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A states clearly in his email that the chances are 90% that the N will get to you and that there are no money refunds. Not satisfied with these statistics? Then don't order. Everyone who orders is taking a risk at their own peril, I thought people knew that? We can complain all we want about A but the warning comes down to this: there is NO guarantee that you will receive the N. And this is nothing new...
Why is this thread stickied?
 
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Chinaski

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...and it's a shame it is stickied like it's some verified story any more legit than any other.

Would like this post twice tbh, particularly this bit.
 
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I'm glad I read this. I was thinking of getting N from A, but now I think I'll probably go with another method. Though I guess traveling to Mexico wouldn't be off the table, but still. With the current political climate as it is now, it would probably be a good idea to wait until things die down.
 
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Smilla

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Alright guys this thread is turning into a big pointless derailed argument. Everyone please be respectful so that I don't have to close it. You all can have a discussion, and keep it civil. Thank you.

Why was this thread made a sticky?

There is zero, except anectodal evidence, for the OPs post.

How is this helping anyone?
 
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creationisdeath

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There is zero, except anectodal evidence, for the OPs post.
Same goes for everyone saying they received it. I personally have had my own experience and saw proof of others', so it's not hard for me to believe OP.

How is this helping anyone?

It does help by showing that it's not remotely as sure as most people make it out to be (many of whom never even dealt with it themselves) and that might keep desperate people from throwing away their rent money and increasing their suffering even further.
 
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Same goes for everyone saying they received it. I personally have had my own experience and saw proof of others', so it's not hard for me to believe OP.



It does help by showing that it's not remotely as sure as most people make it out to be (many of whom never even dealt with it themselves) and that might keep desperate people from throwing away their rent money and increasing their suffering even further.


Whatever. This is an unnecessary sticky-it's fear mongering. And the OP post is nonsensical
 
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Whatever. This is an unnecessary sticky-it's fear mongering. And the OP post is nonsensical
What exactly is nonsensical?
 
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creationisdeath

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Whatever. This is an unnecessary sticky-it's fear mongering. And the OP post is nonsensical

A success rate of below 50% and a dealer that is provably a liar warrants "fear mongering".

There are lots of desperate people here. See the threads asking straight for the mail because they don't even have the energy left to dig through all the threads?

Those people throw their last money away hoping to be redeemed. Better to instead guide them to other methods, like you. Overpriced yes, but at least a safe deal. (that tank)

You could say "fuck those who don't read" but that is cruel. I have my own days/weeks/months where that's not even possible. Or anything else for that matter.

People are used to 99% success rates even in illegal deals. Buying from the "deepweb" is trivial and if you go for reputable vendors, 99% guaranteed.

OP didn't say "don't order" either. It's the only vendor that delivers sometimes. But it's far from the reputable source that it's always described as.

A even has a standard copy paste setup for his selective-scamming. When it doesn't arrive (and he has a smart enough day not to create logical inconsistencies and lies) he has that "oh but I'm such a nice guy I will send it again for a lower price" scheme.

And it makes sense for him. Think about it:
- He is the only vendor currently
- People that buy N are extremely desperate and in a state of suffering
- He instantly increases his profit x2 or x3. Any regular CEO would literally kill for that.

I found "A" first many years ago - and he was much more reliable. (And cheaper but that's not the point.) This seems more like an unscrupulous business tactic now.

That was when there were actually reputable Chinese vendors. And when you could easily buy it in Mexico and skip all the shady middle men to begin with. Now Mexico got hard/impossible/expensive and China stopped altogether.. Easy game.
 
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A success rate of below 50% and a dealer that is provably a liar warrants "fear mongering".

There are lots of desperate people here. See the threads asking straight for the mail because they don't even have the energy left to dig through all the threads?

Those people throw their last money away hoping to be redeemed. Better to instead guide them to other methods, like you. Overpriced yes, but at least a safe deal. (that tank)

You could say "fuck those who don't read" but that is cruel. I have my own days/weeks/months where that's not even possible. Or anything else for that matter.

People are used to 99% success rates even in illegal deals. Buying from the "deepweb" is trivial and if you go for reputable vendors, 99% guaranteed.

OP didn't say "don't order" either. It's the only vendor that delivers sometimes. But it's far from the reputable source that it's always described as.

A even has a standard copy paste setup for his selective-scamming. When it doesn't arrive (and he has a smart enough day not to create logical inconsistencies and lies) he has that "oh but I'm such a nice guy I will send it again for a lower price" scheme.

