Anyone plan on taking SN without antiemetics?

[AlreadyGone]

Nope. I do not want to take a chance without antiemetics.

 

[S1mpleme]

Only alcohol and SN.

 

[Quarky00]

Only alcohol and SN.

Care to explain ? Will reduce absorption , irritate stomach , increase vomiting ..

 

[S1mpleme]

Care to explain ? Will reduce absorption , irritate stomach , increase vomiting ..

I don't have access to any meds and I need something to relax. Yes I might vomit and there is a chance that I won't survive, otherwise I can drink 2nd glass.

 

[aramir]

guys , please read the latest edition of the peaceful pill handbook for important information that you need for the method.

 

[gothfairy]

i'm planning on doing it tomorrow day with no antiemetics.

 

[SnowWhite]

I'm on Levectrium for epilepsy. Its interaction with antiemetics causes vomiting and and possibly pain. I haven't really a choice.

 

[Dreamcollege]

I've taken a few licks worth of SN, was super nauseous a few hours later before I remembered that I took some SN and that was the cause. The nausea is really strong. I've got a tough stomach and haven't thrown up in over a decade, but I have to admit that SN is really powerfully sickening. Definitely need an antiemetic

 

[SnowWhite]

i'm planning on doing it tomorrow day with no antiemetics.

I wish you a peaceful journey to the other side.

 

[maybeimalreadydead]

I'm really feeling like I'll try without. I have zofran, which I know isn't the best but I'm thinking of smoking a ton and taking zofran and just preparing extra sn. I'm debating it, unless I can manage to find some

 

[waterbottleman]

I've taken a few licks worth of SN, was super nauseous a few hours later before I remembered that I took some SN and that was the cause. The nausea is really strong. I've got a tough stomach and haven't thrown up in over a decade, but I have to admit that SN is really powerfully sickening. Definitely need an antiemetic

That sucks.

Fortunately it seems like you're only conscious for like 10 to 20 minutes and then poof lights out.

SN seems like a pretty good method to go relative to other options.

 

[Dreamcollege]

That sucks.

Fortunately it seems like you're only conscious for like 10 to 20 minutes and then poof lights out.

SN seems like a pretty good method to go relative to other options.

Unless you vomit it up. Then you're in a world of semiconsciousness and confusion and blue skin for a week

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Unless you vomit it up. Then you're in a world of semiconsciousness and confusion and blue skin for a week

You still succeed even if you vomit. You just need to drink more

 

[Dreamcollege]

You still succeed even if you vomit. You just need to drink more

Good luck keeping that down too. And that is even sssuming in your confusion you make yourself drink more

 

[WhyIsLife56]

Good luck keeping that down too. And that is even sssuming in your confusion you make yourself drink more

That's why it's best to take every precaution necessary depending on your body and reactions

 

[k75]

You might be able to succeed without antiemetics. People have.

But your best chance is if you use them. Don't you want your attempt to have the best chance of success?

The drugs that are recommended with SN are all designed to make it a peaceful and quick method. It may very well work without them, but when you start changing the formula, you start changing the reliability and painlessness. You might experience some suffering. you might fail.

I feel like if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.

Back to antiemetics, I've been thinking you'll probably throw up regardless, but they keep the drink in you long enough to absorb the SN before that happens.

I have a lot of doubts about how well most people will keep down additional glasses after they vomit the first time. I have a stomach condition, and if I'm puking, more liquid makes me puke even more. Even plain water. So I can't imagine salt water working out too well.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

Primperan or Domperidone are the key search words in certain listings.

 

[SugarbushMtn]

Just ordered Meto from Greek source, will let you know if it arrives. So far good communication and shipping cinfirmation. We'll see..

Take 15g via Enteric capsules and then 10 minutes later swallow the liquid dose. Double dose might help if liquid part is vomited.

 

[Quarky00]

smoking a ton

Maybe pose a problem.. search for "SN Weed" ;)

Take 15g via Enteric capsules and then 10 minutes later swallow the liquid dose. Double dose might help if liquid part is vomited.

Not considered a good idea. It was discussed in many threads. Gel capsules complicate stomach process, slow it, and reduce absorption. Double dose can do the opposite: vomiting all instead of some.. I'm not saying it is bad, but please research this.

I don't have access to any meds and I need something to relax. Yes I might vomit and there is a chance that I won't survive, otherwise I can drink 2nd glass.

Drinking alcohol is really against any common practice...
SN is taken in 50ml. Vomiting is minimal, and absorption is maximized.
Drinking at all, even water, is not recommend (at least 1-2h before).
Headache is also common.

Drinking 100ml of alcohol can change everything, make you vomit much more [violently], and may increase anxiety/headache rather than relax ... I'm not telling you what to do, just maybe rethink it, use benzo or other relaxing things, etc.

 

[jgm63]

I only plan on taking a painkiller and trying to keep it down. I simply have no way to get antiemetics quick enough before I need to ctb. Anybody else planning on just taking the SN alone?

