Binchotan charcoal

[Bigsmoke777]

Does anyone know about Jealous Devils Binchotan charcoal? It seems like the best charcoal option for the CO method to me. Maybe if I use regular briquettes as well? Thoughts?

 

[befree]

No, don´t use briquettes. We had this question several times before. Use a high quality lump coal and of course a high quality BBQ. I would use something like a Weber kettle BBQ or similar.

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[Bigsmoke777]

No, don´t use briquettes. We had this question several times before. Use a high quality lump coal and of course a high quality BBQ. I would use something like a Weber kettle BBQ or similar.

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

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So you dont have information on Jealous Devils Binchotan charcoal as an option

 

[befree]

No, I don´t know. I just visited their website. One thing does not convince me when using it for CTB:

"Onyx Binchotan is carbonized under extreme heat (over 2300 degrees F) in specialized kilns for several days. This unique process gives binchotan its distinctive rock-hard metallic feel and whitened surface - and its incredible burn."

This may be good if you want to grill a steak, but I don't know if this is useful if you want to generate as much CO as quickly as possible.
I would probably buy a regular, high quality coal in not too small pieces. I think it´s better if the pieces are about the same size.

 

[Bigsmoke777]

No, I don´t know. I just visited their website. One thing does not convince me when using it for CTB:

"Onyx Binchotan is carbonized under extreme heat (over 2300 degrees F) in specialized kilns for several days. This unique process gives binchotan its distinctive rock-hard metallic feel and whitened surface - and its incredible burn."

This may be good if you want to grill a steak, but I don't know if this is useful if you want to generate as much CO as quickly as possible.
I would probably buy a regular, high quality coal in not too small pieces. I think it´s better if the pieces are about the same size.

I thought the carbon content of the charcoal was important. Binchotan is 90-95% carbon. Do you have any more specific recommendations about which lump charcoal or "regular charcoal" to use? I see a lot of confusion and vague answers on this forum

 

[Praestat_Mori]

If you have the opportunity to do some test with a CO meter (range 10k ppm) that could give answers. Without tests I would stick to the recommendations.

 

[befree]

Do you have any more specific recommendations about which lump charcoal

No. I don´t live in the USA. So I can´t recommend any brands. I gave you very precise answers. I can´t say more about it.

 

[Bigsmoke777]

If you have the opportunity to do some test with a CO meter (range 10k ppm) that could give answers. Without tests I would stick to the recommendations.

That makes sense and is helpful. I can either spend hundreds to test different products to get answers (I guess that's just not available on a forum made for that), or simply stick to vague recommendations (which makes more sense bc its vague and I have to be very careful about the product I choose). Are there any links to threads where people arent confused in the comments and know more about this? Is it against the rules of the suicide forum to post any direct information, or research done on the specifics of what charcoal to use? Yes, I see that lump and high quality charcoal is better. That's the same as saying use high quality shampoo. I guess anyone wanting to do this method should find out the specifics on their own considering the experts either dont know or arent willing to give more information

No. I don´t live in the USA. So I can´t recommend any brands. I gave you very precise answers. I can´t say more about it.

So any high quality lump charcoal or high quality regular charcoal will produce enough CO if I do it right... That's how "precise" we can get?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

@Bigsmoke777 Yes I understand your concerns, there is always a chance that CO method fails for unknown reasons. Basically any coal burning will produce CO gas in an incomplete combustion, the question is always does it burn long enough and does it produce enough CO for enough amount of time. They are always individual factors. To be "sure" a CO meter would be necessary and helpful.

There is a post when someone tested 8 chimney starters with weber briquettes in a car and he could hold 8-9k ppm inside for several hours. That would have certainly been enough for a success.

Carbon monoxide megathread

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

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Another test back in 2018:

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But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

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I don't know if someone here on the forum was successful with 1way BBQs but people died using 1way BBQs whether they intended it or they didn't. I really would like to do tests myself and present them here but that would raise questions at home. But anyway the coal we have here in my country is different to the products you have in your country.

 

[Bigsmoke777]

@Bigsmoke777 Yes I understand your concerns, there is always a chance that CO method fails for unknown reasons. Basically any coal burning will produce CO gas in an incomplete combustion, the question is always does it burn long enough and does it produce enough CO for enough amount of time. They are always individual factors. To be "sure" a CO meter would be necessary and helpful.

There is a post when someone tested 8 chimney starters with weber briquettes in a car and he could hold 8-9k ppm inside for several hours. That would have certainly been enough for a success.

Carbon monoxide megathread

Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Another test back in 2018:

Carbon monoxide megathread

But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...

sanctioned-suicide.net

I don't know if someone here on the forum was successful with 1way BBQs but people died using 1way BBQs whether they intended it or they didn't. I really would like to do tests myself and present them here but that would raise questions at home. But anyway the coal we have here in my country is different to the products you have in your country.

The only tests I've seen done have been done on briquettes, which I've been advised against on this post, or "regular bbq charcoal" with high purity of course because what does that even mean. I know having the right amount of CO for the right amount of time is kind of the whole point of finding the right product on top of doing the method correctly

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I thought the carbon content of the charcoal was important. Binchotan is 90-95% carbon. Do you have any more specific recommendations about which lump charcoal or "regular charcoal" to use? I see a lot of confusion and vague answers on this forum

The charcoal I bought was plain old "RO" lump and it says it's 100% carbon right on the front of the bag.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

The only tests I've seen done have always been done on briquettes which I'm recommended to not use so

I have not tried the CO method myself because it could be the first and last time I do this. You can use briquettes but they could produce other unwanted emissions that make it uncomfortable in the room/tent, This risk is reduced using lump charcoal without any additives.

Basically any coal even wood could be used CO is always there when it's an incomplete combustion, it's about the amount and whether it is enough to CTB.

 

[Phtzzzing]

Does anyone know about Jealous Devils Binchotan charcoal? It seems like the best charcoal option for the CO method to me. Maybe if I use regular briquettes as well? Thoughts?

If it is real Binochotan charcoal it is ideal for ctb. I shall research the company name, and check their veracity. Thank you very much. This would be preferable to my chosen method. You do not need much to get the necessary co. It must sound metallic when you click them together. Much luck to you.

Does anyone know about Jealous Devils Binchotan charcoal? It seems like the best charcoal option for the CO method to me. Maybe if I use regular briquettes as well? Thoughts?

Took a quick look at their site and they use South American hardwood, so be careful. The firing may be the same, but the wood they use has fundamental differences. and I am unsure of it's properties. Smokeless/white charcoal is what the traditional binchotan was called. Korean charcoal gives off plenty of CO too, but it may be impossible to get now. Looks like a pipe with holes.