Discussion Any Atheistic Satanist on here?

[Reishi]

I live a lot of my life based on the teachings of the Satanic Temple.
The Satanic Temple isn't about devil-worship. They're atheists. They use Satan as a symbol of rebellion, of questioning authority, of valuing reason and personal sovereignty. Their "rituals" aren't magic they're performance art or symbolic acts that affirm individuality and challenge oppressive norms.
PUshing for separation of church and state, advocating for bodily autonomy, and calling out hypocrisy in religious privilege. They have seven guiding principles, and most boil down to: do what you want without harming others, question everything, and don't let superstition run your life.
Basically, it's like saying, "I don't need a god to tell me how to live... or die ...I can think for myself and still be moral."

On the subject of suicide, the Satanic Temple sees it both as tragic and a form of bodily autonomy that matters...

Does anyone else have feelings that match these ideals or maybe even happen to be a Atheistic Satanist as well?

 

[Lady_V]

That can pretty much describe me. I wear satanic shit around just to make people uncomfortable in the small-ass town I now live in. I've been to a few Satanic Temple meetings, and they were dope. Just talked about woman's reproductive rights and stuff.

 

[Reishi]

That can pretty much describe me. I wear satanic shit around just to make people uncomfortable in the small-ass town I now live in. I've been to a few Satanic Temple meetings, and they were dope. Just talked about woman's reproductive rights and stuff.

I sadly live far from where any meetings are held..... small town in the south ... probably would ride well with people where I live.

 

[Deepdense]

So it's "if being a hippie was a religion"?

 

[crazyotterkelly]

i used to follow some of the workings of Anton LaVey with the satanic bible. so basically satanic atheism with a humanitarian twist he made. even though it was very dated. i actually did get alot of insight out of this book. but i mean. the way he looked at death was the great absenence but my life hasn't been a endulgance rather a endurance test. i don't believe i will fully actualise my ego because i will never get were i really want to be

 

[Reishi]

So it's "if being a hippie was a religion"?

It's like a downgraded version of a anarchist.

 

[Whale_bones]

I used to be quite supportive of TST and thought they did some good work with church-state separation stuff. My opinion changed after finding out about Lucien Greaves' past support of the Might is Right and white supremacy stuff, hearing past members tell their stories of mistreatment, and seeing some of the things the organization pushes (that I won't go into more here, but suffice to say they certainly don't follow the 7 tenets or the ideals of humanism).

Of course, there's local chapters across the country that can still be good places for community/fellowship, but they're still connected to Greaves and the organization as a whole. I think a fair amount of people who get into it wouldn't keep donating to and supporting TST if they knew about these things.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I agree with a lot of those ideas but, I've never looked to join an organisation. I'll likely talk fairly openly about my ideas if asked but I'm not really looking to confront or provoke people. And I'm to appallingly lazy for actvism.

It never really occured to me there moderate organizations that labelled themselves as satanists though.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

LaVeyan Satanist here.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

The Satanic Temple isn't about devil-worship. They're atheists...Their "rituals" aren't magic

Seems like they could skip the Satan and the temple

 

[Reishi]

Seems like they could skip the Satan and the temple

It's basically a mascot to scare Christians

 

[Dejected 55]

Not going to judge the satanic religions... but you can't be an atheist and a satanist. It makes no sense. I'm an atheist. I believe in leaving others to their beliefs and hope they will leave me to my lack of them.

Atheists who try to form atheist groups in a manner similar to religious groups make me cringe... Atheism isn't a belief system... it's a lack of any other belief system... and there are people trying to turn atheism into a cult or religion and that makes no sense to me either.

 

[Bruce]

but you can't be an atheist and a satanist

I was just thinking that.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

So you're an atheist then? lol

I'm not getting the whole Satan mascot thing? Unless it's just an excuse to wear dark clothes and gothic type vibes?

 

[Reishi]

Not going to judge the satanic religions... but you can't be an atheist and a satanist. It makes no sense. I'm an atheist. I believe in leaving others to their beliefs and hope they will leave me to my lack of them.

