here), which I haven't done in many, many weeks. Very different from the times I've been drunk: alcohol just puts me to sleep.

(Oh shit! We've been duped! This stuff deters suicide! Pull out! It's a trap!)

The last sentence made me laugh so hard I almost didn't even recognize it coming from my mouth lmfao!

 

[TiredHorse]

Curse you for starting these threads, @311! You're a stealth pro-lifer!

The last sentence made me laugh so hard I almost didn't even recognize it coming from my mouth lmfao!

If I could make you laugh so pleasantly, that just made it worthwhile that I didn't ctb today. I've otherwise been a right mess...

Oh, and after about an hour, a serving of spicy madras lentils kills the residual nastiness very nicely.

 

[Floraknife]

Curse you for starting these threads, @311! You're a stealth pro-lifer!

If I could make you laugh so pleasantly, that just made it worthwhile that I didn't ctb today. I've otherwise been a right mess...

Oh, and after about an hour, a serving of spicy madras lentils kills the residual nastiness very nicely.

<3 We're here for you regardless, and the laugh was wholeheartedly appreciated. Dark humor is the shit.

Also good to know, thank you!

 

[gingerplum]

@gingerplum

What is your opinion about side effects like dystonia with this? Sorry if you have already been asked. Would hate to be in er with that.

I think the concerns are overblown. As a nurse I gave an awful lot of this stuff out, and as far as I knew it was one of the more benign and safer drugs.

In 2012, metoclopramide was one of the top 100 most prescribed medications in the United States. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, the most effective and safe medicines needed in a health system.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide

I was actually unaware of the potentially severe movement disorder side effects until I was educated by the users on this forum. I am still inclined to think that those serious side effects are infrequent (if not rare), and usually associated with higher doses and/or a pre-existing motor neuron disorder.

As far as dosing and dosing regimen goes, I'm going to refer you to a thread where @Chinaski and I discuss the different schools of thought on this at length; he has included some helpful links. I don't necessarily favor one over the other, but I am very, very leery of the extremely high doses (40-60 mg) that are sometimes endorsed.

https//sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/best-anti-emetic-regimen.6289/#post-168365

 

[Stillnotsure]

BLEAH!!!

Maple syrup did help, but not 100%. Wow, was it nasty. Even after a dollop of yoghurt with lashings of maple syrup, I can still taste it. With that in mind, I strongly recommend anti-emetics be added to whatever "official" protocol is developed.

This stuff had darned well better get me properly looped and horny, as nasty as it is, or I may need to write a bad review on Amazon.

Ahahahaha! You make me laugh! Now that you're the guineapig you have to tell us about rectal use. Put a dollop on your finger and see if it burns like crazy down there! Yucky Yucky Yucky! On a serious note, I wonder if it is more palatable if you mix it in a small glass of your favorite spirit.

 

[TiredHorse]

Now that you're the guineapig you have to tell us about rectal use. Put a dollop on your finger and see if it burns like crazy down there!

Ain't gonna happen! This is someone else's big chance to contribute to our knowledge base. Hopefully 311 will have his 1,4B soon...

But yes, I suspect that the current protocol of mixing it with alcohol will be an excellent way to both increase efficacy and --thank Fortune!-- disguise that nasty flavor.

(And given that it didn't cause my mucus membranes discomfort, it only tasted nasty, I doubt it would be unpleasant if administered rectally.)

As a minor update, since it has now been about three hours: I still have a slight tightness in my chest, but it is significantly reduced. For about 90 minutes, starting maybe 45 minutes in, I felt a noticeable and pleasant increase of good cheer and a mild lessening of stress, the way people who enjoy getting an alcohol buzz have described their buzz to me. However, during that time of improved mood, stumbling upon things that typically put me into a funk --imagery, news items-- still definitely knocked the glow off the buzz. At this point, the buzz has faded to where I don't notice its effects, and I can feel myself sliding back into my typical gloom.

Sadly, no hornyness. This'll only get maybe two stars on Amazon.

I'm getting a wee bit concerned for @Itstimeforpeace, since she took considerably more than I did and she hasn't yet reported in.

 

[ausboy96]

Ain't gonna happen! This is someone else's big chance to contribute to our knowledge base. Hopefully 311 will have his 1,4B soon...

But yes, I suspect that the current protocol of mixing it with alcohol will be an excellent way to both increase efficacy and --thank Fortune!-- disguise that nasty flavor.

(And given that it didn't cause my mucus membranes discomfort, it only tasted nasty, I doubt it would be unpleasant if administered rectally.)

