All this code talk

[lost_soul83]

Look, I might be new to this site, but if we're supposed to have the ability to say whatever's on our minds, methods to commit suicide, etc. ( notice that I said "commit suicide," instead of ctb) then what's with people feeling the need to speak in code?? I just don't get it, just my opinion. But if you talk to me, I'm gonna mean what I say and say what I mean.

 

[therhydler]

I don't think it's the need to speak in code, it's just that writing "ctb" instead of commit suicide or SN instead of sodium nitrite is WAY faster. And the abbreviations take 5 mins to learn tops. It's just convenience ;)

 

[LostGirl]

Look, I might be new to this site, but if we're supposed to have the ability to say whatever's on our minds, methods to commit suicide, etc. ( notice that I said "commit suicide," instead of ctb) then what's with people feeling the need to speak in code?? I just don't get it, just my opinion. But if you talk to me, I'm gonna mean what I say and say what I mean.

You are free to use whatever term you like. I personally do not use" commit suicide" as the word "commit" implies something wrongful and/or illegal. eg commit fraud, commit perjury etc

 

[lost_soul83]

I don't think it's the need to speak in code, it's just that writing "ctb" instead of commit suicide or SN instead of sodium nitrite is WAY faster. And the abbreviations take 5 mins to learn tops. It's just convenience ;)

Thanks, I guess I kinda meant, what's the need for all the secrecy if we're supposed to be able to be open and honest with one another?

 

[therhydler]

You are free to use whatever term you like. I personally do not use" commit suicide" as the word "commit" implies something wrongful and/or illegal. eg commit fraud, commit perjury etc

Wow I never realised that! Damn

 

[lost_soul83]

You are free to use whatever term you like. I personally do not use" commit suicide" as the word "commit" implies something wrongful and/or illegal. eg commit fraud, commit perjury etc

I think that if using the word commit isn't personally offensive to someone, then they should be able to use it. I just don't see the need for all the secrecy, that's all.

 

[LostGirl]

I think that if using the word commit isn't personally offensive to someone, then they should be able to use it. I just don't see the need for all the secrecy, that's all.

i personally don't see it the use of acronyms like ctb as being secretive, I see it more as a jargon.

 

[lost_soul83]

I think my post is getting misconstrued. I don't feel the need for all this "jargon," because some of us feel out of the loop. Maybe we'd all like to know about the method you're choosing because we haven't chosen one of our own. I just think all the jargon keeps people from information they might find useful/helpful.

 

[therhydler]

For me catching the bus sounds much more pleasant than committing suicide. I'd much rather think that I'm just catching the bus than commiting suicide when I do it. It kind of puts on a different mindset to the whole thing, less serious and tragic. I personally like it.
And I still think it's much more for convenience than secrecy

 

[lost_soul83]

Wow I never realised that! Damn

Omg, what about using the word in a positive way?? Like, "I commit to helping my aging parents," or "I commit to doing an excellent job at work." The word commit just means that you're committed to doing something, like committing suicide!

 

[lost_soul83]

For me catching the bus sounds much more pleasant than committing suicide. I'd much rather think that I'm just catching the bus than commiting suicide when I do it. It kind of puts on a different mindset to the whole thing, less serious and tragic. I personalny like it.
And I still think it's much more for convenience than secrecy

Think what you will.....I give up!

 

[therhydler]

Omg, what about using the word in a positive way?? Like, "I commit to helping my aging parents," or "I commit to doing an excellent job at work." The word commit just means that you're committed to doing something, like committing suicide!

It's commiting suicide, not committing to suicide. It's clearly used negatively

 

[LostGirl]

I think my post is getting misconstrued. I don't feel the need for all this "jargon," because some of us feel out of the loop. Maybe we'd all like to know about the method you're choosing because we haven't chosen one of our own. I just think all the jargon keeps people from information they might find useful/helpful.

sorry if I have misconstrued your original post. You would find that with any community or profession , members will invariably develop jargons. Some will catch on whilst others not. there aren't that many jargons here and you can pick them up in less than 5 mins by asking fellow members or going to the resource thread. what are the things puzzling you now? I will try to help.

 

[lost_soul83]

It's commiting suicide, not committing to suicide. It's clearly used negatively

No, it means you're committing to killing yourself. But whatever, I give up.

 

[therhydler]

No, it means you're committing to killing yourself. But whatever, I give up.

Lol no it doesn't

 

[Titania]

As someone who is very new here, I personally don't mind the jargon. I was also confused on what it meant but it took a matter of seconds to understand what it means just by the content of people's posts. Just use what is comfortable to you to use and respect one another. It's not complicated to do.