Atheists who try to form atheist groups in a manner similar to religious groups make me cringe... Atheism isn't a belief system... it's a lack of any other belief system... and there are people trying to turn atheism into a cult or religion and that makes no sense to me either.

Atheistic Satanism isn't "believing in Satan." That's the whole point you're missing. Satan, in this context, is a symbol, not a deity. A metaphor. A mascot for rebellion, bodily autonomy, skepticism, and telling authority to sit down and shut up. No gods involved. Zero supernatural claims. Still atheist. It's basically atheism with a purpose.
You're also mixing up religion with theism. They're not the same thing. Religion can be ethical, philosophical, symbolic, or "political". Buddhism pulls this all the time and nobody short circuits over it. Atheistic Satanism functions more like a civil rights framework with a theatrical flair. It exists to challenge religious overreach, protect secularism, and advocate personal freedom. That's a cause, not a creed...

Humans organize around everything. Labor rights. Queer rights. Mutual aid. Even atheists get screwed over in very real, very organized ways, especially in places where religious groups have its grip around the law. Grouping up isn't worship. It's a strategy.
Atheistic Satanism isn't a religion pretending to be edgy...
It's atheism with a spine, a symbol, and the legal teeth to back it.
You don't have to like the aesthetic, but claiming it "makes no sense" is just ridiculous.

About TST

thesatanictemples.com

So you're an atheist then? lol

I'm not getting the whole Satan mascot thing? Unless it's just an excuse to wear dark clothes and gothic type vibes?

It's organized atheism with a cause , everything else is a show of rebellion against religious over reach .

Seems like they could skip the Satan and the temple

All it is, is mocking Christians with atheistic rebellion... it's mean't to peak people's interest.

I was just thinking that.

Ohhhh but you can.

 

[Dejected 55]

I'm not saying you can't believe whatever you want... and I'm not saying that mockingly either. I'm just saying atheism as a cult/religion/following really makes no sense to me... and I feel like Atheistic Satanism feels like an oxymoron to me.

Some of the Satanic groups have actually done some cool things in the US in terms of pointing out hypocrisy in other religions and in standing for some good causes... so I'm not saying anything negative about anything here... just wondering how atheism can be tied to anything else.

I also get that religion doesn't have to be all about the deity... and religion doesn't automatically equate to theism. That's why I specifically said "religion" and not theism though. I don't see how atheists trying to form a religion around atheism makes any sense to the core of what I always understood atheism to be. It feels like a changing of definitions, and I don't always love how society and people change definitions of words over time to be counter to their origins.

Like... randomly... how many people use "decimate" to equate to wiping out something... when it literally always meant "to reduce by 10%." I think there was a Doctor Who episode in the last 20 years that actually used "decimate" correctly and I loved the hell out of it after seeing so many examples of people using it incorrectly.

And unfortunately, humans use words incorrectly enough over time that it becomes an accepted definition... and it feels like words have a little less meaning every time we allow mis-use of words to redefine the language. I'm find with making up new words! I just hate arbitrarily redefining words based on misuse over time.

So, circling back... I feel like atheism is not the kind of thing you start a club or a cult or a religion over. You can certainly get together with other atheists and have a talk... but there doesn't feel like a legitimate way to organize a religion around atheism to me that doesn't make it just become a different kind of belief in a higher power and, thus, not at all atheism.

 

[Reishi]

I'm not saying you can't believe whatever you want... and I'm not saying that mockingly either. I'm just saying atheism as a cult/religion/following really makes no sense to me... and I feel like Atheistic Satanism feels like an oxymoron to me.

Some of the Satanic groups have actually done some cool things in the US in terms of pointing out hypocrisy in other religions and in standing for some good causes... so I'm not saying anything negative about anything here... just wondering how atheism can be tied to anything else.