As a minor update, since it has now been about three hours: I still have a slight tightness in my chest, but it is significantly reduced. For about 90 minutes, starting maybe 45 minutes in, I felt a noticeable and pleasant increase of good cheer and a mild lessening of stress, the way people who enjoy getting an alcohol buzz have described their buzz to me. However, during that time of improved mood, stumbling upon things that typically put me into a funk --imagery, news items-- still definitely knocked the glow off the buzz. At this point, the buzz has faded to where I don't notice its effects, and I can feel myself sliding back into my typical gloom.

Sadly, no hornyness. This'll only get maybe two stars on Amazon.

I'm getting a wee bit concerned for @Itstimeforpeace, since she took considerably more than I did and she hasn't yet reported in.

I was thinking the same re: @Itstimeforpeace

 

[TiredHorse]

I was thinking the same re: @Itstimeforpeace

She's at about 2.5 hours now. .5 tsp is about 2.5ml, so theoretically nowhere close to a fatal dose, but as experimental as this is, and as wildly as GHB users' accounts vary, I think "YMMV" is the order of the day with 1,4B.

I'll breathe easier when she reports her experience.

 

[311]

She's at about 2.5 hours now. .5 tsp is about 2.5ml, so theoretically nowhere close to a fatal dose, but as experimental as this is, and as wildly as GHB users' accounts vary, I think "YMMV" is the order of the day with 1,4B.

I'll breathe easier when she reports her experience.

Probably fell asleep

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

I slept like a baby! Sorry for not being able to post last night. About 30 minutes after taking it I could not stay awake. No nausea or pains of any kind. It did raise my mood.

 

[ausboy96]

I slept like a baby! Sorry for not being able to post last night. About 30 minutes after taking it I could not stay awake. No nausea or pains of any kind. It did raise my mood.

This gives me high hopes. What was the supplier/seller you got it from?

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

Amazon- Indiana chemical.

 

[Toenditall]

Those who ordered, Did it arrive ok?

im in the uk and ordered from germany a week ago and it came today

 

[TiredHorse]

This gives me high hopes. What was the supplier/seller you got it from?

This is what I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JPJPDF1/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I slept like a baby! Sorry for not being able to post last night. About 30 minutes after taking it I could not stay awake. No nausea or pains of any kind. It did raise my mood.

That's very promising!

I don't know why I had that tightness in my chest --perhaps just stress?-- but it lasted for several hours at a very low level, fading gradually (gone now). I, too, experienced a nice mood lift for a couple hours, but I woke in a properly wretched state. I'm not sure if it was a slightly more intense "business as usual" or a hangover/comedown off the 1,4B, but I figured I'd mention it.

 

[Toenditall]

This is what I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JPJPDF1/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's very promising!

I don't know why I had that tightness in my chest --perhaps just stress?-- but it lasted for several hours at a very low level, fading gradually (gone now). I, too, experienced a nice mood lift for a couple hours, but I woke in a properly wretched state. I'm not sure if it was a slightly more intense "business as usual" or a hangover/comedown off the 1,4B, but I figured I'd mention it.

ill try mine tonight to see if i get any tightness probably go for 1.5-2ml and report back i saw some post about taking it analy so ill try that to

 

[TiredHorse]

ill try mine tonight to see if i get any tightness probably go for 1.5-2ml and report back i saw some post about taking it analy so ill try that to

Be careful: my sense is that one can build a tolerance for the stuff pretty quickly. Maybe @311 or @gingerplum would be the one to ask about that? I think it came up early on as a tangent in the MegaThread.

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

I slept like a baby! Sorry for not being able to post last night. About 30 minutes after taking it I could not stay awake. No nausea or pains of any kind. It did raise my mood.

how long?

 

[Toenditall]

Be careful: my sense is that one can build a tolerance for the stuff pretty quickly. Maybe @311 or @gingerplum would be the one to ask about that? I think it came up early on as a tangent in the MegaThread.

ive got 300ml of 1.4b so i should be ok was planning on taking most of it anyway

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

This is what I got:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JPJPDF1/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's very promising!

I don't know why I had that tightness in my chest --perhaps just stress?-- but it lasted for several hours at a very low level, fading gradually (gone now). I, too, experienced a nice mood lift for a couple hours, but I woke in a properly wretched state. I'm not sure if it was a slightly more intense "business as usual" or a hangover/comedown off the 1,4B, but I figured I'd mention it.

I didn't feel the tightness but my stomach did feel warm in my stomach. After that I went right off to sleep.

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

how long?

