Venting Being short as a man is a death sentence

[stepanch1k]

Height for a man is one of the biggest factors in life, I think everyone here has already seen the chart showing height and suicide rate. It's a also a very important for mating success, as well as intrasexual relationships, since being tall means your more dominant and a leader. I just wish that the uncontrollable things wouldn't control your life outcome. The halo effect tall people get is crazy, while short people get the oposite.
I'm not even that short myself (jfl, that's just a fucking cope to keep me sane, for reference I'm around 170), I know a guy who's 2 meters tall and just the diffrence in treatment that he gets vs what I get makes me so depressed at night.
Anyways I gotta "improoove" and man up and shit, it's fucking sad and it's fucking over

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

I dunno, i'm about 6ft and i get treated like shit constantly. The only difference is i get called tall before being abused sometimes.

 

[Enyan]

Idk if it's a cultural difference or if the whole height obsession is just a younger generation thing, but where I live, "short" guys don't have many issues dating and finding success. I'm sure there's beneficial treatment of taller guys, btw, not saying there isn't, but being short is not a death sentence. I'm sorry it's so hard for you where you live.

(Also I don't even see 1,70m as that short, and I'm from a country where 1,78m is the average for men.)

 

[DarkShadows]

It's never been an issue for me but I'm not and never have been a social person. I actually think it comes with some benefits like I want to be inconspicuous and being short helps imo and I think people are nicer to me because I don't seem intimidating to them along with looking young and not being unattractive.

Being tall does help with social status and attraction along with other things but it's not something I care much about.

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I kind of get the feeling you're on the looksmax or incel forums. Those forums do not accurately portray real life. Look at all the couples walking around there's loads of short men with partners, ugly men with partners etc. Yeah, being tall does help, but it's not the be all or end all.

 

[LetMeOut67]

I'm tall but I look like I been dragged through hell and was only vaguely attractive in my much younger years certainly not now

 

[iguazo falls]

i don't think its a death sentence but it sucks. i think my strat is to play up the young twink thing for whatever it's worth and make the most of it and own it (its probably worse to try and compensate alot since people will see through it). the handsomest guy i know is shorter than me, he also grooms himself quite well and dresses well. i think tho theres something to be said for how shit straight people treat eachother (or how viral vain criticisms of either gender recieves) because ive started being less attracted to women and prefer the idea of a male partner.

the more important thing is to not internalise it, but definitely still acknowledge you deserve better. i had some lady laugh at me recently just by hearing my voice and honestly the last thing i want is to impress her cause she doesn't know what i've been through. in my workplace which is relatively blue collar and requires a lot of confidence/standing your ground has a lot of very tall large guys but some short guys and femme guys too who excel. in the workplace you will probably have to work harder to "assimilate" but if you aren't valued enough to be a necessary inconvience for some people then its time to keep looking IMO.

the other thing it probably really depends where you live and whos around you.

 

[hiding the roses]

its only liveable if youre gay or desperate enough to tolerate the disrespect

 

[Echo]

I'm a short woman at 5ft 3 and only dated shorter men around 5ft 7in.
I wouldnt date a tall man actually. I'd look silly next to someone 6ft.

 

[goodtime]

my player ex was 5'3, if that. he broke up with me and was surrounded by girls again right after. i know there are girls who only date tall guys, but really height is no barrier if your charismatic and charming

 

[Enyan]

I'm a short woman at 5ft 3 and only dated shorter men around 5ft 7in.
I wouldnt date a tall man actually. I'd look silly next to someone 6ft.

Adding onto that: I'm a tall woman (5'8) and two of my ex boyfriends were 5'6 and 5'7. That would have never, ever, ever been a deal-breaker for me. And no, I also never had secret thoughts a la "I wish they were taller". Not a single second. I WAS worried they'd love me less bc I was taller than them, though. Insecurities are fun.

I'm probably a generation above OP, but I'm convinced there's girls like that in his age range, too.

(Sorry for replying on this thread again, I totally forgot to say that during my initial response)

 

[1nocares]

Maybe it's because I'm a woman, but I guess being tall hasn't done much for me. It's just been something for people to point out.
I don't care if men are shorter than me, in fact all guys that have expressed some sort of feeling towards me have been shorter. The woman who have expressed feelings towards me tend to be taller? Maybe it's who I associate with. Why am i thinking about it this much.
I don't know, I think we all tend to be insecure in some way. I always think that guys won't like me because I'm taller than them, but who am I to say

 

[tvc15]

man i understand and i wanna blow my brains out over it too but also you need to unrot your brain from bp because you can't determine your life over terms like "mating success." while yeah height/looks do realistically matter, a 5'6 guy who genuinely invests into himself, and by that i mean things like his perspective, skills, education, etc. (not just his physical appearance) is going to perform significantly better. tbh it's all cope for the most part anyway because you can look great but the main thing is being emotionally intelligent enough to understand how to maintain relationships. the average person in real life is just attracted to basic hygiene/health over anything else. which includes mental health, and i'm not speaking about you specifically, but i feel like a lot of people in looksmaxxing and similar spheres fail to acknowledge that they are, bluntly, mentally ill and probably disturbing to be around and that's why people aren't attracted to them. and i know cause im painfully self aware of this of myself

 

[TheBag]

I'm 179 cm but in my country that's well below the average of 184 cm. At least 21% of the men here are 190 cm. I get the OPs sentiments. I find it annoying to be standing in line in the supermarket with such a 'giant' in front of me, or in a bar, or wherever.
If it helps any. AlieExpress sells shoes that will add 10 cm to your length. That's quite a lot.They are not very comfortable but they look okay.

Back in the day in my dating years women frequently gave me 'that look'. Hmm...you are not that tall, are you? No, I said, but then again, you're nowhere near a cup C are you?
(or a D, I'll take a double D ).

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

I'm a woman and want to echo what some other girls have said here as well, because most of the men I've been with have also been short, though I had a gf who was a lot taller than me before.

The person I've been in love with for awhile now is only 5'4, so pretty much the same height as me, I'm around 5'3. His height has never been a turn off for me or something I need to "look past", it actually makes cuddling or sharing clothes a lot easier if you're of a similar build and size.

I know it's difficult not to be insecure about this, especially because in Western beauty standards it feels like tall men are appreciated more, but in a great deal of the world it's extremely uncommon for men to reach 6 ft height. Go to Asia and you'll see just how rare tallness is there. It's a very unrealistic standard to impose upon guys.