I also get that religion doesn't have to be all about the deity... and religion doesn't automatically equate to theism. That's why I specifically said "religion" and not theism though. I don't see how atheists trying to form a religion around atheism makes any sense to the core of what I always understood atheism to be. It feels like a changing of definitions, and I don't always love how society and people change definitions of words over time to be counter to their origins.

Like... randomly... how many people use "decimate" to equate to wiping out something... when it literally always meant "to reduce by 10%." I think there was a Doctor Who episode in the last 20 years that actually used "decimate" correctly and I loved the hell out of it after seeing so many examples of people using it incorrectly.

And unfortunately, humans use words incorrectly enough over time that it becomes an accepted definition... and it feels like words have a little less meaning every time we allow mis-use of words to redefine the language. I'm find with making up new words! I just hate arbitrarily redefining words based on misuse over time.

So, circling back... I feel like atheism is not the kind of thing you start a club or a cult or a religion over. You can certainly get together with other atheists and have a talk... but there doesn't feel like a legitimate way to organize a religion around atheism to me that doesn't make it just become a different kind of belief in a higher power and, thus, not at all atheism.

To each their own

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

I'm not a satanist but I am an atheist; In reality I'm more of an anti theist because nobody should get to control the human race other than me.

 

[Endlichkeit]

I don't see any point in satanism as it was originally a reaction to Christianity, which is now almost completely dead. Mocking Christians is meaningless.

There are, however, actively spreading religions whose main goal is to build totalitarian society without human rights. Why not protest against them?

I also don't understand why you need satanism to "be rebellious, skeptical, question authority" etc.? You can do so without labeling yourself a satanist.

 

[Reishi]

I don't see any point in satanism as it was originally a reaction to Christianity, which is now almost completely dead. Mocking Christians is meaningless.

There are, however, actively spreading religions whose main goal is to build totalitarian society without human rights. Why not protest against them?

I also don't understand why you need satanism to "be rebellious, skeptical, question authority" etc.? You can do so without labeling yourself a satanist.

Christianity is not dead in law or policy. In the U.S. it's actively shaping abortion bans, trans healthcare restrictions, school curriculums, public funding, and "religious freedom" laws that conveniently only protect one religion. TST exists to say: if the state gives special treatment to religion, then all religions get that treatment. No exceptions.
As for "why not protest religions that want totalitarian societies," TST does. Constantly. Authoritarian religion isn't limited to one tradition, but in the U.S. the dominant threat is Christian nationalism. You don't punch abstract global villains when the boot on your neck is local and writing laws. You fight what has institutional power where you live.
And the "you don't need Satanism to be rebellious" point is technically true and practically irrelevant. You don't need a labor union to dislike exploitation either, but collective identity is how rights get defended in court. TST isn't a vibe. It's a legal structure. The label exists because labels are how the system recognizes standing, protections, and equal treatment.
Satan, in this context, isn't a being. It's a symbol of defiance against arbitrary authority, bodily autonomy, and individual conscience. Using that symbol is intentional. It forces hypocrisy into the open. When lawmakers say "religious freedom" and then panic the moment it applies to anyone else, the mask slips....

 

[Antyquel]

"Atheistic Satanist" is an oxymoron. Atheists are secular and their moral framework derives from mundane stimuli. A Satanist is the total opposite,

 

[Reishi]

"Atheistic Satanist" is an oxymoron. Atheists are secular and their moral framework derives from mundane stimuli. A Satanist is the total opposite,

"Atheistic Satanist" is not an oxymoron because Satanism, at least the atheistic kind, is not a religion in the god-worship sense. It's a symbolic framework. Satan isn't a being. He's a metaphor. A mascot for dissent, autonomy, and telling divine authority to get lost. If that already irritates someone, congratulations, the symbolism is working.

 

[Deepdense]

It's like a downgraded version of an anarchist.

I'd consider it more of an upgrade.

 

[Reishi]

I'd consider it more of an upgrade.

Lol one wants to burn the rulebook. The other wants to use the rulebook against the people who pretend it came from a "God".

But it's all in a matter of opinion.

