Deepdense

Deepdense

Member
Dec 30, 2025
85
Lol one wants to burn the rulebook. The other wants to use the rulebook against the people who pretend it came from a "God".

But it's all in a matter of opinion.
I meant more in a moral and logistic sense.
 
Whale_bones

Whale_bones

Mage
Feb 11, 2020
578
An atheist doesn't practice anything, and they don't worship anything. They are secular. Worshipping Satan (this is the premise of Satanism, even if he is merely a "metaphor") isn't Atheistic, since you're still subconsciously devoted to something.
To reiterate, Atheists do not worship anything, not even symbolically, and they do not follow any kind of framework. "Atheistic-Satanists" are inadvertently devout and promoting worship. They are NOT secular. Do you see atheists lighting candles in the name of Atazoth or Baphomet? Or creating intricate sigils for ritual use?

Think of it this way: there are atheists who proclaim their love and support of the Dallas Cowboys football team, they go to games at the same day and time every week, they use symbols, gestures, and repeated chants to signify their devotion, and they engage with a community of people who all do the same specific things. Does that mean they're not an atheist, because they're practicing something, they're subconsciously devoted to it, and many of these practices can also be found in religion? I'd say no.

Some modern forms of satanism, like those followed by TST, specifically use religion as a framework to point out the hypocrisy of religious structures. But that doesn't mean they have any added "beliefs" that are incompatible with atheism. Think about agnostic atheism; this is a similar concept, because atheism by itself is simply "a lack of belief in gods or deities" and neither agnosticism nor Satanism (the type of modern satanism we're talking about in this post, atleast, since there's many different forms) conflict with this.
 
E

Endlichkeit

Member
Feb 26, 2023
91
Christianity is not dead in law or policy. In the U.S. it's actively shaping abortion bans, trans healthcare restrictions, school curriculums, public funding, and "religious freedom" laws that conveniently only protect one religion. TST exists to say: if the state gives special treatment to religion, then all religions get that treatment. No exceptions.
As for "why not protest religions that want totalitarian societies," TST does. Constantly. Authoritarian religion isn't limited to one tradition, but in the U.S. the dominant threat is Christian nationalism. You don't punch abstract global villains when the boot on your neck is local and writing laws. You fight what has institutional power where you live.
And the "you don't need Satanism to be rebellious" point is technically true and practically irrelevant. You don't need a labor union to dislike exploitation either, but collective identity is how rights get defended in court. TST isn't a vibe. It's a legal structure. The label exists because labels are how the system recognizes standing, protections, and equal treatment.
Satan, in this context, isn't a being. It's a symbol of defiance against arbitrary authority, bodily autonomy, and individual conscience. Using that symbol is intentional. It forces hypocrisy into the open. When lawmakers say "religious freedom" and then panic the moment it applies to anyone else, the mask slips....
I agree that Christianity shaped laws and policies, but we're already in a post-christian era.
Its influence is just inertia. It will and is diminishing on its own, and is being replaced by far more restrictive religions.
So, I'd say, it's completely unnecessary to call yourself a Satanist if you consider to be one because of the reasons you described, unless you just want to provoke people, but that too doesn't work well: When I hear someone is a Satanist, I imagine angry norwegian teens burning churches in the 90s. So with that label you will never be treated seriously.
 
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A_Spartan_Dead

A_Spartan_Dead

Life's sick joke is us; death is the punchline.
Dec 17, 2025
88
I believe you when you say Satan doesn't exist, I've been trying to sell my soul for months now so I can get the tenancy of the public housing house I've been living in for 30 years (else I'll end up homeless), but nothing happened.
My poor boy cats paid the price with their lives, I had to euthanize them.
Australia is crazy as, don't move here is my opinion.
 
grantaire

grantaire

crowned prince of melodrama
Nov 3, 2025
8
I watched hail Satan? in my intimate partner violence class. it was quite interesting. sorry I didn't read thru all do this post and I'm gonna give my thoughts. the group seemed relatable and fun but once they started actually threatening or insinuating violence their members got let go. which is okay. but I don't think I guess what I'm interpreting this thread as had anything to do with atheism or Satanism. I think the belief from the "Church of Satan" can be the same as atheism. it's just anti religion and anti church/state. like. yeah. idk. love yall <3
 

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