Possible OTC antiemetics (will depend on your country)
Anagraine (metoclopramide eg Australia)
Buccastem (eg UK) / Nausetil (eg Australia) (prochlorperazine, note : has higher EPS risk)

Other OTC antiemetics
These may be less effective, but could be used if in a hurry, etc, though ideally it's better to get metoclopramide (or prochlorperazine)
"Dramamine" or "Gravol", or anything that says "dimenhydrinate". Should be widely available.
Meclizine ( eg Dramamine Less Drowsy, check meclizine is on label )
Metopimazine/Vogalene (eg France)
Diphenhydramine ( eg Benadryl or Nytol, check diphenhydramine is on label )
Peaceful pill handbook states that cannabis is an antiemetic, but if you're not used to taking it then I'm not sure if it's a good idea.

H2 BLOCKER / ANTACID
You should be able to find these over-the-counter.
Note : They are not considered to be essential.
Some people believe an antacid may be faster acting and more effective, but opinions vary. H2 blockers reduce the amount of acid your stomach makes, whereas antacid neutralises the acid already in your stomach.
H2 blockers : Tagamet (Cimetidine) / Zantac (Ranitidine), or supermarket own brands of cimetidine / ranitidine.
Antacid : I'm not sure what brand or type to recommend. I've seen Mylanta mentioned, but I can't say whether that's a good choice. Some people have used things such as Rennie or milk of magnesia.
Many people seem to go with Tagamet or Zantac, so you could just go with one of those.

PAINKILLERS
Paracetamol or Ibuprofen. You should be able to find these over-the-counter.

 

[purplemoon]

If you online meto order fails , what will happen ... Waste of money .. I admit spending 35$ x 3 was a too much . Very limited budget here .




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@mattwitt , I assume you read guide & FAQ , so answer is clearly no .

Pluse , there's nothing to report back .

Also 2nd search result "SN Meclizine":

Antiemetics (AE)
What they do:	Move SN quick to intestine – fatal Reduce vomiting
Do I need it?	Many used SN fatally without AE Many vomited even with AE
Will any antiemetic work?	NO. Guide provides 6 AEs – only use those. Antiemetics: Must target dopamine (Domperidone, Prochlorperazine) Preferably serotonin as well (Metoclopramide)
Will X work as AE?	If not in guide and you've searched threads, then NO. Don't use as antiemetics – Ondansetron/Zofran Diphenhydramine/Benadryl Dimenhydrinate/Dramamine Serotonin or Histamine only are not as effective. They don't promote gastric emptying. Read guide (AE by type – need dopamine antagonist)

I think @Quarky00 is spot on with charts & analysis...
maybe we could add a complementary title of Professor Quarky, Lol. You smartie you!

I think @Quarky00 is spot on with charts & analysis...
maybe we could add a complementary title of Professor Quarky, Lol. You smartie you!

I just thought of an SN question for anyone, about SN & fasting. I understand that it's of course better to not have any food recently eaten within a few hours of taking it, to avoid having anything to throw up.

But what do you all think of just fasting for 8-ish hours before taking SN?

In other words, what difference does it make if it's 24 / 48 hours versus 8 to 10 hours of fasting?

i'm not much of a math/science person, Lol, or is that completely obvious?!

 

[Lorntroubles]

I spent good time reading Stan's SN guide. I read all the comments of the almost 30-something pages to understand the questions posed and Stan's input on things.

8 hours fasting is good enough. It really isn't hard to fast that long.

48 hours is not for fasting. It is to introduce and prep your body so it reacts accordingly to the exit plan. Stan used a stat dose through SN and through his own method that he writes about. So this DOES work, just others want to change up the formula of what to take, the dosage, the wrong kinds of antacids, etc. He clearly gave the necessary answers. It's up to everyone to use logic.

 

[ALittleBurden]

I'm considering using SN, I can easily get 100g bottle but getting any drugs seems impossible. It does give me a slight anxiety, because right away I imagine the worst case scenario of failure, but this thread calms me down.

 

[Soulstax]

I spent good time reading Stan's SN guide. I read all the comments of the almost 30-something pages to understand the questions posed and Stan's input on things.

8 hours fasting is good enough. It really isn't hard to fast that long.

48 hours is not for fasting. It is to introduce and prep your body so it reacts accordingly to the exit plan. Stan used a stat dose through SN and through his own method that he writes about. So this DOES work, just others want to change up the formula of what to take, the dosage, the wrong kinds of antacids, etc. He clearly gave the necessary answers. It's up to everyone to use logic.

I don't think anyone denies this. Problem is many people don't have access to meto, so need to know if that's okay. Saying just follow stans guide is ideal of course, but people modify it because they need to..

 

[WhyIsLife56]

I don't think anyone denies this. Problem is many people don't have access to meto, so need to know if that's okay. Saying just follow stans guide is ideal of course, but people modify it because they need to..

Especially since everyone is different in terms of health, metabolism and of course availablility in medications.

 

[mattwitt]

Primperan or Domperidone are the key search words in certain listings.

WB Passingby !!!

 

[S1mpleme]

What do you guys think could be the worst? I don't care about failure or vomiting everhthing, but I don't have access to meds and not willing to get any of them. Also I'd like to eat something before CTB, cause it makes me feel better overall. And I want to get drunk to relax and probably kill SI. Do I have to expect any pain in this scenario?

 

[Ilikeshrimp]

Should I test it without ae? I'm probably gonna order some sn soon so maybe I'll try. If it doesn't work then I'll end up buying some probably