And it makes sense for him. Think about it:
- He is the only vendor currently
- People that buy N are extremely desperate and in a state of suffering
- He instantly increases his profit x2 or x3. Any regular CEO would literally kill for that.

I found "A" first many years ago - and he was much more reliable. (And cheaper but that's not the point.) This seems more like an unscrupulous business tactic now.

That was when there were actually reputable Chinese vendors. And when you could easily buy it in Mexico and skip all the shady middle men to begin with. Now Mexico got hard/impossible/expensive and China stopped altogether.. Easy game.


Many years ago, huh?
 
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creationisdeath

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Many years ago, huh?
Yes, and it gave me great relief to know I had an easy way out. That didn't work out all too well obviously or I wouldn't be here now.

Even before that there was a public suicide buddy website haha but that got shut down by the government.
 
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You just made up the 50% statistic to suit your anger and severe grudge. OP was ranting and wanting to get some validation. You are just inflaming things, exaggerating and fear mongering in some frenzy. This should be unpinned so it's not continuing to serve as a panic point.

That's my point. This should not be pinned, it's creating unnecessary panic.

There is zero evidence for OPs remarks except anecdotal, and probable bs.

I just don't see the point of pinning a thread like this.

Sure, you could get scammed, intercepted, etc but that's the nature of the deal when ordering a class a substance from a foreign country.

Sad, but that's reality. But A is not a "scammer" as the OP would have you believe.
 
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Yes, and it gave me great relief to know I had an easy way out. That didn't work out all too well obviously or I wouldn't be here now.

Even before that there was a public suicide buddy website haha but that got shut down by the government.

So what happened to your N? Did you order? Receive it?
 
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A success rate of below 50% and a dealer that is provably a liar warrants "fear mongering".

There are lots of desperate people here. See the threads asking straight for the mail because they don't even have the energy left to dig through all the threads?

Those people throw their last money away hoping to be redeemed. Better to instead guide them to other methods, like you. Overpriced yes, but at least a safe deal. (that tank)

You could say "fuck those who don't read" but that is cruel. I have my own days/weeks/months where that's not even possible. Or anything else for that matter.

People are used to 99% success rates even in illegal deals. Buying from the "deepweb" is trivial and if you go for reputable vendors, 99% guaranteed.

OP didn't say "don't order" either. It's the only vendor that delivers sometimes. But it's far from the reputable source that it's always described as.

A even has a standard copy paste setup for his selective-scamming. When it doesn't arrive (and he has a smart enough day not to create logical inconsistencies and lies) he has that "oh but I'm such a nice guy I will send it again for a lower price" scheme.

And it makes sense for him. Think about it:
- He is the only vendor currently
- People that buy N are extremely desperate and in a state of suffering
- He instantly increases his profit x2 or x3. Any regular CEO would literally kill for that.

I found "A" first many years ago - and he was much more reliable. (And cheaper but that's not the point.) This seems more like an unscrupulous business tactic now.

That was when there were actually reputable Chinese vendors. And when you could easily buy it in Mexico and skip all the shady middle men to begin with. Now Mexico got hard/impossible/expensive and China stopped altogether.. Easy game.

If they have the energy to find this site they have the energy to "dig through threads". Give me a big break, please.

Stop it with the fear mongering.


Edit: I don't believe a word you say.
 
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@Smilla it's been unpinned. Best to not spit more gas on it I guess. Damage is done and people will believe what they like as usual.

Thanks. I'm just aghast that it was pinned in the first place—ridiculous.
 
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creationisdeath

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If they have the energy to find this site they have the energy to "dig through threads". Give me a big break, please.

Stop it with the fear mongering.


Edit: I don't believe a word you say.
This is funny again - I can prove everything.
I even offered you the account details to one of my throwaways I used to talk to A to. You didn't want it.

People defending A are either paid shills or trying to keep up their own illusion.

Also a little more respect for the affected please. Just because you have the energy doesn't mean others do. There are literally hundreds of pages you would have to read to get a picture of what's currently going on. Not everyone is constantly on the internet.
 
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This is funny again - I can prove everything.
I even offered you the account details to one of my throwaways I used to talk to A to. You didn't want it.

People defending A are either paid shills or trying to keep up their own illusion.

Also a little more respect for the affected please. Just because you have the energy doesn't mean others do. There are literally hundreds of pages you would have to read to get a picture of what's currently going on. Not everyone is constantly on the internet.

Yes I am a paid shrill. For sure.
 
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