I slept for about 10 to 11 hours.

 

[littlelady774]

Be careful guys. I hear ghb is highly addictive

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

Be careful guys. I hear ghb is highly addictive

it is addictive..

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

I'm not planning on taking more until I ctb. I'm starting therapy so I'm trying not to. It's a weird feeling having it near me knowing now that it's here when/if I need it. It's kind of a relaxing feeling.

 

[Toenditall]

taste is quite bitter but not bad at all tbh and didnt sting when taken analy for those who wanted to know had about 2ml toatal

 

[Stillnotsure]

taste is quite bitter but not bad at all tbh and didnt sting when taken analy for those who wanted to know had about 2ml toatal

Thank you brave soul. This makes it a viable option for sensitive stomach people.

 

[Jadon91]

Since the megathread has been closed, I report here.
This is what I found from 8chan.

1,4-butanediol OD:
1- Do not drink alcohol.
2- Take 30mg metoclopramide 1 hour prior.
3- Drink more than 50 ml 1,4-butanediol (99%).
* You may combine 1,4-BD with sedatives/hypnotics and opiate/opioid.
** You may drink 1,4-BD in orange or cranberry juice to mask the taste.
*** You may drink alcohol after starting to feel the effect of drug (when metabolized to GHB/GBL).

People have died with ~10g 1,4-BD (i.e.,10 ml 1,4-BD 99%). The symptoms are similar to alcohol intoxication.

It's hard to estimate the time of death because it depends on ADH1B genotype–but, based on elimination half-life–it'd take less than 6 hours.
Although drinking alcohol with 1,4-BD suppresses CNS, it's best not to do so, since alcohol acts as a competitive substrate to alcohol dehydrogenase. Further, to hasten death and prevent saturated metabolizm, 1,4-BD could be drunk in several shots leisurely. This way the chance of vomiting decreases for those who want to do it without anti-emetic. Ingesting 1,4-BD without anti-emetic might induce vomiting while still conscious, yet the outcome is most likely fatal.
Alternatives for 1,4-butanediol (GABA B), which are sold under several brand names, are Gamma-Butyrolactone, Glutamic acid, gamma-Aminobutyric acid, gamma-Valerolactone, 4-Fluorophenibut, Aceburic acid, GABOB, Baclofen, Fenibut, and Tolibut. Some of these products are easier to find than 1,4-BD.



>The doses of 1,4-butanediol ingested ranged from 5.4 to 20 g in the patients who died and ranged from 1 to 14 g in the nonfatal cases.
>Patient 1 was a previously healthy 32-year-old man who ingested approximately 200 ml of a dietary supplement called Thunder Nectar for its purported ability to increase libido
>his 29-year-old wife (Patient 2) ingested 110 to 140 ml of the same product.
>They had obtained it from a friend who had purchased it at a sports-nutrition store and told them it was nontoxic.
>The bottle was unlabeled; they received no dosage instructions.
>The woman's last memory was that 15 minutes after drinking the Thunder Nectar, she felt "lightheaded" and sat down in a chair.
>She awoke seven hours later, on the floor with her husband, covered with vomitus and with evidence of fecal incontinence.
>Her husband was dead.
>An autopsy revealed only pulmonary edema.
>There was no evidence of aspiration.
>Patient 3 was a 42-year-old woman who ingested 30 to 60 ml of a dietary supplement called NRG3 to treat insomnia.
>She had a history of depression, for which she was taking sertraline.
>Her boyfriend reported that she was talking with him three hours after taking the NRG3 and was sleeping when he left one hour thereafter
>she was dead when he returned eight hours later. The blood concentrations of sertraline were within the range of postmortem blood
Adverse events, including death, associated with the use of 1,4-butanediol

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11150358



>Dosage and levels of GHB/GBL in human tissues.
>Therapeutic Bl 24–88 mg/L
>Drowsiness 25 mg/kg (oral) – 80 mg/L peak plasma
>Amnesia 10 mg/kg (oral)
>Sleep/deep sedation 20–30 mg/kg (oral)
>Recreational 35 mg/kg (oral)
>Anaesthesia >50 mg/L
>Sleep 50 mg/kg (IV) peak blood 170 mg/L
>Sleep 75 mg/kg (oral) peak plasma at 2 h 90 mg/L, plasma at 6 h 9 mg/L
>100 mg/kg (oral) ur peak at 4 h 1100 mg/L
>Galloway et al. (2000) suggest that a potential lethal dose may be between 15 and 50 g (250–750 mg/kg) for a 70 kg person.