 

[Antyquel]

"Atheistic Satanist" is not an oxymoron because Satanism, at least the atheistic kind, is not a religion in the god-worship sense. It's a symbolic framework. Satan isn't a being. He's a metaphor. A mascot for dissent, autonomy, and telling divine authority to get lost. If that already irritates someone, congratulations, the symbolism is working.

This is exactly why it's an oxymoron. Satanism is aestheticized dissent, you're borrowing religious language to posture against religion. An atheist doesn't practice anything, and they don't worship anything. They are secular. Worshipping Satan (this is the premise of Satanism, even if he is merely a "metaphor") isn't Atheistic, since you're still subconsciously devoted to something.

 

[Reishi]

This is exactly why it's an oxymoron. Satanism is aestheticized dissent, you're borrowing religious language to posture against religion. An atheist doesn't practice anything, and they don't worship anything. They are secular. Worshipping Satan (this is the premise of Satanism, even if he is merely a "metaphor") isn't Atheistic, since you're still subconsciously devoted to something.

As I previously stated Atheistic Satanists aren't actually worshipping anything. They just use Satan as a symbol to say "screw authority" or "I do what I want." It's like wearing a skull shirt to look rebellious...it doesn't mean you're devoted to skulls.
So it's not an oxymoron. No belief, no worship, just a mascot for being defiant against overbearing religion in government.

Groups like the Satanic Temple are atheists. They don't believe in any gods. They just use religious symbols and rituals for fun or to make a point. Stuff like the Church of Satan, Luciferian Atheists, Atheist Discordians, or secular witches and pagans do the same thing... they look kinda religious, act rebellious, but it's all symbolic. No gods, no worship, just theater and philosophy.

If you don't understand that then you should obviously do a bit more research on atheism and the many communities created from nonbelievers.

 

[deathisapanacea]

Unrelated point. If there is any Cat worshipping "cult" let me know. I wanna sign up so bad.

 

[Antyquel]

As I previously stated Atheistic Satanists aren't actually worshipping anything. They just use Satan as a symbol to say "screw authority" or "I do what I want." It's like wearing a skull shirt to look rebellious...it doesn't mean you're devoted to skulls.
So it's not an oxymoron. No belief, no worship, just a mascot for being defiant against overbearing religion in government.

Groups like the Satanic Temple are atheists. They don't believe in any gods. They just use religious symbols and rituals for fun or to make a point. Stuff like the Church of Satan, Luciferian Atheists, Atheist Discordians, or secular witches and pagans do the same thing... they look kinda religious, act rebellious, but it's all symbolic. No gods, no worship, just theater and philosophy.

If you don't understand that then you should obviously do a bit more research on atheism and the many communities created from nonbelievers.

I'm going to step back after this because it seems we're just going in circles. To reiterate, Atheists do not worship anything, not even symbolically, and they do not follow any kind of framework. "Atheistic-Satanists" are inadvertently devout and promoting worship. They are NOT secular. Do you see atheists lighting candles in the name of Atazoth or Baphomet? Or creating intricate sigils for ritual use? You are borrowing religious constructs in an attempt to look rebellious. Mimicking worship while rejecting God contradicts Atheism.

 

[Reishi]

I'm going to step back after this because it seems we're just going in circles. To reiterate, Atheists do not worship anything, not even symbolically, and they do not follow any kind of framework. "Atheistic-Satanists" are inadvertently devout and promoting worship. They are NOT secular. Do you see atheists lighting candles in the name of Atazoth or Baphomet? Or creating intricate sigils for ritual use? You are borrowing religious constructs in an attempt to look rebellious. Mimicking worship while rejecting God contradicts Atheism.

These groups aren't actually worshipping anything! Whats so hard to understand that they're using the symbols and rituals as tools or statements, not objects of devotion.

It's all supposed to be a mockery to religion!

 

[Quantum_Marten0302]

satanists are not much different from christians, muslims or other religious ppl. they still share the worst ideas same with most atheists