 

[iHeartRockArt]

There's no "code talk" going on. And please let's keep this thread respectful. CTB, N, SN, NNM, etc are shorter versions, abbreviations. As far as referring to suicide as "catching the bus," most people prefer to state it that way because it sounds better.

Do you use OMG, LOL, WTF, SMH, etc? Same thing.

 

[lost_soul83]

Lol no it doesn't

You're gonna think what you want, regardless of what I say, so why put me down on my own thread?

 

[therhydler]

You're gonna think what you want, regardless of what I say, so why put me down on my own thread?

Sorry. I guess it's better to agree to disagree

 

[lost_soul83]

I'm gonna quit while I'm behind here. You all can say whatever you want, but so can I. Use whatever terms you want but don't "laugh" at me because I have a different opinion than you.

 

[therhydler]

I'm gonna quit while I'm behind here. You all can say whatever you want, but so can I. Use whatever terms you want but don't "laugh" at me because I have a different opinion than you.

I'm sorry, I didnt mean to make you feel laughed at

 

[JustAboutDone]

Someone has very kindly put a thread up explaining what abbreviations are for newcomers. There is no secrecy or secret code - it's just a way of making posts quicker and easier; remember English isn't a first language here for many on this forum.

It can be hard enough talking about emotive subjects in a foreign language - let alone trying to negotiate your way round a load of complicated chemical compounds

 

[iHeartRockArt]

I'm gonna quit while I'm behind here. You all can say whatever you want, but so can I. Use whatever terms you want but don't "laugh" at me because I have a different opinion than you.

You're not being laughed at at all. Everyone is just trying to explain that there is no "code talk" and this is a community where you very much have the ability to say what's on your mind.

 

[Janica333]

For me catching the bus sounds much more pleasant than committing suicide. I'd much rather think that I'm just catching the bus than commiting suicide when I do it. It kind of puts on a different mindset to the whole thing, less serious and tragic. I personally like it.
And I still think it's much more for convenience than secrecy

I think ctb is better way to say it. Because I have had nde I know it's just going home and live more fully than on earth with love, peace and serenity that's mostly missing in our earthly life. It's end to something that was meant to end anyways, our learning experience on earth. I believe that everything that happens is meant to happen.

 

[Anima]

I'm gonna quit while I'm behind here. You all can say whatever you want, but so can I. Use whatever terms you want but don't "laugh" at me because I have a different opinion than you.

Honestly, I don't think anyone here meant to offend you in any way. You asked a question, stated your point of view and people simply stated theirs. (:

 

[Janica333]

Words are just words but people, culture, religions, media and history overall have backed some words with so much negativity that they are not used for that reason.

For example. Negros mean just black people in different language. It was not originally more offensive to say negro man than black man. In countries with no slavery of black people the words black man and white man have always been equals and are neutral.
Some words meant positive things originally, 50 years later they are used for insult and swearing.
So of course the word suicide is backed with negativity. Also christianity have affected that even the only passages of suicide in Bible are positive ones (Samson, soldiers about to be catched by enemy etc.) So I think that people have ruined the word for good.

 

[MsM3talGamer]

There's nothing wrong with using euphemisms like "catch the bus" in place of saying "commit suicide". After all, there are loads of euphemisms related to death and dying. Lots of people say "My aunt passed / passed away" or even "fell asleep forever" instead of just "died".

Everyone's entitled to say what they want. This isn't a space where you can dictate to people how to express themselves. Also, it's a lot easier for me to just say I want to CTB, especially when I'm tired and can't be arsed to type too much.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

Code? There are all of four or five abbreviations some people use. Nobody is trying to upset you or be secretive OP, but you are coming off as needlessly defensive. Many online communities develop their own kind of shorthand. I'm not sure why it would irk you so much.

 

[Janica333]

There's nothing wrong with using euphemisms like "catch the bus" in place of saying "commit suicide". After all, there are loads of euphemisms related to death and dying. Lots of people say "My aunt passed / passed away" or even "fell asleep forever" instead of just "died".

Everyone's entitled to say what they want. This isn't a space where you can dictate to people how to express themselves. Also, it's a lot easier for me to just say I want to CTB, especially when I'm tired and can't be arsed to type too much.

And people who don't believe that souls die (huge majority of all people), saying they died is just wrong.

 

[Ella Disenchanted]

Nobody is going to laugh at someone for using a different term. Ctb has been commonly used for a very long time to refer to suicide. I'm not sure why someone referring to it in that term would make you feel excluded. We're here because we want to die. Who cares what somebody else calls it?